Scary note on gate :(

Sadly they will just nick the energiser based on my experience!

The H&H people are good, but costly £00s.

The H&H article does lay out the options tho.

Or you could herd the horses out and onto some council land since public authorities are so poor at tackling these issues. It shouldnt be for one landowner to be dumped with the consequences of mad EU and government policy which results in a self defined group being able to consistently flout the law, and be left with no support from anyone.
 
they value their ponies quite a bit so go out with permenant hair dye & dye them why be piebald when they could be rainbow ponies :) they shifted the sexy cob stallion off our grazing sharpish once he turned from a bay skewbald to a bay & bright barbie pink & bright electric blue skewbald.
 
Why can't said farmer just go and talk to local people, ask them if they are their cattle and have a chat, be reasonable and ask if they could tell the owner that he should either contribute to the grazing or move them.

I am incredible protective of my animals, so I would also point out to them if any of my animals where hurt even a little bit my revenge may not be rational!
 
You can purchase at B&Q and other places like it, "fake" CCTV cameras. They're dummies basically, but look as near to the real thing as dammit - and I'd be inclined to buy a few of them and put them up just like you would if they were real ones.

You can also get notices which say "CCTV - images may be recorded for security purposes" - and I'd put one or two of these up around.

Just an idea.
 
connieconvert said:
The firm who deal with this type of situation are at www.grcgroup.co.uk
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My Dad's company used a firm like this years ago when gypsies camped out on their company's car park one night. They trashed the place, broke into the factory and the Police claimed they couldn't act. So, company paid the bailiffs to deal with them. IIRC it was v expensive but worth it because of the amount of damage they were causing. I think they were served with papers first to tell them to leave, when they didn't the bailiffs towed their cars and caravans off site, and dumped them on the road. Got a feeling the Police then got involved because none of the cars were insured or taxed (surprise surprise).

Anyway, it worked and they never came back!!
 
Do what my old yard owner did when they moved on to his land. Remove the cows and start to dig an 8 foot trench around the field. They won't be able to remove their precious horses once the dig is complete. My yard owners lot moved out sharpish! Never to be seen again.

ETA Actually scrap that, think it only worked as there were caravans there also. They could prob still get the horses out and you'd be left with a bug*erd field.
 
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Actually on personal recommendation go for a Jersey bull,they`re the little guys that have a handler either side of them in cattle parades. Quick,hot tempered and just plain mean really..speaking from personal knowledge!:rolleyes:
 
I'd actually go for a Dexter bull, they are all temperamental buggers!
My friend breeds and shows them - cue FB friends look at my photos and see pics of me showing them. I discovered that cows are very good at rearing, bucking, and leaping inthe air off all fours from a stand still!
 
I know of a farmer who had a load of caravans turn up in one of his fields one morning.
If they can drive in unchallenged,by not breaing and enteing but just by undoing the gate,there's not alot anyone can do quickly to get them shifted and they know it. If they break their way in which would be classed as breaking and entering then the police can do them for it, (if you are lucky!)
So, as they would not leave his propertydespite polite requests to do so he got a load of his farm hands, plant machinery and tractors etc and put a fence in place round their camp with no gate. They couldn't get in or out without breaking the fence (breaking and entering) they knew they could be prosecuted so agreed to move right away, which they did, never to be seen again.
The law doesn't seem to help landowners so they helped themselves.
 
The farm we have our horses did this about 5 years ago. Same situ - the travellers drove in and set up camp... they were asked to leave but refused. The next morning all the large Plant machinery and harvester etc were put in front of the exits at about 5am, they were told that at 10am they would move the machinery for half an hour, after that the machinery would be put back across the gates until the autumn when the harvester etc would next be needed. Again come 10am the Travellers quitely left. The time-limit also gave all the other farmers in the area time to make sure their gates where locked and land protected!!
 
Helbert said:
The farm we have our horses did this about 5 years ago. Same situ - the travellers drove in and set up camp... they were asked to leave but refused. The next morning all the large Plant machinery and harvester etc were put in front of the exits at about 5am, they were told that at 10am they would move the machinery for half an hour, after that the machinery would be put back across the gates until the autumn when the harvester etc would next be needed. Again come 10am the Travellers quitely left. The time-limit also gave all the other farmers in the area time to make sure their gates where locked and land protected!!
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Yes, brilliant idea, fight fire with fire AS NO ONE ELSE HELPS YOU!
oZ
 
Some of these solutions are very good - I am taking note just in case I or anyone i know becomes a victim to those peopl who appear to be 'above the law' in the future. Spray painting the ponies bright colours does sound pretty funny! Lol
 
canteron said:
Why can't said farmer just go and talk to local people, ask them if they are their cattle and have a chat, be reasonable and ask if they could tell the owner that he should either contribute to the grazing or move them.
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The cattle are supposed to be there, its the horses that are the problem. Unfortuantely the sort of people who leave threatening notes on field gates are rarely the sort of people with whom one could have a "reasonable chat".
 
Some have arrived in Titchfield but looks like they're on a council playing field so maybe a different ball game if its local authority land. Not sure the council would have the balls to get a load of farmers in with heavy plant no matter how fantastic an idea.
 
I lived next to members of a well known travelling family once when I was doing up a property. The only thing they understood was treating like with like, while remaining reasonably civil but with an underlying threat. We got on very well after we had that established. I don't think pussy footing around does any good. They are pushing their luck to expect something for nothing like this, and in such great numbers of horses. I'd either take them out and put them in a small field with sparse grazing and lock the other field, or remove them to some distance away and leaving a note saying similar.
 
I like the idea of a nice savage bull. Also, might be worth sectioning the ponies off in the corner of the field with electric fencing to minimise the damage they are doing. It's outrageous. There are so many attempts now to state how lovely travellers are, and they have just got a bad rep, but look at how many people have first hand experience of their lack of decency! They stole a bunch of stuff from my Dad a couple of years ago, old machinery etc. They came into the yard asked for a "quote", a few hours later the stuff was gone. I hope it brings them nothing but misery :mad:
 
I wouldnt leave any plant or machinery in any gateways with these characters, it'll either disappear and be off across the sea or their kids will get handy with a petrol can and matches which seems to be a usual hobby.

And CCTV cameras? forget it, they nicked the one our council put up and openly used it on the gypsy site to 'protect' the stallion's stable from other travellers :-O

If digging any ditched etc to impede them, advisable to get police back up or at least notify them.
 
Pale Rider said:
Travellers are very vulnerable, they just get in with the intimidation first.
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vulnerable MY ARSE ,have you ever had a confrontation with a traveller,we had one come to look our wagon he bought his wife and kids the brat kicked my dog and i said something,he told my husband i needed a backhander and to be put in my place i told him to go forth and multiply :D which needless to say didntgo down to well,there is nothing vulnerable about these people my husband is lucky to still have his legs
 
lachlanandmarcus said:
I wouldnt leave any plant or machinery in any gateways with these characters, it'll either disappear and be off across the sea or their kids will get handy with a petrol can and matches which seems to be a usual hobby.

And CCTV cameras? forget it, they nicked the one our council put up and openly used it on the gypsy site to 'protect' the stallion's stable from other travellers :-O

If digging any ditched etc to impede them, advisable to get police back up or at least notify them.
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lol, you have a point there!
Oz
 

Really- you've got to have your tongue wedge firmly in your cheek!!!! :eek:

Now i know a few travellers to speak to as they came to my school- and to speak to these few are nice enough.

But on the whole they really are ******ers- and the know it and they LOVE it!

Luckily the ones close to us are settled on permanent sites so have their own grazing etc but we do get loads of nicked kit. They all drive around in Range Rover sports from 'dealing scrap' and I know the saying 'where theres much there's brass but REALLY??!!

Well i wouldn't like to write on here what my Dad would do if that happened on his land as it may get used in evidence against him.
 
No wonder these tinkers get the better of people, they are vulnerable, caravans fall apart dead easy, and if they want to make a mess my slurry tanker can help. They never hang around our area for long. An eye for an eye, is the only way to deal with them.
 
I would recommend Shergroup Security (Equine Enforcement Division). Contact Tracy Wright on 0845 8909 200 and she will be only to pleased to serve a Section 106 and also to then deal with any remaining un-authorised horses left on your land.
 
Pale Rider said:
No wonder these tinkers get the better of people, they are vulnerable, caravans fall apart dead easy, and if they want to make a mess my slurry tanker can help. They never hang around our area for long. An eye for an eye, is the only way to deal with them.
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What ARE you talking about now?
 
Persephone said:
What ARE you talking about now?
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I think they mean to treat like with like. So to get rid of the travellers give them a taste of their own medicine. Dump his slurry all over their pitches and trash their flimsy caravans.

Rough em up, treat em bad and send em on their way ? Bullying and intimidation is the only language they know so give it straight back to them ??

I think this is whats meant.
 
Aoibhin said:
they value their ponies quite a bit so go out with permenant hair dye & dye them why be piebald when they could be rainbow ponies :) they shifted the sexy cob stallion off our grazing sharpish once he turned from a bay skewbald to a bay & bright barbie pink & bright electric blue skewbald.
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*Snorts tea over laptop*

OP if you do this please please take pictures!!!! :D
 
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