Scottish sports horse finals

odd1 said:
it is a new competition like any new competitions there will be the odd problem/query but thats why SSH are asking to contact THEM not put it on an open forum - i have sent off my views on an email to them, why cant others do the same:confused:
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Well put!
 
Thats very true jeanette10 well said.
odd1 thats my point exactly regarding money...it cost a fair penny to have your horse overstamped/registered/membership and this has to be paid to SSH if you want to compete.
As someone sitting here in Scotland with 2 mares to be overstamped and a stallion not to mention any future foals....and really looking forward to competing in these classes next year....I would like to see things done better and for SSH or the representative who is posting the links and enjoying the publicity...answer and take on board whatever it is that is being put to them..not just the good...to me that then shows that they are listening/taking heed and are a welcoming body of people who are genuine in representing Scotlands' breeders.
I certainyl do not want to be a member of any socitey which is not prepared to listen to questions/complaints etc...it doesnt matter that its on a public forum..in fact I believe that a good thing if SSH can be seen in public to take on board any matters raised surely that is good publicity?
Of course if they choose to become annoyed and pointedly ignore what they deem as bad ... thne a show of no faith from me.
 
I really cant understand why not on an open forum..the questions/answers would be made public anyway would they not?
As for the statement made that SSH wouldn't mind if the disagreeable entrants at this particlar show didnt come back next year...that is ludicrous!
 
Dusty said:
Thats very true jeanette10 well said.
odd1 thats my point exactly regarding money...it cost a fair penny to have your horse overstamped/registered/membership and this has to be paid to SSH if you want to compete.
As someone sitting here in Scotland with 2 mares to be overstamped and a stallion not to mention any future foals....and really looking forward to competing in these classes next year....I would like to see things done better and for SSH or the representative who is posting the links and enjoying the publicity...answer and take on board whatever it is that is being put to them..not just the good...to me that then shows that they are listening/taking heed and are a welcoming body of people who are genuine in representing Scotlands' breeders.
I certainyl do not want to be a member of any socitey which is not prepared to listen to questions/complaints etc...it doesnt matter that its on a public forum..in fact I believe that a good thing if SSH can be seen in public to take on board any matters raised surely that is good publicity?
Of course if they choose to become annoyed and pointedly ignore what they deem as bad ... thne a show of no faith from me.
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Dusty, as you can see the Chairperson of this breed society has posted several times on this thread and has NEVER been gracious enough to reply to any of the negative comments, only the handful of positive ones. So one has to ask themselves, if this is who is sitting at the top of the tree and supposed to be leading a Studbook, then what does that say for the Studbook in question?

To only reply to the positive comments is NOT a person who can be classed as a leader. A leader is a person who can answer ALL questions put to them, and can reply in a manner that is not derogatory and condescending to others, and where their word actually means something.
 
jeanette10 thats my thoughts exactly.

Flyingbuck you have chosen to let the users on this forum know that you are chairperson of SSH and so you are representing them.
Perhaps you are taking things personally? I do hope not as none of it is intended as such but as I said above you have chosen to go public regarding your position and so any comments etc from you will reflect on SSH in general.
I think it a great pity that you refuse to respond openly as this would suggest much more honesty and real interest in all us Scottish breeders....no matter if we are the agreeable sort or not!
 
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bettysmum said:
any in south west next year will tyr and come
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Bettysmum - the SSH Qualifiers were a bit top heavy geographically this season - a lot in Aberdeenshire - we hope to have more qualifiers in general next season, with a more even distribution throughout Scotland.

Already, we have had enquiries from venues we had not used last year who are keen to support the SSH - I think the farthest south this season gone was the qualifier at Stewarton and Dunlop - but there may well be more in the south of Scotland.

If you have any show in particular that you have in mind, please email Aileen with details - thanks ;)

asingleton@fsmail.net
 
I read this thread with interest and was not going to participate; clearly something went awry at the finals; maybe just misinformation or a lack of clarity on the day; maybe more than that. Equally clearly it was badly handled on the day. However it did seem a shame to spoil the OPs "pleasure" post by concentrating on the negatives on this particular thread.

However, what stands out for me on this thread and what prompts me to comment, is the sense of arrogance from an SSH official; the way in which CLIENTS and SUPPORTERS, the lifeblood of this small society are virtually told to be quiet and if they don't like it, then don't bother to come back next year. It was left to another poster (I forget the name but the person with the nice coloured horse as their picture) to do Flyingbuck's job for him, answer the complaint firmly but with good grace and defuse the negative comments.

Flyingbuck now refuses to respond to any negative comments but replies with what comes across to me, anyway, as an almost oily pleasantness towards anyone who comments positively. The result is ludicrous; a sort of "talk to the butt; the ears aren't listening" effect. This is not good customer relations.

I must confess that I was also disappointed with Flyingbuck's less than constructive response on the SSH stallion thread. I therefore have to agree with Dusty and Jeanette.

I find it a real pity (and a damaging disincentive) that the Chairman who has CHOSEN TO APPEAR AS SUCH on a public forum has proven to present such a negative public profile. Compare this to the grace under fire of, say, Lynne Crowden. Perhaps Flyingbuck could take a leaf or two out of Woodlander's book!
 
Totally agree jamesmead and deeply saddened to see how once again Flyingbuck chooses to respond.
I have copied this whole thread and intend to save it, I also intend to bring this before all the SSH committee members and would expect some positive feedback from them at least.
If Flyingbuck did not want to be asked to answer questions he/she doesnt like then why make it public that you are chairperson and why answer the other stuff?
The above comment smacks of bad customer relations and definately reflects badly on SSH in general...why on earth is someone like this chairperson?
Yes perhaps now a little personal FB but for goodness sake leave your ego in your pocket and set to promoting SSH in a good light!!

I do know a few of the committee members and they are nothing like this, in fact they would be more than happy to have answered any questions from disgruntled or not, members/non members.
 
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I also meant to add to my earlier post - if you are a show secretary and wish your show to be considered for SSH 2011 Qualifiers, please also email Aileen asap.

I realise a number of you have already done so, and you will receive a response in the very near future.

Although there were 9 qualifying shows last year, the SSH does hope to increase that number for 2011 - thank you. :)
 
Qualifiers should be sought after not given out as confetti, numbers dont always go with quality, give your qualifiers to shows with credability first and foremost , spread these evenly about scotland, give something special to the royal highland (high profile) but restrict your number of qualifiers..
 
And once again, 1st Prize goes to Flyingbuck for his ingenious replies! From what I can glean from this, he does not give a “flyingbuck” about anyone’s opinion barring his own. To continually ignore the comments from current and potential breeders, and to continually publicise the event for next year is nothing more than a laugh. Talk about complete blinkered arrogance!

I agree tweedette with what you are saying, but this must be the SSH’s only way of guaranteeing any kind of numbers to qualify for the finals. Their insurance is in having as much qualifiers as possible to make it look like it is very popular, when perhaps only a handful of people enter at each show. Genius!

You know I think the concept is a good idea, but for it to be led by such a pompous person means it will never lead to success.

Would be interesting to know just how many entered each of the qualifiers in 2010, but I doubt very much you would be given that kind of information.
 
jeanette10 said:
And once again, 1st Prize goes to Flyingbuck for his ingenious replies! From what I can glean from this, he does not give a “flyingbuck” about anyone’s opinion barring his own. To continually ignore the comments from current and potential breeders, and to continually publicise the event for next year is nothing more than a laugh. Talk about complete blinkered arrogance!

I agree tweedette with what you are saying, but this must be the SSH’s only way of guaranteeing any kind of numbers to qualify for the finals. Their insurance is in having as much qualifiers as possible to make it look like it is very popular, when perhaps only a handful of people enter at each show. Genius!

You know I think the concept is a good idea, but for it to be led by such a pompous person means it will never lead to success.

Would be interesting to know just how many entered each of the qualifiers in 2010, but I doubt very much you would be given that kind of information.
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Ive got a catalogue if you dont get the answer you like, it lists the finals entrants at the finals night.
 
What a shame the thread has been hijacked. From what Ive read no one was told to shut up just take it off line via email directly. If some of you wanted to get into a public debate did it not occure to you to make another thread on the subject.

Congrats to the poster you deserve to still feel chuffed with your achievement.
 
the results are now on the SSH website.

just a same it only lists the results and no show report has been given.

i would have thought that the SSH would have wanted to showcase the finals on the website :confused:
 
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