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Please can someone tell me what this is.

I have a rc type horse and someone has said enter - we are not hugely experienced however he has won every time out local level and qualified for a couple of things.

Are we aiming abouve our station or should we go for the fun of it and learn from the experiende?
 
I IMHO wouldnt go! The one I went to was a shambles I aswell as a friend who went to Towerlands have written letters in to H&H about it
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I IMHO wouldnt go! The one I went to was a shambles I aswell as a friend who went to Towerlands have written letters in to H&H about it
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What does IMHO mean?
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What does search for a star entail? Why were you not impressed?
 
Personally i would aim for the trailblazers ones.

Search for a star is a bit of a con and you do end up with affiliated horses going due to the nature of the competition and where the final is.
 
We went to osbaldeston - very expensive, and lots of produced horses.

I don't think we would go again, its a shame really as the idea behind it is a great one.
 
I did the hunter class, the first time I was pulled in first before the ridden show and trot up. My horse behaved and went better than the rest in the class but was wearing pads as the ground had been so hard, i got knocked down to 3rd even though he was perfect. The winner and 2nd place people knew the judge.
Then I went again 4 weeks later minus the pads. It was the same judges and this time I was pulled in 4th and remained there but again he was the best there, I spoke to the judges afterwards and asked why and they simply said that they remembered him from last time and he was wearing pads!!
After the class I heard the winner say to the judge' you always said he would get to HOYS' so she def knew the judge this time too!
When I did it you weren't allowed to be a proffesional horse person to do it, ie- not allowed to work with horses, these days that rule has been done away with so you get produced show horses in the class.
 
Sorry Silver Florin your hijakking!!!!

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IMHO= In My Humble Opinion

Search for a star is a showing series sponsored by SEIB final is at HOYS.

Trailblazers is an unaffiliated competiton series, they run sj dressgae and showing classes with a national final.
 
It must have changed lots since I did it 2004 I think). back then it was a fantastic chance to go to HOYS. I also did the RC horse and was 5th in the final on a very ordinary, but extremely polite horse. No-one remotely resembling a professional at any of the qualifiers I've done....
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Sorry Silver Florin your hijakking!!!!

But.........
IMHO= In My Humble Opinion

Search for a star is a showing series sponsored by SEIB final is at HOYS.

Trailblazers is an unaffiliated competiton series, they run sj dressgae and showing classes with a national final.

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Hijacking? oops sorry i did not realise.
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I just did not understand what was being talked about.
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I would like to go to the qualifier at Addington. My horse is sound but has raised bar shoes on his hinds - do youthink we will get marked down at this level - its not been a problem at local level.

So is it for amateurs - we are nowhere near prof. level - but do seem to be doing well this year - is it a huge jump from rc level?
 
i know some of those winners and i can tell you they did not know the judges. the comments may well have been because they did more then one SFAS competition (eg osbaldeston and towerlands) and have made the changes suggested between the 2 competitions. The horses are not produced as it is against the rules and non of the riders on those horses will have ridden at HOYS since before 1997.

I wouldnt look twice at trailblazers, far more expensive then actualy affiliating.
I worked it out that the trailblaizers final would cost me over £300 for 2 classes and that does not include diesel or the money for entering the 1st and 2nd round. I can join the BSHA, Chase a few qualifiers round the country if i got lucky qualify and enter HOYS for less then doing trailblazers.
 
I'd definately do SFAS!!! What an amazing experience going to HOYS!!

I entered last year and got pulled in 2nd but put down to 3rd as my horse wasn't forward going enough! However the judges loved him and told me to come back this year once he's grown up a bit so thats what I'm doing!

Go for it!
 
"The horses are not produced as it is against the rules and non of the riders on those horses will have ridden at HOYS since before 1997"

If you start looking into results of horses and who owns and produces them it soon comes to light that many of the owners have other horses produced and will take their SFAS horse 'for a few lessons' before hand. Also horses often change hands with a view to competing SFAS in order to bypass this rule.
 
Re Bar shoes- you will almost def be marked down for them as it shows ( even theres not) a sign of unsoundess.
 
i know of 2 people who have had thier SFAS qualifications removed due to having had the pony produced/keeping thier horse on a proffesionals yard or a mistake reenterig. Also your not supposed to have a proffesional ride your horse in the ring at anytime in that year.

Can you actualy proove your theory? proove that the horses have been produced and still managed to keep thier qualification? occasional lessons does not count as anyone can get them. give me one actual name of who has done it?

If you are so sure they have been produced then put your money where your mouth is and put a complaint in, it will be investigated by a 3rd party and if you are right you get your money back

as i said i know several of those owner mainly through anouther forum and all of them were at the time completely home produced, they may not have been after the final at HOYs but they were before hand.
 
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Re Bar shoes- you will almost def be marked down for them as it shows ( even theres not) a sign of unsoundess.

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is this the case for all shows? Bruce has raised heels and wins classes
 
my boy did SFAS aged 13- We only have a field for schooling, no instructor or producer. I bought him as a foal, promptly got grass sickness, didnt break him until he was 6 as he was so weedy- broke him myself- still have the marks to prove it spent 2 years trying to get the sod to travel and finally got to our first show aged 10! He got really hysterical when everyone started clapping but was otherwise fab
He will always be my horse of a lifetime and will be with me forever even if now aged 16 he has a dodgy check ligament & arthritis
 
Agree totally with ConnieGirl - and as far as I am aware, you don't even need to put money down if you want to make a complaint.

Everyone I know who has done SFAS and got through to HOYS has had a great time, and they were ALL amateurs, with home produced horses. However, they DID take the time to make themselves and their horses look as professional as possible.
 
wish i had something to do SFAS with. unfortunately no M&M's so will have to make do with supporting a friend next year when she tries on her riding horse (or maybe hack we havent decided yet).

Ive got anouther friend who regularly gets accused of having her ponies produced (particularly when she does home produced classes) i know for a fact that my friend has her horses at home, does all the work herself, has not got a school so does all her schooling on the roads, she has to beg borrow or steal a groom for when they strip the horse at the bigger shows (normaly me or my mum or my sister if we are around). She does everything to an extremely high standard and it shows, but it does not mean she is produced.
 
It's the entry fee which puts me off - £30 odd to do the working hunter (which is what I'd do), and no hope of qualifying as I only have a single flap jump saddle and if you have a pole that's that. I'd do it for a bit of fun, but not at £30 - got to have a serious chance of qualifying for that money considering the cost of diesel at the moment IMO.
 
Spotted Cat it is exactly the same for any other HOYS qualifier in the workers, normaly the opens cost around £30 or sometimes more.

Have you looked at the cost of the trail blaizers in comparison!! SFAS is actualy extremely cheap compaired to trailblaizers.
 
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Spotted Cat it is exactly the same for any other HOYS qualifier in the workers, normaly the opens cost around £30 or sometimes more.

Have you looked at the cost of the trail blaizers in comparison!! SFAS is actualy extremely cheap compaired to trailblaizers.

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I wouldn't do trailblazers - no point as I am reg BSJA and would not travel to the final for dressage even if I did qualify which is unlikely.

You have made my point exactly - normal HOYS qualifiers are £30 a class, the aim of SFAS is to get people who wouldn't normally show (like me) to give it a go, however I am put off by the cost because showing is not my main equine activity and it would cost me too much (including the diesel) to do SFAS for me to feel it is worth it. I have no other issues with the series, I'm not trying to compare them with other series (do trailblazers do showing?), I'm just saying that as someone who normally does something else, I am put off trying showing through the SFAS route because of the cost. For me to spend that much, I'd have to think I had a decent chance at qualifying, which I don;t think I do because for one thing I don't have a WH saddle and I can't see many ride judges being chuffed at the sight of my single flap jump saddle!
 
Trailblazers does showing as well as dressage and show jumping. But there are less rules and you are more likely to see pros at the trailblazers final than you are at SFAS.
 
well I never knew that! Had no idea Trailblazers did showing, never even seen it advertised!

For me the draw of SFAS is the chance to ride at HOYS, the being put off bit is the price per class - that's it, no agenda. I reckon he'd do ok in workers, but haven't the inclination, time or energy to show properly. If it was £15 per class I'd give it a go for sure. I guess I can justify losing £15 as I do that every time I do a SJ round, but at least then I am practicing for eventing!!
 
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