Settle a argument for me please

No way.

As others have said a thermatex or fleece to dry then change to stable rug.

Leaving him wet under a stable rug you are likely to cause a) make him very uncomfortable (best) b) give him a chill (not the worse) c) pneumonia if you are very unlucky. IMHO.

Leaving him outdoors in a wet outdoors rug cannot be compared - only the outer of the outdoors rug should be wet not the inside where it connects with your horse.

If you haven't got time to dry him properly don't shower him off.
 
Well how long does your horse take to dry out the stable rug? Does the stable rug dry out?
Tbh if you don't want to put on a fleece/thermatex or similar then swap to a stable rug when dry, you're better off putting on a breathable turnout imo.
 
Thanks spottyf

Yeah it's not something done all the time as only when been worked really hard do they require washed as all are clipped. I guess I did it because I seen it done to a whole yard of SJ-ers.

Gonna look into that bucas rug sone one spoke off, as would not like to think my fella is uncomfortable , only washing him to make him feel more comfortable not the opposite.
 
I would think if your horse stays wet under his stable rug all night regularly you's pretty quickly get rain scald (or something equivalent) as their skin wouldn't cope well with being wet and warm with no air flow. A rugless horse getting rained on everyday won't have the same issue as the long hair helps the rain run off and the skin itself doesn't get wet.
That would be my worry
 
I actually find sweat on a clipped horses drys quicker than when you wash off. then a good groom after theyve dried, i include hot clothing too when i groom.
I think washing off is fine but if hes taking an hour to dry i would say he needs reclipping. My fully clipped horse take 20 mins to dry if they are washed off thats with 2 fleeces on.
I think washing off is fine in the winter provided there not to hairy otherwise they just take to long to dry and end up getting cold.
 
Yeah guess just use shower as its there, will just sponge off the damp areas from now on if I don't have time to dry him off completely with a fleece rug

Ahh ok Ffwinnie - Troll - that old chestnut AGAIN - oh my heed...!!!! :-)

Seen a whole yard doing this for years, shower horse, stable rug on - never seen any horses any the worse for it , but guess I would not know if they were feeling cold later on at night.

Anyhow cheers

(Off to google the bucas rug)
 
Ha ha thanks ILovefoals - don't think that's a option. Just gonna not use the shower, oh and go tell Dawn she was right lol
 
sheesh..
dont people learn a little basic stable management before buying a horse anymore? :confused:

yes , that's a sharp and perhaps a rude response and im sorry to offend but really, things like how to rug a wet horse so you dont leave it standing in its stable wet and shivering and the difference between a rug being wet on the outside from rain and wringing wet on the inside on a recently bathed horse is BASIC management.
 
I have for many years always bathed hot horses off. I always use hot water and never cold.
They are then rugged as normal. No thermatex or anything other than their usual rugs. In 20 - 30 minutes they are totally dry any water has wicked to the outside of the top rug.

For years of seeing to hunters after they have had a hard day I would clean and rub them dry only to find a couple of hours later they had broken out in a cold sweat. With bathing they never do this.

A wet horse, even if bathed in hot water, will soon chill if it only has a thin rug on it.

A lot of racing yards bath off and then immediately rug up.
 
Bucas does work...it wasn't cheap but I so liked the idea of not having to worry about a damp horse as I ride after work (so late!) I can get rained on and not worry. It's not a cheap option but has been a godsend..
 
Putting a non breathable rug on a wet horse will also create a breeding ground for bacteria. So putting a stable rug on a wet horse is not only going to make a stable rug wet.. but you might end up with a horse with rain scald.
 
Thankyou Foxhunter49

This is why I did it as seen it done on a large dealers Show Jumping yard..!!

But then maybe they have not been on a "basic horse management " course - silly people they are :-)

Shheeest Lula - save your rude comments please - I've no time for rude people.
 
I never put a stable rug on a wet horse an a dot any fleece should be used and then after half hour a stable rug. Surely you can see that sitting in wet clothing in winter would make you feel cold. Energy is used in the drying process and that is often why wet clothes make you feel chilly.
 
I have for many years always bathed hot horses off. I always use hot water and never cold.
They are then rugged as normal. No thermatex or anything other than their usual rugs. In 20 - 30 minutes they are totally dry any water has wicked to the outside of the top rug.

No doubt also fully clipped, not blanket clipped.

Still think it is poor practice and not something I would do.
 
Toast i did wonder that about rain scold but having witnessed it done to 30 odd horses all through the winter , I assume not. Why though I'm unsure..??
 
Settle an argument..if ever there was an invite to start one :D. I use one of those synthetic chamois sponges for drying cars. It absorbs an amazing amount of water and much better than an ordinary cotton cloth. Think I got mine from TKMax .. I thought it was a total no no to put a rug on a wet horse and that it would cause skin problems?
 
Thankyou Foxhunter49

This is why I did it as seen it done on a large dealers Show Jumping yard..!!

But then maybe they have not been on a "basic horse management " course - silly people they are :-)

Shheeest Lula - save your rude comments please - I've no time for rude people.

sorry, but tough. its an open forum.
 
Am I missing something ? If you are not sure whether the horse and rug will dry out - surely you would just check after a couple of hours or appropriate time to see if horse was dry/comfortable and then you would know for future reference.

peronally, if I have to wash off I put a cooler on until horse is dry (under another rug if necessary) usually find no need to take cooler off as drys with heat of horse.
 
Toast i did wonder that about rain scold but having witnessed it done to 30 odd horses all through the winter , I assume not. Why though I'm unsure..??

I once took pity on my appaloosa when he was shivering in the peeing rain. He was in a field full that were living out and i didnt have the option to bring him in. So stupidly stuck a mw turnout on him thinking i was doing him a favour. 2 days later...rain scald. Ever since then he's been annoyingly prone to it.

I would never put a stable rug on a wet horse. Thats what coolers are for.
 
The bucas Celtic rugs are great, i hsve a full set and they are a god send. I'll hot cloth a sweaty horse and then happily leave the bucas on
 
Ludocrtro you clearly think you are correct so why even ask.....?

Imo it is bad practice... For many of the reasons other have said, surely you will have half an hour to leave a cooler on whilst you put tack away, get him settled for the night ect ect... Then when he is dry he can have his stable rug on...
 
TrasaM too true

But then H&H people would argue black was white just for the sake if a cyber car fight lol

Me personally I take it all with a pinch of salt and with regards to this "argument" they have settled it for me, my friend was right I was wrong- she will be delighted..!!

I'm now also £100 outta pocket as away to buy that bucas rug , just be be on the safe side. Don't want my boy getting foosty skin or cold.

Oh and for those worried that my poor horse is suffering at the hands of a fool - don't worry only been on this yard 4 weeks and he only had 5 showers so he not turned into a gremlin or such like :-)
 
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