Shameful riding at Badminton XC

It amazes me how judgemental you lot are. You are not the ones riding around that course are you? if you feel you could do it in a better way i would love to see you hop on and show me. But of course that wouldnt happen.
I would much rather they had a couple of reminders than trip over the jumps and fall.
 
Mondy said:
And Ingrid Klimke has just demonstrated how to do this riding thing properly. Absolutely delightful - such a sympathetic horsewoman.
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She was one of the worst I seen! Flying wild around the course, horse slipped up on at least two occasions so I think her fall was just deserved. You could see it coming a mile off!
 
Funny that chloe because that wasnt how we saw it on the course.
They are at the level they are because they are good riders and worked their butts off to get there.
It doesnt always look pretty but its a test for horse and rider, not about who can be the prettiest.
 
Chloe..x said:
She was one of the worst I seen! Flying wild around the course, horse slipped up on at least two occasions so I think her fall was just deserved. You could see it coming a mile off!
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Quite. Even the BBC commentary team mentioned it. Well, Pippa Funnell did anyway!

Using the whip to buck your horses ideas up is cruel but running it at fences that clearly need collection in a reckless fashion is fine? OK then.
 
Kadastorm said:
Funny that chloe because that wasnt how we saw it on the course.
They are at the level they are because they are good riders and worked their butts off to get there.
It doesnt always look pretty but its a test for horse and rider, not about who can be the prettiest.
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Did you see the majority of her round as shown on the BBC's coverage?
Nearly tipped up at the Lake, nearly tipped up at another point on the course, cant remember which.
They are at that level because they have the money to be there as well as being considered "good"
There are many brilliant riders at my yard and at many competitions that I go but they do not have the money to have the 4* level horse. So they haven't necessarily worked there butts off to get there!
 
I was watching on the Red button and saw good and bad examples of riding, but what struck me the most was how the horses were tiring. I don't think I've ever seen an event where so many have struggled - they really seemed to droop coming to the quarry - maybe they'd switched off after the long gallop from the previous complex, but it was shocking how they still had about eight jumping efforts to make, with very little petrol left in the tank. I did think that some horses looked rather too well fleshed for the work they were having to do, although I know the TV can give a false impression of condition.
 
Kadastorm said:
Funny that chloe because that wasnt how we saw it on the course.
They are at the level they are because they are good riders and worked their butts off to get there.
It doesnt always look pretty but its a test for horse and rider, not about who can be the prettiest.
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Whilst I appreciate the amount of training and competing that has been undertaken to even GET to Badders, PLUS the amount of adrenaline in human and equine during the actual round... I would also like to point out that the majority of the competitors that make it round have not resorted to violent outbursts.
 
Totally agree with the OP - the horse would never be able to associate that smack with the refused jump, either it should have been done immediately as the horse refused, a quick tap on approach the second time round or not at all (which I think would be a lot better all round).
the most abysmal riding was Louise Skelton again - shocking that she can even have got to that level she looks like a total novice and I'm surprised she hasn't killed herself and her horses by now :-(
 
Kadastorm said:
It amazes me how judgemental you lot are. You are not the ones riding around that course are you? if you feel you could do it in a better way i would love to see you hop on and show me. But of course that wouldnt happen.
I would much rather they had a couple of reminders than trip over the jumps and fall.
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This is my thoughts exactly, well said.
It's very easy to judge and analyse afterwards, hindsight is a wonderful thing.
 
Chloe..x said:
She was one of the worst I seen! Flying wild around the course, horse slipped up on at least two occasions so I think her fall was just deserved. You could see it coming a mile off!
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I wouldn't say that she or the horse deserved the fall, but she was riding like a woman possessed. The commentators even said (in a not so direct way) that she was pushing her luck.
 
B-B said:
What happened to Oli's horse?
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Left a leg at the second fence at the Quarry and kinda landed with front legs and back legs underneath him. Pretty hard to describe but the horse nearly fell at the lake for the same reason, looked very tired
 
I really resent hearing the intonations that some of these people are only there cause they have the money! Yes, money paves an easier track for you - but at this level of the sport nothing can be considered easy and even people who are financially well off wouldn't be there without oodles of talent shown at some point.

I was there and didn't see any of the above mentioned bad riding, what I did see however were lots of riders taking perfect lines, making those horrendous jumps look easy. Good show I say, most of them make me proud to be a rider!
 
Amelia27 said:
Totally agree with the OP - the horse would never be able to associate that smack with the refused jump, either it should have been done immediately as the horse refused, a quick tap on approach the second time round or not at all (which I think would be a lot better all round).
the most abysmal riding was Louise Skelton again - shocking that she can even have got to that level she looks like a total novice and I'm surprised she hasn't killed herself and her horses by now :-(
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What a rediculous thing to say about a girl whos been round badminton for about the last 4 years usually on 2 rides!! Really dont think people should be slagging people who are out there doin it. I watch badminton and other big events to be inspired not to rip appart anyone who makes a mistake or error of judgement. Im pretty sure weve all done it, I know i have! :D
 
Oh sorry obviously not allowed to have my own opinion - this board is ridiculous, the whole idea of discussion boards is to discuss one's opinions on a topic. I didn't say any of you are ridiculous for your opinions so how dare you have the audacity to say my opinions are ridiculous? Oh and that's how you spell ridiculous by the way ;-)
Louise skeleton is a cr*p rider and could easily have killed her horse yesterday. I would never be able to ride round that course, but even I have better feel for a horse than her
 
Louise Skelton is not a crap rider - she has produced two homebred horses by herself to 4-star level. Objectively she is not a crap rider. I believe she had a very nasty injury and subsequent metalwork in her leg a few years ago that means she has to ride differently to how she used to so she doesn't look as stylish as some others but she is riding at the very top level.

If you see the horse and rider in action for a maximum of 7 minutes a year in a highly edited television format, I doubt very much that you can make any kind of informed judgement about the quality of her riding and to suggest that you have a better feel than someone who can take her homebreds around Badminton just suggests that you have no idea what it takes to get a horse to that level. 4-star horse don't grow on trees, they are carefully made and she has got the results to prove it.
 
Amelia27 you should re read what you have posted and realise what a stupidly damning post that was and how it made you look.

This is a public forum, and once you post you leave yourself open to criticism, and most of the knowledgeable members dont take kindly to comments like your own.
 
I think all these riders are fabulous and clearly the most talented riders in the world. They don't specialise in one area - they have to be extremely proficient in all three disciplines - now that must take some doing!

I only saw the second half of the XC - gutted that Ruth Edge had to call it a day after such an amazing dressage score.

What I was more concerned by was the number of horses who at the end of the course were stumbling over jumps with exhaustion......everybody decided to have a go at the GN for having tired horses, but they were no more tired than some that finished yesterday....I'm surprised that nobody has started a "Let's ban eventing" thread yet!
 
Amelia27 said:
Totally agree with the OP - the horse would never be able to associate that smack with the refused jump, either it should have been done immediately as the horse refused, a quick tap on approach the second time round or not at all (which I think would be a lot better all round).
the most abysmal riding was Louise Skelton again - shocking that she can even have got to that level she looks like a total novice and I'm surprised she hasn't killed herself and her horses by now :-(
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Amelia27 said:
Louise skeleton is a cr*p rider and could easily have killed her horse yesterday. I would never be able to ride round that course, but even I have better feel for a horse than her
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Amelia, do you realise just how much of a cow you sound? How many 4*'s have you ridden after surviving a near fatal car crash with a fused ankle? None I would think. I really don't think you can say she is a crap rider, and it would be interesting to see you ride her horses around a 4*. The fall they had was neither of their faults really. They just had no stride and the horse tried to jump for her. Therefore it trusts her and doesn't think it is going to die.

btw as you appear to be the world's greatest rider, why don't you post a few videos of yourself?
 
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