Shamelessly judgemental thread!

You'd be surprised at how many exracers go well bitless. We had a horse in training that no matter what bit we tried he was never happy in his mouth and thus was continually sore. He was useless so was sold on and he is now quite happily hunting and sjing in a Dr Cooks.
 
The wonderful, and seemingly nowadays very common, combination of ignorance and laziness. These are two conditions that do not do well in any horse-related situation.
 
idiots who are in a two rear wheel drive mazda sports cars, venturing along tiny local tracks as the A66 is closed, during a serious snow session and drifting. Then get grounded on snow. Block the road. Try and help dig out, push back, push forward, in a bloomin blizzard. One hour later. Call the AA.

If the weather man says it's a bit snowy and not to venture out - do not drive on tiny lanes unless you have a 4 x 4, a shovel, grit, coffee and bloody warm clothing.

rant over.
 
Novices who buy youngsters, screw them up and then blame the horse, its happening on our yard now and its really hard to watch. Person in question thinks he knows it all and won't take ANY advice. Poor, poor horse :(
 
The almost compulsory need to use a flash noseband. If your horse opens his mouth it's because it's uncomfortable in there!

Those who do the flash strap up so tight that your horse had his teeth strapped together. You try running with your jaw clenched shut and see how you like it.
 
Re flash straps. Agree, too tight is just stupid. I don't use them. However, they can serve a purpose. Such as in racing. Horses can't breathe through their mouths so not a good analogy about trying to run with your mouth clamped shut. But some horses will lob their tongue about and roll it back and it will cause issues to proper airway function. And no not because hands are pulling their mouth open. They do serve a purpose and can be fitted correctly.

Terri
 
Natch said:
Those who do the flash strap up so tight that your horse had his teeth strapped together. You try running with your jaw clenched shut and see how you like it.
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I've just been reading a thread on another forum about how a relaxed jaw is key to the horse being able to use it's back and abdominal muscles properly so it can carry us and do what we ask. Makes sense to me, any jaw tension (or resistance) is going to cause tension elsewhere in the body.
 
Equilibrium Ireland said:
Re flash straps. Agree, too tight is just stupid. I don't use them. However, they can serve a purpose. Such as in racing. Horses can't breathe through their mouths so not a good analogy about trying to run with your mouth clamped shut. But some horses will lob their tongue about and roll it back and it will cause issues to proper airway function. And no not because hands are pulling their mouth open. They do serve a purpose and can be fitted correctly.

Terri
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Hi Terri

I'm not concerned that a flash prevents mouth breathing which as you say isn't something that occurs in horses, but how every concussive force is felt through gritted teeth ;)

Interesting to hear that about tongues and airway function, not heard that before :)

Of course there is a place for flashes, but on the whole I'd argue they are generally being used to fix a symptom, not a cause. And I've been guilty of that.
 
Wagtail said:
Yes, they have all the girth straps on the same piece of cheap webbing. The stirp bars are rough and sharp and would rub through the leathers. In addition they can only be used with the hinge in the upwards position, so unsafe should you fall off. The flocking is really hard and very lumpy too. I was swayed by the 'German' reference I guess as have had good quality cheap German tack before. But these are actually made in India! Rant over.
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Horrendous!! So what's the 'German' bit then? I have an Argie saddle and it's actually very very good (not that Germany and Argentina are anywhere near each other :p )
 
I'm definitely not saying the thing about the flash to be mean. Bad fitting and too tight are nightmares. I just don't have the need for them at the moment.

With all these threads it's personal preference. I'm more likely to take the p out of myself quicker than someone else. Because I don't agree with something doesn't mean someone isn't using it correctly and successfully. So I do try to put it all in perspective.

Terri
 
People
who keep fat animals over winter in stables then muzzle or stable them in summer to "control weight"
Poor beggars are always shut up and starving hungry
The slight misconception that horses living out cause more damage to fields than those kept in for months
Keeping horses in 24/7 any time of year
Feed companies that should have learned by now horses dont need carbs and particularly sugar in their diet so stop flogging it
cereals and sugars in feeds that are disguised every bag should by law have to say if they contain either so it is easy to distinguish what is what and in big letters on the front not in a tiny print on the back
Muzzles I hate muzzles it doesnt take much effort to never need one but my ponies must be clever as they have yet to make one they cant get off.
they also reduce the level of fibre going through a horse so can cause ulcers they are also culprits in tooth damage and poor dentition
 
Bestdogdash said:
I dare, because I was asked, via the title of the thread, to comment on issues I find myself being 'shamefully judgemental' about, which is precisely what I have done. Please note the word 'shamefully' in the title. I can recommend a dictionary, should you need to clarify the meaning.

I don't have any guilt and neither do I feel small. Furthermore I suspect that all of the posts commenting on a persons weight, for example, don't feel guilty about the fact that it may be offensive to others here. Nor should they. We are all entitled to a view.

For the record, I am actually dyslexic and have worked and continue to work exceptionally hard to ensure that my spelling, use of english and grammar are correct - as a mark of respect for all those who have to or choose to read it.

How dare you berate me, for expressing a view I was invited to make?
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This is a horse forum not an English lesson, i left school a long long time ago, if anyone pulls me up on my spelling and grammar on here they will get short shrift from me!!
 
So many of these, which are mainly covered by amymays 'stupid people' comment. Basically people who don't have their horses best interests as even a remote consideration.
Also the phrase 'real women' used with derogatory comments about thin people, as though thigh measurement has any bearing on how feminine a woman is.
 
Littlelegs said:
So many of these, which are mainly covered by amymays 'stupid people' comment. Basically people who don't have their horses best interests as even a remote consideration.
Also the phrase 'real women' used with derogatory comments about thin people, as though thigh measurement has any bearing on how feminine a woman is.
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Sorry? Did you say something stick lady? :D

I bet you tuck your bloody top in your jods don't you ? Grrrrrrr!
 
FWIW, I'd like it if the spelling and grammar police could let more things go, it is a chat forum not an english exam, but tbf this is a thread asking people to share what they are judgmental about and I think one or two people are over-reacting a bit. :o
 
Flame_ said:
FWIW, I'd like it if the spelling and grammar police could let more things go, it is a chat forum not an english exam, but tbf this is a thread asking people to share what they are judgmental about and I think one or two people are over-reacting a bit. :o
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How dare you share your opinion on this subject!
 
JFTD said:
I heard a squeak in the background... I thought it was a mouse, not a real woman :D



(self confessed lard-arse here)
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She hasn't come back. Do you think she has slipped down the plug hole or between the cracks in the pavement?


*think I have now pushed it too far and she is going to come back and call me a fat cow*
 
Billie1007 said:
She hasn't come back. Do you think she has slipped down the plug hole or between the cracks in the pavement?


*think I have now pushed it too far and she is going to come back and call me a fat cow*
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No I think she was so upset by your comment, she developed stable vices, weaved off two more pounds and slipped into a two dimensional reality whereby she can no longer interact with a 3-D universe.

Not a problem for us fat cattle-types :D I'm thinking of taking up windsucking as the latest fad diet...
 
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