marmalade76
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You can come & ride my horse for free! Sorry, no mucking out though.
Sharing costs on the up?
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lexiedhb
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Don't forget that if she's got him on her own land there's the cost of buying the land in the first place. Currently agricultural land costs about £6K/acre, but equestrian near a more urban area is a lot dearer, and if it's part of a property it can add ££££ - there was a house in Northamptonshire on one of those TV programmes and just adding a stable block to their 2 acres increased the value by 80K. She may have a mortgage, and if she's had to secure a fixed rate (perhaps daytime job isn't too secure) then it'll be a lot more than they were fixed at. Then there's the cost of rates (most places went up 5% this year) water rates, insurance, fencing, ground maintenance...aside from the cost of insuring the (now older) horse before you get into the other horsey costs of vets bills, dentist etc.
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Sorry but I really dont think you can expect a sharere to pay for the cost of the land you keep the horse on!!!
Don't forget that if she's got him on her own land there's the cost of buying the land in the first place. Currently agricultural land costs about £6K/acre, but equestrian near a more urban area is a lot dearer, and if it's part of a property it can add ££££ - there was a house in Northamptonshire on one of those TV programmes and just adding a stable block to their 2 acres increased the value by 80K. She may have a mortgage, and if she's had to secure a fixed rate (perhaps daytime job isn't too secure) then it'll be a lot more than they were fixed at. Then there's the cost of rates (most places went up 5% this year) water rates, insurance, fencing, ground maintenance...aside from the cost of insuring the (now older) horse before you get into the other horsey costs of vets bills, dentist etc.
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Sorry but I really dont think you can expect a sharere to pay for the cost of the land you keep the horse on!!!
LankyDoodle
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I have no problems charging a sharer £20-25 for 3 days per week. Afterall, the reason some of the people I have had contact from want to share, is because they cannot afford the full cost of owning their own horse.
I expect a contribution towards keeping the horse, especially with regards shoes, back checks, saddle checks and food. I don't expect them to do all the jobs as I am quite particular (and my horses actually live out at the moment so we just have to poo pick twice a day), but they tend to actually WANT to do the jobs as they want a slice of horse ownership, without the weight of responsibility if things go too wrong, and without the financial burden... they can back out when they like with no need to sell any horse, tack etc. Just bye bye and their bank account is £20 a week better off.
I think if people are unhappy to pay to share a horse, then they are, I guess, more than welcome to go off to the local RS, pay for a couple of lessons a week and plod round the school/go out I guess, and then muck out a dozen stables there.
I expect a contribution towards keeping the horse, especially with regards shoes, back checks, saddle checks and food. I don't expect them to do all the jobs as I am quite particular (and my horses actually live out at the moment so we just have to poo pick twice a day), but they tend to actually WANT to do the jobs as they want a slice of horse ownership, without the weight of responsibility if things go too wrong, and without the financial burden... they can back out when they like with no need to sell any horse, tack etc. Just bye bye and their bank account is £20 a week better off.
I think if people are unhappy to pay to share a horse, then they are, I guess, more than welcome to go off to the local RS, pay for a couple of lessons a week and plod round the school/go out I guess, and then muck out a dozen stables there.
charliesarmy
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My sharer used to give me £100 a month for 4 days a week (no jobs) she was great....I tried a share for jobs and it just didnt work the girl showed know responsibility and wrecked a load of my stuff the woman who paid seemed a lot more caring and considerate....also 4 rides a week would have cost her alot more than £100 at a RS..OP its whatever you want to pay if you don't like the hike you can always walk..
lexiedhb
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I think it depends on why you want/need a sharer. At uni when I had my own horse I needed the time (to go to the pub LOL) so had a sharer who "did" my horse a few times a week...... I never asked for a monetary contribution as i saw her as helping me out as much as I was helping her! If it is purely for financial reasons which alot are then of course more is going to be charged----- when I was looking for a share some people wanted as much as £240 a month for 2 weekdays a week, because said nag was on full livery at some posh yard!!---- wouldnt catch me paying that!
Now the roles are reversed, I pay a pitance for as many days a week as I want, could compete if that was my thing, but also help the owner out by doing her horses if shes away or on my days, and she gets someone who has also improved her nags way of going, and someone she can trust with her ponies.......
Her other horse was also looking for a sharer, she had about 10 people try her..... all numpties..... she decided that i needed to be cloned so I must be doing something right!
Now the roles are reversed, I pay a pitance for as many days a week as I want, could compete if that was my thing, but also help the owner out by doing her horses if shes away or on my days, and she gets someone who has also improved her nags way of going, and someone she can trust with her ponies.......
Her other horse was also looking for a sharer, she had about 10 people try her..... all numpties..... she decided that i needed to be cloned so I must be doing something right!
zefragile
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Sorry but I really dont think you can expect a sharere to pay for the cost of the land you keep the horse on!!!
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Ditto this. There's absolutely no way I'd ever pay for that as a sharer, would be ridiculous. That's like saying a lodger at your house should have to pay for the cost of the building, not really reasonable.
Sorry but I really dont think you can expect a sharere to pay for the cost of the land you keep the horse on!!!
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Ditto this. There's absolutely no way I'd ever pay for that as a sharer, would be ridiculous. That's like saying a lodger at your house should have to pay for the cost of the building, not really reasonable.
CBAnglo
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Sorry but I really dont think you can expect a sharere to pay for the cost of the land you keep the horse on!!!
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Ditto this. There's absolutely no way I'd ever pay for that as a sharer, would be ridiculous. That's like saying a lodger at your house should have to pay for the cost of the building, not really reasonable.
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But that is exactly what a lodger is paying for!
I think it is reasonable to include the cost of the land - surely her mortgage is much bigger for the fact that she has her own land. Ultimately, £20 pw isnt going to cover the cost of the horse.
OP - maybe you could say fine to the increase but could you now have him 3 days - since she isnt really riding him, surely he would benefit from the extra exercise?
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Sorry but I really dont think you can expect a sharere to pay for the cost of the land you keep the horse on!!!
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Ditto this. There's absolutely no way I'd ever pay for that as a sharer, would be ridiculous. That's like saying a lodger at your house should have to pay for the cost of the building, not really reasonable.
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But that is exactly what a lodger is paying for!
I think it is reasonable to include the cost of the land - surely her mortgage is much bigger for the fact that she has her own land. Ultimately, £20 pw isnt going to cover the cost of the horse.
OP - maybe you could say fine to the increase but could you now have him 3 days - since she isnt really riding him, surely he would benefit from the extra exercise?
Rachaelpink
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I have a sharer. I worked out what my pony cost me a week, divided it by 7. My sharer has her 3 days per week and pays me just over £20, however I have charged her less then it actually costs me for those days. My costs have then also gone up a lot since she started loaning her i.e. livery increased, shavings from £5 to £8, farrier increased etc and I haven't put her costs up. I would really like to as I'm struggling but I'm scared of loosing her and starting the search all over again for someone decent. My horse is kept on a 'posh' DIY yard and is shod on the front only.
I would, as someone else suggested, ask the owner in what way the costs have increased so at least you know if the increase is justified, then you can decide.
I would, as someone else suggested, ask the owner in what way the costs have increased so at least you know if the increase is justified, then you can decide.
Maizy
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Don't forget that if she's got him on her own land there's the cost of buying the land in the first place. Currently agricultural land costs about £6K/acre, but equestrian near a more urban area is a lot dearer, and if it's part of a property it can add ££££ - there was a house in Northamptonshire on one of those TV programmes and just adding a stable block to their 2 acres increased the value by 80K. She may have a mortgage, and if she's had to secure a fixed rate (perhaps daytime job isn't too secure) then it'll be a lot more than they were fixed at. Then there's the cost of rates (most places went up 5% this year) water rates, insurance, fencing, ground maintenance...aside from the cost of insuring the (now older) horse before you get into the other horsey costs of vets bills, dentist etc.
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I'll ditto that - it all adds up!
Don't forget that if she's got him on her own land there's the cost of buying the land in the first place. Currently agricultural land costs about £6K/acre, but equestrian near a more urban area is a lot dearer, and if it's part of a property it can add ££££ - there was a house in Northamptonshire on one of those TV programmes and just adding a stable block to their 2 acres increased the value by 80K. She may have a mortgage, and if she's had to secure a fixed rate (perhaps daytime job isn't too secure) then it'll be a lot more than they were fixed at. Then there's the cost of rates (most places went up 5% this year) water rates, insurance, fencing, ground maintenance...aside from the cost of insuring the (now older) horse before you get into the other horsey costs of vets bills, dentist etc.
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I'll ditto that - it all adds up!