Shark Hanlon

[Clodagh]

Just confirming his position as a completely unpleasant man. My language would be a lot worse if not for hho wouldn’t be keen

'I'm disgusted, she left me looking a million dollars' - Shark Hanlon horrified at social media picture of filly

Shark Hanlon said he was horrified at a picture of Bedelia that appeared on social media this week after she left his stable looking "a million... Read More

www.racingpost.com

 

[webble]

Meh she was reluctant to move in the video he posted

 

[Clodagh]

I know that owners have to take responsibility as well. I know it’s not just him but from changing microchips to bulk selling to bin end dealers… poor horses.

 

[Juliet987654]

hey agre that owner responsibily is crucial.its sad when horse are treatd like objects rather than livng beings its importan for us as a comunity to support each other and educate other about horse welfare.remeber each of us can make a diference

 

[ester]

She definitely didn’t look a million dollars ..

 

[nutjob]

If it's the same horse as the one on dodgy dealers she did look very reluctant to move in the video and to me didn't look sound, especially for a fit TB which had recently raced, but she wasn't emaciated at the trainers. It's not clear if she's lost all this weight before leaving Ireland or if the British dealer who allegedly only had the horse 5/6 days before selling her on in this state bears some of the responsibility. There's several people who have failed this horse and it does seem like the trainers are given the bulk of the blame and owners of racehorses are not held up for same amount of scrutiny as other horse owners in these cases.

 

[Clodagh]

I haven’t actually seen anything other than the article above. Link anyone?

 

[nutjob]

There's some posts about it on Dodgy Horse Dealers - UK which includes response from the trainer.

 

[Clodagh]

I’m not a member of any dealing sites.

 

[nutjob]

The video of the horse is on X (twitter) under "Shark Hanlon Training" but I can't see the persons original tweet about the horse as that profile needs you to be an approved follower to view.

 

[humblepie]

It needs racing to educate owners as to their responsibility for the horse, be that one owner with 200 horses or someone who owns 10% and I think that owners should have to pay into a fund or lodge money in advance so that they cannot just walk away and leave it to the trainer, often owing money.

 

[Clodagh]

It needs racing to educate owners as to their responsibility for the horse, be that one owner with 200 horses or someone who owns 10% and I think that owners should have to pay into a fund or lodge money in advance so that they cannot just walk away and leave it to the trainer, often owing money.

Completely. I own micro shares with two syndicate companies and both offer end of career care.
I’ve also just bought a small percentage in two others and first found out what the syndicate managers plans were when they retire. Everyone should do that.

 

[Steerpike]

And now he has lost his trainers licence for 10 months for gross negligence relating to the transportation of a deceased horse.

 

[Clodagh]

And now he has lost his trainers licence for 10 months for gross negligence relating to the transportation of a deceased horse.

Eventually life catches up with people.

 

[FieldOrnaments]

i am not sure she is sound behind in the video they posted?

 

[humblepie]

Completely. I own micro shares with two syndicate companies and both offer end of career care.
I’ve also just bought a small percentage in two others and first found out what the syndicate managers plans were when they retire. Everyone should do that.

That is really good. The syndicate agreement/code of conduct (can't remember which or both) does cover the syndicate having an after racing/retirement plan for the horse. People asking like you have done will only help the process.

 

[Crazy_cat_lady]

Shark Hanlon 'surprised and disappointed' at ten-month suspension over transport of dead horse in open trailer

King George-winning trainer Shark Hanlon has described himself as "surprised and very disappointed" after his licence was suspended for ten months... Read More

www.racingpost.com

And another thing!!

I struggled with the ITV documentary as knew from comments on here he wasn't sweetness and lies, yet it was very much promoting him how great it was the underdog won (I thought that at the time)

I think all connections bare responsibility for what happens to a horse at the end of its career and authorities need to place greater emphasis on this with stricter regulations. I feel you can tell a lot the trainers that care as they're the ones who use non racing agreements, have pages dedicated to their ex racers and new careers

Owners too, should have greater responsibility, they're the ones who used the horse for that purpose, so when it can no longer fulfill that purpose, they need to take more responsibility for the next step.

Look at Godolphins retirement scheme, more of the big owners should fund those, there's a massive flat yard, who often sacrifices horses with lovely breeding as pacemakers, with billionaire owners who have enough horses to write off some, would be interesting to see what happens to the pacemakers etc at the end of their career....

 

[Crazy_cat_lady]

Could someone link directly to the video of the mare he sold, I don't do twitter

 

[bonny]

Shark Hanlon 'surprised and disappointed' at ten-month suspension over transport of dead horse in open trailer

King George-winning trainer Shark Hanlon has described himself as "surprised and very disappointed" after his licence was suspended for ten months... Read More

www.racingpost.com

And another thing!!

I struggled with the ITV documentary as knew from comments on here he wasn't sweetness and lies, yet it was very much promoting him how great it was the underdog won (I thought that at the time)

I think all connections bare responsibility for what happens to a horse at the end of its career and authorities need to place greater emphasis on this with stricter regulations. I feel you can tell a lot the trainers that care as they're the ones who use non racing agreements, have pages dedicated to their ex racers and new careers

Owners too, should have greater responsibility, they're the ones who used the horse for that purpose, so when it can no longer fulfill that purpose, they need to take more responsibility for the next step.

Look at Godolphins retirement scheme, more of the big owners should fund those, there's a massive flat yard, who often sacrifices horses with lovely breeding as pacemakers, with billionaire owners who have enough horses to write off some, would be interesting to see what happens to the pacemakers etc at the end of their career....

Do you think everyone who owns a horse is responsible for where it ends up, maybe months or years later ?

 

[Clodagh]

Do you think everyone who owns a horse is responsible for where it ends up, maybe months or years later ?

Do you not? Not even for a fortnight?

 

[humblepie]

British racing is looking at traceability from birth for whole life but agree as you say there does feel a point when the horse isn’t racing’s responsibility - for instance a 15 year old who raced once then evented for ten years. Just a discussion thought.

 

[FieldOrnaments]

This isn't months or years though, it's ten weeks. No one should sell to the first punter to rock up with the cash; they're living animals, not used cars.

 

[bonny]

This isn't months or years though, it's ten weeks. No one should sell to the first punter to rock up with the cash; they're living animals, not used cars.

In that case we would have no dealers ? How would that help ?

 

[FieldOrnaments]

it's more about there's an issue of being unselective which dealers horses go to. There's good and bad as there is good and bad in every profession.

 

[Clodagh]

In that case we would have no dealers ? How would that help ?

What would you feel would be suitable requirements?

 

[reynold]

Shark Hanlon 'hopeful' of getting licence back after fellow trainer Edward O'Grady fights his corner at appeal

The result of Shark Hanlon's appeal against the severity of a for bringing racing into disrepute will be announced within 14 days after a hearing at... Read More

www.racingpost.com

Shark Hanlon appeals his 10 month ban with support from Eddie O'Grady.

28 of his horses are consigned at upcoming Doncaster Sales.

 

[bonny]

Shark Hanlon 'hopeful' of getting licence back after fellow trainer Edward O'Grady fights his corner at appeal

The result of Shark Hanlon's appeal against the severity of a for bringing racing into disrepute will be announced within 14 days after a hearing at... Read More

www.racingpost.com

Shark Hanlon appeals his 10 month ban with support from Eddie O'Grady.

28 of his horses are consigned at upcoming Doncaster Sales.

It’s looking more hopeful for him

 

[webble]

It’s looking more hopeful for him

well thats not good

 

[Clodagh]

well thats not good

I was thinking how can anyone be a fan of someone who cuts microchips out of live horses!

 

[bonny]

I was thinking how can anyone be a fan of someone who cuts microchips out of live horses!

I don’t know him and I’ve no idea what he’s like apart from how he comes across on the tv but he’s facing a ban for transporting a dead horse not for anything else.