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On 3rd of feb my horse spooked in the barn someone was getting something out their car and she spooked and fell to her knees ( there's holes in the barn and she tripped ) when she got up she had marks down the front of her hoofs and was holding her left leg up I checked it. It wasn't swollen but she was moving it as i tried to touch anyways I walked her and she was putting weight on it I watched her alittle longer and put her to bed. The next morning 4th feb I noticed some hair missing from the front of her leg i touched it and she lifted it again. I watch her alittle closer and then turned her out she was fine in herself. Tonight Iv'e taken her out the field and she's not lame not hopping or anything but it's hot like boiling hot I touched it again and she lifted it Iv'e applied some flazmine and was planning on watching her see what she's like tomorrow and decide from there
any idea what might be wrong ? thank you in advance
 
Did you wash it thoroughly? Has she got a cut that now has something stuck in it? That will become infected pretty quickly... is it on her knee?
 
Did you cold hose to reduce heat and swelling, then bandage to help keep filling down, it takes 3 days for an infection to take hold, right time since it happened might need some ab's, best get vet out to check.
 
Billie1007 said:
Did you wash it thoroughly? Has she got a cut that now has something stuck in it? That will become infected pretty quickly... is it on her knee?
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Not a cut just bare pinkness like the hair has been pulled out no stones or grit or anythiong just bare. it's about 1inch to 2 inch from the coronet band
the patch is round and i would say about the size of a 1p maybe 2p
putasocinit said:
Did you cold hose to reduce heat and swelling, then bandage to help keep filling down, it takes 3 days for an infection to take hold, right time since it happened might need some ab's, best get vet out to check.
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well her legs hosed tonight for a good 5 mintues to get the mud off not cold hosing as such I know.

It's strange it's not swollen in the slightness just hot
 
Get the vet. If you don't know enough to have even trotted her up to assess soundness when it first happened, let alone notice the hair loss first off & lack of coldhosing, then I don't think you are qualified to be 'seeing how it goes' & trying to treat it yourself. I'd want it coldhosing now, I wouldn't risk it overnight if its filled in the field. And, even if skin doesn't appear broken now, it doesn't mean there wasn't a tiny puncture wound when it first happened. And puncture wounds require vets asap. Maybe its nothing, & it can wait till tomorrow for a vet, or maybe one isn't needed at all. But seen as you don't appear to have the knowledge to decide, its better safe than sorry, which means a vet now. Unless you want to run the risk of arriving tomorrow am to a massive infected tree trunk leg.
And if there are holes where she's stabled, put rubber matting down or fill them in.
 
Littlelegs said:
Get the vet. If you don't know enough to have even trotted her up to assess soundness when it first happened, let alone notice the hair loss first off & lack of coldhosing, then I don't think you are qualified to be 'seeing how it goes' & trying to treat it yourself. I'd want it coldhosing now, I wouldn't risk it overnight if its filled in the field. And, even if skin doesn't appear broken now, it doesn't mean there wasn't a tiny puncture wound when it first happened. And puncture wounds require vets asap. Maybe its nothing, & it can wait till tomorrow for a vet, or maybe one isn't needed at all. But seen as you don't appear to have the knowledge to decide, its better safe than sorry, which means a vet now. Unless you want to run the risk of arriving tomorrow am to a massive infected tree trunk leg.
And if there are holes where she's stabled, put rubber matting down or fill them in.
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Woah.... Hold on I came on here for advice not to be told "you don't know enough" I did state that i walked her she was not lame not hopping nothing I don't really want to go trotting up a horse that has just fallen on her knees and is shaken up. Of the size of it I doubt many would even noticed in a not very well lite barn. Iv'e been on my hands and knees looking at it i'm pretty sure i'd have noticed a puncture. I'm sorry if I don't appear to have the knowlegde. I'm human and i'm still learning none ever stops learning. I admit i don't know it all and i never will..
 
There's nothing wrong about not having the knowledge, & I didn't mean it as an insult. But the fact is, whatever your level of experience, or however much knowledge you have of injury, lameness, illness etc, if you are presented with something you aren't sure about, you ring a vet. I'm sorry you didn't come on here to be told 'you don't know enough'. But my opinion is that if you are unsure enough to ask on a forum, you aren't sure enough to deal with it. There is also absolutely nothing wrong with not having known to coldhose, however I stand by the fact if you don't know something, you get a vet.
 
Littlelegs said:
There's nothing wrong about not having the knowledge, & I didn't mean it as an insult. But the fact is, whatever your level of experience, or however much knowledge you have of injury, lameness, illness etc, if you are presented with something you aren't sure about, you ring a vet. I'm sorry you didn't come on here to be told 'you don't know enough'. But my opinion is that if you are unsure enough to ask on a forum, you aren't sure enough to deal with it. There is also absolutely nothing wrong with not having known to coldhose, however I stand by the fact if you don't know something, you get a vet.
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Agree.

Never take risks with legs (or anything else fo that matter) Often it is cheaper in the long run to call the vet and be told that everything is ok than to leave a problem to develop into something potentially far worse.
 
Littlelegs said:
There's nothing wrong about not having the knowledge, & I didn't mean it as an insult. But the fact is, whatever your level of experience, or however much knowledge you have of injury, lameness, illness etc, if you are presented with something you aren't sure about, you ring a vet. I'm sorry you didn't come on here to be told 'you don't know enough'. But my opinion is that if you are unsure enough to ask on a forum, you aren't sure enough to deal with it. There is also absolutely nothing wrong with not having known to coldhose, however I stand by the fact if you don't know something, you get a vet.
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If her leg was huge when she did it and was hopping lame I would but i really don't have the money to spen on a vet that either tells me it fine or it isn't which fair enough if i've made a mistake fine on my head be it but with the way iv'e seen vets treat things before I'm not being talked into a 200 pound plus bill for something unneeded or even just 45 to tell me there's nothing wrong.

as i'll stress again she is not lame ill or anyting yes she is lifting her leg but I would if i'd hit a hard ground with force. Seriously if it was something serious it would swell quick and it hasn't It about a penny size piece of skin with the hair pulled out I wasn't execpting all of this when i posted this. I know for sure there's no puncture wound literally just the skin.

Plus I'm not asking wether i'm right or wrong in not cold hosing it or trotting up if i took the right cause of action , having the knowledge.Maybe I should have cold hosed maybe I should have phoned a vet there and then two days ago. But I didn't and i can't change any of that now . I was simply asked what people thought it could be.
 
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For the sake of your horse, call the vet, you may think that there is no puncture wound but there could be a tiny one, even these are a conduit for infection and once it gets into the joint you will be looking at more than a £200 bill tbh.

Getting antsy with people just because you don't like what they say makes no difference, if you have to ask on an internet forum then I am sorry but I agree with Littlelegs, you do not have the knowledge to deal with this by yourself.
 
It could be literally anything. Cellulitis, bruising, infection from a puncture wound, hairline fracture, ligament or tendon damage done in the field because she's not picking that leg up properly through the mud, internal damage to her hoof, a chipped bone, etc etc. Who knows. But if you can't afford a vet bill then you can't afford a horse, end of. However, if you have decided you would rather risk your horses comfort & health over a vet bill, there's 3 things that could happen:
- it clears up by itself, either quickly or slowly.
- the heat goes but the horse is never 100% right again.
- it gets worse, either rapidly or over time.
And for future reference, the degree of lameness doesn't always reflect how serious it is. Fractures, ligament & tendon damage etc can look very mild, abcesses they are often hopping.
 
Sorry, but have to agree with Littlelegs, vets opinion required. my first thought in reading OP was small puncture/splinter that could be missed in your dimly lit barn, but could quickly close over on the surface. Infection could have got in and would cause the heat, and the small area of hair loss could indicate horse has been rubbing/nibbling at it due to irritation. Please spend the £45 to get it checked, only a problem if you have a reason not to trust your vet in which case find another asap. Hope horse will be ok.
 
Hi there ..I would say if there is an infection ..the leg WOULD be swollen ..and she would have trouble bending the joint ..she the leg hot or just the bald skin? If the Leg /joint is cold and no swelling and the horse is sound in walk and trot ..I don't think there is an infection....BUT if it was my horsey I would have trotted up twice a day (maybe you trot her and get someone experienced to look) and cold hose twice a day for 20mins ...also I may have given a bute (bute will not hide an infection horse would still swell and show heat and go lame ) so what I'm saying is maybe I would have done things differently to u ..(trot up, cold hose bute for maybe 3 days) if the leg is stone cold and no large swelling (a little is to be expected) the horse can freely bend/use the joint ..and an experienced eye agrees the horse is sound (walk and trot ) then I would say ..hibi scrab the leg ..keep up the cold hose ..t/o or light lunge (no small tight circles) BUT if it swells ,hot leg ,any lameness call your vet ..you only get 4 legs and you need each and every one of them ;)
 
It ceases to amaze me the amount of people who will not call a vet. Legs are important and the smallest of holes can get infected and then you can (in the worse case) lose your beloved friend. Do the right thing and call the vet £45.00 or whatever the fee is better than not having your horse. Sorry if that sounds harsh but I have lost a horse from an infection in the leg and I called the vet straight away and I was still left with a £3,500 vet bill and no horse.
 
Okay well If anyone wants to send me the money to pay for a vet i'm happy to go with that ?... there will be no offers for this. if people think it's something serious and are saying vet fine.

I'm going to the yard now ( Btw yesterday when I went to get her in for the field she trotted up to the gate no lameness at all nothing)



I do understand how important legs are the last time something happened to her hock i got a vet I was cold hosing this thing three four times a day probably more and trotting her up at each one I'm not stupid I do no how to do all of this. I will take a picture this next to a tape measure or something of how big this patch actually is. I doubt many people would spot it or even do anything about it like I did

Also I could not treat this horse any better if she's been out in the field and her rug is muddy it gets washed. This horse never has any mud anywhere after she had mud fever i'm really obessed with making sure her legs are clean her legs are felt down everyday this horses hoofs are picked out atleast 4 times a day. I do everything in my power to make sure she is happy and healthy. A horse that has a puncture wound isn't going to trot and canter up to the field to me with no lameness and in no pain. In herself this horse doesn't seem to notice this is on her leg.


I don't want a fight over this thank you for you advice i'll see hwta happening this morning
 
Seen as you've decided its not your responsibility to pay for a vet, I hope for the horses sake its nothing & she's fine today. But for the record, explaining things like washing her rug, & how clean she is just brings the phrase 'fur coat & no knickers' to mind. And I've seen a horse with a puncture wound so slightly effected that unless you really knew her you wouldn't have noticed her hocks weren't flexing quite as much as normal.
And the reason I won't be sending money for a vet is because you, not I, decided to take on the horse & all it entails. What a ridiculous reply.
 
I would also call the vet. Nobody is going to offer to pay for your vet fee, if you have a horse the fee's come with that responsibility and I am sure we have all been there with not a lot of money when something happens but you deal with it for the sake of the horse.

My horse has leg issues, different to yours but just to help with the point of lameness not showing everything- she trotted up 100%, flexions on all 4 100%, but on x-ray she should have been a cripple and £2000 of vet bills later we finally have a diagnosis.

Are you not insured? First port of call personally for me is hose, trot up, bute, possible bandaging for a few days and if still swelling/heat/lameness then get the vet.

Good luck!
 
Littlelegs said:
There's nothing wrong about not having the knowledge, & I didn't mean it as an insult. But the fact is, whatever your level of experience, or however much knowledge you have of injury, lameness, illness etc, if you are presented with something you aren't sure about, you ring a vet. I'm sorry you didn't come on here to be told 'you don't know enough'. But my opinion is that if you are unsure enough to ask on a forum, you aren't sure enough to deal with it. There is also absolutely nothing wrong with not having known to coldhose, however I stand by the fact if you don't know something, you get a vet.
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Agree with littelegs.....

If your unsure or somethings beyond you knowledge or experience ring the vet. Thats what the vets there for :)
 
Purple18 said:
Okay well If anyone wants to send me the money to pay for a vet i'm happy to go with that ?...
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I actually cannot believe this comment. She is YOUR horse and you are responsible for her vet bills. You seemed to want a "there there don't worry" to your post and did not like it when people said to call the vet. A heat response, human or animal, is not normal and is something that needs looking into. Perhaps you should have looked to fill in the holes in the barn at the first off, rather than leaving them.
 
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Clipped back the hair with clean scissors to have a good look at it there's flakey skin but little else I can touch it and she doesn't care there's no puncture wounds anywhere no bleeding no nothing . My farrier came this morning I didn't mention it to him and he didn't notice/ comment on it it it was hot he would have told me to get a vet. I've put some flazmine on it and she's now running around with her freinds in the field having a great time...
 
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