Shes NOT a thoroughbred!!!!

Ignorance is bliss Spring Feather. I am sticking to my comment as it was just that, a comment on the fact that my pony is more horse proportion that Shetland proportion. I have plenty of experience of county show standard Shetland ponies and that is just the light hearted way in which I see it.
Im sure to be crucified now that I point out I normally add that a Shetland at 15hh would more resemble a prize winning cow than a horse lol ( light hearted now remember ;-) )
 
patchwork puzzle said:
Ignorance is bliss Spring Feather. I am sticking to my comment as it was just that, a comment on the fact that my pony is more horse proportion that Shetland proportion. I have plenty of experience of county show standard Shetland ponies and that is just the light hearted way in which I see it.
Im sure to be crucified now that I point out I normally add that a Shetland at 15hh would more resemble a prize winning cow than a horse lol ( light hearted now remember ;-) )
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You clearly don't like shetlands :rolleyes:

All the "lighthearted comments" in the world won't change the fact that shetland conformation has very little in common with cattle conformation, or that while your miniature might more closely resemble a scaled down riding type horse, that does not mean a scaled up shet would look "extremely freaky".

Personally I think all minis are an abomination, but each to his own.
 
patchwork puzzle said:
Ignorance is bliss Spring Feather. I am sticking to my comment as it was just that, a comment on the fact that my pony is more horse proportion that Shetland proportion. I have plenty of experience of county show standard Shetland ponies and that is just the light hearted way in which I see it.
Im sure to be crucified now that I point out I normally add that a Shetland at 15hh would more resemble a prize winning cow than a horse lol ( light hearted now remember ;-) )
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I can't remember who it was exactly but I remember some years ago a university over here I believe who did studies on crossing Shires with Shetlands. It was some time ago and from what I remember the progeny was all still more Shetlandy than Shirey. Does anyone else remember this? If so maybe we should try to find the pictures.
 
Justfindingthedecorations... I do like Shetlands in actual fact. My lad is in fact 42" so the same height as a Shetland. He is technicaly a miniature on paper but in no way an abomination, neither are Shetlands for that matter!
 
It's interesting to read the 'minature horse' comments. My back lady came to treat my herd years ago and she was really surprised and pleased to tell me that the 13hh pony I had bought had a horse's structure and how unusual that was and she rarely comes accross it. Then she treated my falabella x and was gobsmacked that he was the same. She reckoned the odds of finding 2 ponies which were effectively minature horses in one yard was very rare indeed.
 
<a href=http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/muppetk31ajh/teddy/?action=view&current=DSC00401.jpg target=_blank><img src=http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/muppetk31ajh/teddy/DSC00401.jpg border=0 alt=></a> I dont know if this will work but its a link to my little Teddy
 
YasandCrystal said:
It's interesting to read the 'minature horse' comments. My back lady came to treat my herd years ago and she was really surprised and pleased to tell me that the 13hh pony I had bought had a horse's structure and how unusual that was and she rarely comes accross it. Then she treated my falabella x and was gobsmacked that he was the same. She reckoned the odds of finding 2 ponies which were effectively minature horses in one yard was very rare indeed.
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Do you have any pics? Would be really interesting :) I always find it interesting looking at the different types of minis. Much prefer miniature ponies than horses, but purely because my friend used to have a driving pair and they were great fun! The 'horse' type seem to be only used for showing, which I can't say interests me much :D
 
This should work Patchwork puzzle

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Thankyou Spring Feather. Thats Teddy, my 42" miniature. Although he doesnt look like your stereotypical miniature, he does suffer with genetic issues. At the beginning of 2012 he was diagnosed with a partially collapsed windpipe which I was told is very likely due to his being miniature and just two days ago I was at the horspital with him as he doesnt appear to see to well and has been diagnosed with a degenerative retina condition, again most likely something he was born with.
Teddy is a rescued pony with a heart of gold and I would do everything for him in the same way as my Haffie or any other horse, but I do not agree with breeding miniature anything, be it horses or dogs, in part due to the genetic medical conditions which they are so often going to suffer from.
 
rhino said:
Do you have any pics? Would be really interesting :) I always find it interesting looking at the different types of minis. Much prefer miniature ponies than horses, but purely because my friend used to have a driving pair and they were great fun! The 'horse' type seem to be only used for showing, which I can't say interests me much :D
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In my opinion, miniature horses tend to have peculiar conformation, while the miniature ponies are much truer to type (and are great fun to play with - I've always fancied a pair of shetlands to drive :D ). There are, of course, exceptions in mini horses, perhaps YandC is fortunate enough to have such an animal. I'd like to see pics too, if you have any!


eta - PP your last comment is exactly why I said that minis are an abomination. It might be fairer to say that the breeding of them is an abomination though.
 
Exmoors are the only purebreds around;) Supposed to be roughly the same as when the Romans turned up, although I'm sure random blood has been added in since.

And I'm also a little sceptical of breeding minis. Shetlands aren't actually supposed to be as small as many of them are. Dwarfism might be cute but I'm not sure it's a genetic trait we should encourage!
 
JustFindingTheDecorations said:
In my opinion, miniature horses tend to have peculiar conformation, while the miniature ponies are much truer to type (and are great fun to play with - I've always fancied a pair of shetlands to drive :D ). There are, of course, exceptions in mini horses, perhaps YandC is fortunate enough to have such an animal. I'd like to see pics too, if you have any!


eta - PP your last comment is exactly why I said that minis are an abomination. It might be fairer to say that the breeding of them is an abomination though.
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Agree totally, apart from wanting to own a shetland - no ta :P

Now back to the original question - this used to happen to me a lot when I owned the bay in my sig. So many people asked me if he'd raced, but he was more WB than TB, but in fairness he did look very like a TB and wasn't branded.

It also happened more recently when hunting on AprilBlossom's big boy, I was asked more than once if he'd raced despite being branded, not lookng that TBish (I suppose he was fairly lean at the time so perhaps easier to mistake) and moving like a WB, not a TB.

None of this has bothered me at all, as said before, a quality horse is a quality horse regardless of breed. You sound like a snob, OP.
 
I kinda can't get mad when people don't know what breed Sandy is, because I don't either!

The general guesstimation is Connemara x Welsh D but who really knows for sure, either way I couldn't care less.

To be honest I'm impressed if they can get his colour right!! :D
 
LOL I have only read the first page....but I must point out that Thoroughbreds are actually specialized part bred Arabs!!!
 
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I'm not sure what you mean.No, my mistake, :( :o I thought that you were telling people that she was a Paint, and that they were completely missing the point, in which case my comment stands

A pinto is a colour, when I say she is an American Paint Horse they correct me and say you mean pinto, which I don't.
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Pinto is not a term I hear used very often, anything that is white and something else is described, generically, as a paint - the little black paint, or the yellow paint etc, etc, etc.

There are registers for Pintos, bit like CHAPS/ DHAPS/Palomino Society etc though in that anything that qualifies colourwise can be entered.
 
This was from a very horsey person i have a spanish and cob anyway spanish tried to eat the face of my cob I shouted at him dont eat your brother like that. I was asked are they really brothers just goes to show some really dont know breeds
 
rhino said:
Do you have any pics? Would be really interesting :) I always find it interesting looking at the different types of minis. Much prefer miniature ponies than horses, but purely because my friend used to have a driving pair and they were great fun! The 'horse' type seem to be only used for showing, which I can't say interests me much :D
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Here is Barney. It's all to do with the processes in the spine apparently. He is 10hh. I am not generally keen on minis especially when you see the poor conformation of some with dreadfully weak hocks. I would not describe Barney as a mini, but he is part Falabella and that breed is a minature horse and actually not as small as people imagine. Some falabella stallions are 42" to 45" tall.

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Barney has been ridden and driven. He doesn't have the best conformation and is prone to laminitis. Beacuse he is so fine he could only ever carry a max of 4 stone.He is typical falabella in that he is very quirky - he really picks his human friends and is quite nervy with humans, but was amazing to drive as nothing apart from people fazed him. He is 22 years old now - I have owned him since he was rising 3 yrs :) I do not have a digital pic of my little grey Gemini who sadly passed away.
 
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I have been asked a number of times before if my brown New Forest is a Connie? Because apparently he's too pretty to be a NF!
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I get this repeatedly from all & sundry & most worryingly M&M judges re my pale dapple grey Forester. I suppose it is a compliment in a way as a Connie that looks like him would be expensive & posh:):)
 
I was regularly asked if mine was a cob or had cob in him, I used to get offended, but then laughed at their ignorance, he was out of a 3/4 TB with a 1/4 shire dam, and his father was Marius (Oldenburg/Holstein) he was half brother to Milton, he was met with 'Ah's' and Bless him' at the collecting ring, followed by 'Oh he can jump!' then as we came out of the ring, I lost count the amount of times I was asked if he was for sale, my standard reply, sorry no I don't sell my best friend. It was easy to be smug with him, I swear that horse used to take pleasure in thrashing the competition, I lost him at 31 last year, he was a very old man, still cheeky and he had a 10 year retirement didn't begrudge a single penny spent on that lovely boy, he was an absolute darling!
 
Re miniatures.

1) There have been sub 34" shetlands since the dawn of the shetland pony stud book. A correct miniature shetland should look like a shetland.
2) Dwarfism is not the cause of miniatures. It is a defective gene that causes deformities. It is also present in the Friesian breed, I believe. The problem is with dwarfism and miniatures is that unscrupulous breeders breed from the dwarfs because a mild dwarf will look relatively normal and will be smaller. A 'correct' miniature shouldn't be a dwarf, and a proper breeding programme should not throw dwarfs even by accident.
3) Anything over 34" is not technically a miniature. There are overheight sections to the British Miniature Horse register but that is purely to keep the 'near misses' on the books. The overheight registry was also set up to help with American exports/imports as some of the overheight horses qualify as miniatures under the AMHA regs because the Americans measure from the base of the mane not the withers. Nb I am aware that the BSPS call their 'under 42"' register a miniature register, but that does not make the 34" to 42" ponies miniature horses.
4) British Spotted Ponies are high % native and they are very much ponies. The spotty gene was floating around in some welsh ponies, and although it does not meet the welsh breed description, the spotty breeders have kept it going and cherished it. The larger ponies tend to be high % welsh/British Riding Pony and the smaller ponies tend to be high % welsh/shetland. It's the welsh A in them that makes them look leggier, but they are still ponies. There are also spotty genes in the falabella breed, but falabellas and their crosses are not eligible for full papers with the BSPS. They need at least 87.5% British Spotted Pony, British Native Pony or British Riding Pony blood to be classed as a British Spotted Pony.

Re Warmbloods. They are high % TB and arab (albeit with a strict entry criteria). Heck, Traks are virtually anglo arabs.

Breeds and breeding does get a bit bonkers and political ;)
 
With regards to spring feather it's not all about what I paid for the actual horse but the things which went along with it ( Im not talking about monthly upkeep) also however much this cost is not any of anyone else's buisness and is insignificant to the original thread. Also what may be "expensive" to one may not be to another ..no I'm not talking £5 :p also she does have fairly large ears her sire is roberto who is a home bred stallion who has ramiro lines and her dam is winova again a homebred mare with weltmeyer lines
 
To be fair you set yourself up for that

I bought my welshie for £150 and spent another £850 getting him right. That doesn't mean he cost a grand

If you'd have used the word valuable rather than expensive you would have been ok I think!
 
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