Shocked and upset by a man while out walking. What would you do?

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I've just got back from walking Gem and Charlie Brown in the forest. I let both dogs off the lead and they where having a lovely time running round and playing. There was a man walking two other dogs off the lead and his dogs came over to say hello. I let them say hi then called my two to carry on. The next thing I know there is another man with two dogs one off the lead and one on. Charlie ran over to see the man but before I could call him back the man had kicked Charlie. He must have kicked him quite hard as he flew up in the air and flipped over. :mad: Charlie came running back to me and before i could say anything the man was gone.
I realy wish I had seen the man as he has kicked charlie once before. The trouble with the little fella is he is so friendly and wants to say hi to everyone. We meet loads of people out on the forest and all the others are so friendly. I realy don't see what this guys problem is. Gem runs over but funnily enough he doesn't kick the german shep. :rolleyes:
Anyway what would you do? I think from now on I will take my camera and if i see the bloke again i'll video him kicking charlie then maybe go to the police? Should I put a letter through the mans door/go and see him? (I know where he lives) Am I the one in the wrong? Or am I just over reacting?
I hope this post makes sence. I'm having a bad day anyway and this has just left me totaly in shock. :(
 
Was the dog on the lead aggressive? Maybe he was just trying to stop your dog getting hurt by getting to close to his. No excuse to kick him though....
 
But Charlie wasn't attacking his dog. His other dog came over to the dog i had on the lead. Should I have kicked his dog?
If Charlie had been agressive I would have understood and atleast you asked the owner to recall his dog. I had no warning, no chance for recall he just kicked the little fella and walked off. :( It happened so quickly.
 
Nicki85 said:
Was the dog on the lead aggressive? Maybe he was just trying to stop your dog getting hurt by getting to close to his. No excuse to kick him though....
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Maybe but shorly he should tell me that if he was a decent person? But to just kick someone elses dog and walk off i'm shocked anyone could do that and as I said he didn't kick Gem.
 
My guess is that the dog he had on the lead was aggressive with other dogs and he was getting Charlie away from being hurt. There is a lovely very friendly bull terrier that walks near me, unfortunately he isnt under control and (bless him) always comes over to say hello. This is a real issue for me because I have one dog that can be dog aggressive, she is always recalled and on lead approaching other dogs (I actually usually recall all my dogs and put them back on lead when I see other dogs coming). The owner of this dog though never recalls it I take it becasue she knows hes friendly...unfortunately because he is friendly wont stop my lurcher ripping his face off if the mood takes her. I now have to muzzle Tilly when walking just because of this one dog, I cant risk loosing control of her or not being able to get the other dog away from us. I've not had to kick the dog in question, a gruff growl usually keeps him just far enough away but I would kick him (or at least push him away with my foot) to stop him getting severly injured. The owner has no excuse not to control him and recall him away. I know he is being friendly but no doubt if he wanted to cross a main road in the path of a bus to go and be friendly to someone she would attempt to recall him! I only let my dogs approach off lead dogs (in the presumption that they are friendly) if I see people with a dog on lead I always put mine back on lead. I know you didnt see the man with the dog on lead coming, sometimes these situations are unavoidable, I'm not blaming you but just saying that I would suspect he was just trying to keep Charlie away from his dog. However if hes using excessive force to do so this is not on at all.
 
While there is no excuse for kicking Charlie, I agree that the dog on lead was probably on lead for a reason.

As mentioned, ad nauseum, my fella is not great with all other dogs so stays on a lead, if other dogs front up to him, he will have a go back, so while it is lovely to socialise our dogs, if I see a dog approaching in a way I know will set him off, I always call a warning to other people that my dog is sharp and can they recall please, if they have no recall (they shouldn't be off the lead without recall) then depending on their body language, I will keep moving or stand over/in front of my own dog so that the owner can come and collect theirs.

I hear the 'but they are so friendly' thing all the time - that does not mean all dogs are friendly, my dog is fine with proper introduction and if the dog is polite, but if another dog gets all up in his face unbidden he will get annoyed.

If you know where he lives maybe pay a visit with your OH and ask him to explain his actions?
 
I'll go and see the bloke with my OH and see why he feels the need to kick charlie.
Maybe i'm over reacting but I realy do feel I should know why he does it. If he's trying to protect charlie sort of fair enough but the kick he gave today was abit excessive. Next time I see him I'll put charlie on the lead till he's gone away.
The little fella seems non the worse for the ordeal. It's just me whos abit shaken up.
 
LauraWheeler said:
I'll go and see the bloke with my OH and see why he feels the need to kick charlie.
Maybe i'm over reacting but I realy do feel I should know why he does it. If he's trying to protect charlie sort of fair enough but the kick he gave today was abit excessive. Next time I see him I'll put charlie on the lead till he's gone away.
The little fella seems non the worse for the ordeal. It's just me whos abit shaken up.
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Laura, Sounds like a good idea.

I'd probably approach the conversation along the lines of "sorry about earlier. I didn't see you until it was too late & my dogs had already come up to you. Was there a problem? etc... What can we both do differently next time we meet so that this doesn't happen again?"

Perhaps you can suggest a proper dog introduction?

You want the conversation to be productive, so the last thing you need is for you to be on the attack (not saying that you would be) or for him to be defensive.

Good luck.
 
davisn said:
Laura, Sounds like a good idea.

I'd probably approach the conversation along the lines of "sorry about earlier. I didn't see you until it was too late & my dogs had already come up to you. Was there a problem? etc... What can we both do differently next time we meet so that this doesn't happen again?"

Perhaps you can suggest a proper dog introduction?

You want the conversation to be productive, so the last thing you need is for you to be on the attack (not saying that you would be) or for him to be defensive.

Good luck.
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This, if someone knocks at YOUR HOUSE, you would already be on the defensive and I think it is going to be bery hard make it productive from the start. Also if you know where he lives does he know where you live etc?

Play it calm and cool and if hes an ******* then report him.

Good luck
 
IT's common courtesy not to let your off lead dog run up to an on lead dog. Are you sure he kicked him as opposed to kicked at him?
The on lead dog probably had a reason it was on the lead (expec. since other one was off lead). For all you know if could have been aggressive/dog nervous etc.
You need to call your dog back next time and then you won't have this issue would you. Off lead dogs-= yous can stay off lead.
On lead=yours on lead or under close control.
 
I would be very tempted to kick anyone who kicked my dog - in fact, I think my OH definitely WOULD kick someone who kicke dhis precious Purdey:D:D
However, that said, if I see a dog on the lead coming towards us, I make Purdey heel or divert her away from the dog. I wouldn't let her approach a dog on a lead at all.
 
Laura, try not to let this incident upset you. As other posters have said, he could've have been protecting your dog from his and the man may well be at home telling his other half that this little dog came racing over & he panicked & kicked out a bit too hard..... or he could just be an ******** who's just as unsociable as his dog. Either way, Charlie is fine & forgotten about it. Put it down to experience & keep an eye out for this guy on future walks & avoid.:)
 
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