Shocked at H+H advice not to wear too much hi-viz

Ceris Comet said:
Devestated....youngsters and no hi-viz..hope you're proud of yourselves hh...
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I think that is a little OTT. I agree the comment and further response when poorly thoughtout and down right irresponsible, but I don't think they can then be responsible for an accident (where you have no idea if the riders read the article or where influenced by it). I feel sorry for all involved they have just learned a very hard lesson and RIP horse/pony.
 
Horrific sounding accident poor horse & people- were the other horses ok?

I hate those trailers and loan horse is scared of them as they rattle and bounce up and down.
 
shysmum said:
OMG that's terrible :(. Let us know what you find out - it could so easily have been the kids I saw out last night.

The fact is that if the horse had to be shot, it was still alive after impact, and most probably would have been in incredible pain, terrified and suffering. That is the reality. Fact.
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Id prefer to think it was in complete shock if so badly injured and hopefully unaware of what was happening
 
This is an horrific accident, these poor kids will be distraught their horse being killed in such horrendous circumstances, my thoughts are with them and their familys and the owner of the horse, so sad
 
CC your statement that this accident proves hi viz saves lives is absurd. How can you possibly tell if the wearing of a hi viz jacket would have had any bearing whatsoever on the outcome of a terrible accident?!

It's an awful shame the accident happened but you guys harping on immediately about it beig because of a lack of hi viz and even questioning it at the scene (shame on you) are exactly the reason H&H had reason to suggest some people get a little OTT and sanctimonious regarding hi viz.

You're coming across like hi viz terrorist extremists!! :D

NB not a blanket labelling there to all recent posts but I imagine you know who you are if reading this...and will prob jump down my throat shortly...
 
true dragon said:
NO ONE LARGE MERCY, THE KIDS ARE ALL FINE... ALTHOUGH NO DOUBT IN DEEP DEEP SHOCK THIS EVENING.
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Their young worlds have certainly changed very quickly... Thank goodness they are uninjured although I would imagine they'll find the events traumatic and shocking for a good while... :(

Not sure if I've missed it, but did the driver remain at the scene?

Ceris Comet said:
Devestated....youngsters and no hi-viz..hope you're proud of yourselves hh...
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In all fairness...there's nothing to suggest that the youngsters' choice was influenced by H&H or that the use of hi viz would would have prevented this accident... Hopefully H&H will take such tragic circumstances into account though and become a tad more proactive in support of the wearing of hi viz...
 
My god, this thread is verging on hysteria. To say you hope H&H is proud of itself is utterly ridiculous.
A very tragic accident has happened, and that is awful, but H&H did not at any point suggest riding without Hi Viz was a good idea. There is s ridiculous frenzy being whipped up here. A terribly sad accident and some people are having a ball with it. Disgusting attitudes wrapped loosely in concern. Sorry but this whole thing is beginning to stink suspiciously to me.
 
How on earth anybody can say having hi viz on would have prevented this accident is beyond me!
My thoughts are with all concerned at what must be a very upsetting time :(
 
Hi vis wouldn't have made a difference in this instance as the driver had seen the horse and was passing them, when the horse spooked and was hit by the trailer. But hi vis should be worn always when out on the roads IMO.
 
Nah said:
Ok, I think this one is my favourite :D
Totally right about the gloves. Really tops it off!

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Haha I love it :D
 
So sad, but i to cannot ser how you can blame it on lack of hiviz ( and remember h&h do recommend even in that article that recommends you so not feed ) Sounds to me like it was the creaky trailer the horse spooked at not the fact the driver could not see them, unfortunately even when they do see you a lot of people are ignorant the horse is an animal and treat it like they do bike and do not slow down.
I hate riding on the roads for that reason, you are never safe.
Rip poor horsey :(
 
Ceris Comet said:
Unfortunately, the accident proves the whole point of this thread.
Hi-viz saves lives .
Thoughts are with the poor ponies owners
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No it doesn't. None of us know exactly what caused the accident and personally I think your comments are insensitive. I know you're on a mission, but did you have to drag this good natured thread down in this way? I hope those involved never read it, whether or not lack of high viz was a contributing factor I'm sure lessons were learned. They will never forget what happened that day.
 
Very sad for the horse and children involved in the tragic accident.
Does highlight how vulnerable we are on the roads.

On a positive note, Nah, Those pictures are absolutely fantastic! Good on ya! :D
 
We hack out it that area on an almost daily basis and do always wear hi vis. It doesn't make one iota of difference, it's not passing wide and slow that's the problem. When will drivers get the message!
 
Black_Horse_White said:
Hi vis wouldn't have made a difference in this instance as the driver had seen the horse and was passing them, when the horse spooked and was hit by the trailer. But hi vis should be worn always when out on the roads IMO.
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ive also heard that the vehicle was being driven at excessive speeds, the trailer was empty and banging around.... although at the moment its just all bits of conflicting info ive picked up from FB so can be 100% sure of the details

just shows we need more bridleways in the Audley/newcastle under lyme area !!!!
 
Black_Horse_White said:
We hack out it that area on an almost daily basis and do always wear hi vis. It doesn't make one iota of difference, it's not passing wide and slow that's the problem. When will drivers get the message!
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i hack in the area too on a daily basis and i have to say that i get more respect from drivers when i wear hi viz. they really do seem to slow down more. although you still do get the odd d!ck head who speeds past you no matter what your wearing. unfortunately these girls seem to have come across such a man.
 
I agree, Parklane is the worst lots of blind bends and a 60mph limit, ridiculous I've had 2 of my worse near misses riding down there. I heard that the horse is on loan which is terrible for all concerned. The driver apparently is a local well liked man so maybe it was just an unfortunate accident :-(
 
I was very distressed by the comments last night having been driving down that road at the time of the accident. This is a public forum, stop and think before you post. It's not the time to score points for this topic, quite frankly Hi viz wouldn't have made a difference. The real issue in the area is the lack of bridlepaths and the speed of traffic.

Having recently moved to a near by village, I scoured the area for decent livery near bridlepaths. There is none. Riders in the Newcastle Under Lyme and Cheshire border ride on roads daily, that in 45 years of riding I would never have previously put a hoof on.
The choice is riding on A roads or winding narrow country lanes or nothing at all. There is not one single bridlepath within a 5+ mile radius of my yard.
 
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