Shocked at H+H advice not to wear too much hi-viz

but perhaps we would look smarter if we all hacked out in fawn coloured breeches and a tweed jacket, sporting rather fetching headscarfs instead of crash hats? .... Perhaps Miss Makadaisey (or whatever she's called) is trapped in some kind of sentimental timewarp, wishing she were back in the 1950s?
 
lannerch said:
Cumulative effect though that's not necessary unless of course your riding in low light in which case you really shouldn't be riding on the roads at all.
You can either be seen or not and if wearing a tabbard with or without the trimmings you will be seen!
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Not necessarily - if there are high hedges and a relatively small horse or pony, your head may be visible before your body - hence my hat band.
 
What a truly idiotic statement! The author was clearly saying rubbish for effect, but what was the H&H editor doing that day? Having a nice snooze at the office? Considering re-naming the magazine the Daily Fail?
 
Lannerk and quirkey, perhaps you should ask the mounted police if they feel embarressed to be wearing to much hi-viz?

And then maybe ask the motorist who told me that he was so grateful that I'd bothered to spend the extra few minutes and £'s to make myself and my bay horse clearly seen. Ask him if he thinks I should be embarressed?

Or do you really need to ask at all?
 
Ceris Comet said:
I will " wind my neck in " when all riders accept that to save the lives of both them and their ponies they wear as much Hi-viz as it takes to save them from death on the roads. What's your agenda ?
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Are you for real?
I haven't got an agenda, unlike you :rolleyes:.

I choose when I ride out. I won't ride out in a low winter sun, if visibility is bad, if the light is failing, if there are copious tractors about.
I risk assess every time I hack out. I do not and will not put myself in unnecessary danger.
I am content that my hi viz tabbard is a sufficient warning to motorists.
 
I have to confess, I never wear hi-viz and only own one simple tab-bard from years ago when I had to ride down a quite country lane. :O

That said I have absolutely no roadwork, and the thought of riding on an actual road these days seems positively terrifying, not sure I'd even attempt it even in full hi-viz from head to toe.
 
didn't the BHS and the RAF have a joint venture a few years ago handing out flourescent tabbards to riders who live near RAF bases to make them more visible to raf pilots :confused:? obviously they don't think it's stupid and unnecessary and i think i'd rather trust the opinion of the BHS than a journalist in a magazine:p
 
Ibblebibble said:
didn't the BHS and the RAF have a joint venture a few years ago handing out flourescent tabbards to riders who live near RAF bases to make them more visible to raf pilots :confused:? obviously they don't think it's stupid and unnecessary and i think i'd rather trust the opinion of the BHS than a journalist in a magazine:p
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They did and I was one of the recipients of the free tabard and quarter sheet :)
 
Elsbells said:
Lannerk and quirkey, perhaps you should ask the mounted police if they feel embarressed to be wearing to much hi-viz?
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Do they :confused:?
If I look at the mounted police in the county I live in, they only wear a hi viz police jacket, not dissimilar to traffic police.
 
quirky said:
Are you for real?
I haven't got an agenda, unlike you :rolleyes:.

I choose when I ride out. I won't ride out in a low winter sun, if visibility is bad, if the light is failing, if there are copious tractors about.
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Sorry quirky, I'm really not trying to pick on you, but bright sunshine can actually be just as bad for visibility. Drivers squinting into the sun and the horse in a halo of light. Hence the advice to use a mix of colours (pink is very good in bright sunshine,yellow better on dull days) to ensure you are seen.

Just thought I'd say that for people who weren't aware. Whether you wear hi vis or not is up to you :)
 
Hate to say it folks, but my understanding is that hi-viz can be ineffective in low winter sun. Really have to take care to time rides or avoid routes where drivers could be dazzled.

Going back to the "pink", I do prefer yellow but its not very helpful when rape is in full bloom.
 
quirky said:
I'm with lannerch on this, can't really see the point in having more than a tabbard.

I see the 'lit up like a Christmas tree' hi-vizers as being nervous riders, rightly or wrongly, who want to draw as much attention to themselves as possible as they can't cope with traffic coming past at even a reduced speed.
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I'm definitely not a nervous rider, however even if i go for a potter down the lane i have a flourescent pink tabbard and a flourescent pink exercise sheet as well as flourescent wrist bands so the road users can tell when and which way i'll be turning. it isn't because i'm a nervous rider but because i have a spooky young horse that may or may not freak at a plastic bag or may or may not freak at the car that is going way too fast, and as much as i will try to stay on, you never know what the horse will throw at you therefore i would like to protect her and myself in case we got separated. i don't care if i look like a barbie freak, im a girl and my horse is a girl, i like pink, definitely prefer it to yellow or orange or green. so what that we look stupid, so what that the drivers may laugh at us, but when they do laugh at us they have to slow down to do that, so hey ho, i get what i want, i'm visible and the car has slowed down :D
 
quirky said:
t in a low winter sun, if visibility is bad, if the light is failing, if there are copious tractors about.
I risk assess every time I hack out. I do not and will not put myself in unnecessary danger.
I am content that my hi viz tabbard is a sufficient warning to motorists.
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how on earth can you risk asses when you hack out, you have no control over the traffic you may meet:confused: do you ever actually hack out?? if i avoided the possibility of meeting too much traffic or certain types of traffic i'd never get past the end of the farm track!
 
lannerch said:
And I second that quirky. A bit of common sense goes a long way :)
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indeed it does, and it's common sense to wear enough hi viz to make you easily visible:p a police hi viz jacket is rather more visible than a tabbard, thats why emergency workers and highway workers tend to wear jackets and not just a tabbard:)
 
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I usually wear a bit more that this, but can you imagine how well Ned and I would blend in?
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Haven't read all of this, and perhaps I am getting too old and ElfnSafety concious.

BUT what if you part company with your horse. You will be lying in the road nice and safe in your hi viz vest. Poor pony will be galloping along a country lane or dual carriageway with nothing at all. :eek:



And LOL at this, just what I was thinking :)

MissMincePie&Brandy said:
but perhaps we would look smarter if we all hacked out in fawn coloured breeches and a tweed jacket, sporting rather fetching headscarfs instead of crash hats? .... Perhaps Miss Makadaisey (or whatever she's called) is trapped in some kind of sentimental timewarp, wishing she were back in the 1950s?
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