Shocked at H+H advice not to wear too much hi-viz

One or two letters printed in H&H but no mention of the nearly 900 posts on this subject ......as expected they arent apologising for irresponsibility in the article although they are quick enough to tut tut at prof riders not wearing hats etc. Cop out!!

Think they should think again.

On a basic level, unless riders get high viz'd up and do everything possible to make drivers see them, it gives drivers and their insurance companies a great excuse to wriggle out of the legal consequences and making recompense when they crash into them.

It IS hard to see high viz as fashionable because its not that individual, so young riders who want to stand out dont want to wear a 'uniform. That makes it all the more incumbent on horsey publications to promote it.
 
Not really surprised H&H have not mentioned this thread specifically. It has become a frenzied, over the top hysterical attempt by some to be recognised in print by a very big publication. This thread started by pointing out that some people like to wear far more hi vis than others and felt safer by doing so, and that H&H had no right to ridicule them for doing so. I feel these people had a point. However it (this thread)has now become a joke to most people. 80+ pages but mostly contributed to by a very small group of people banging their drum, and shouting the odds. Why would H&H want to recognise a tiny % of self publicists. I agree with someone else who said this thread may have worsened the situation. In the real world H&H readership is huge, a few hysterical opinions spread over a large number of forum pages is not the general opinion.
My opinion FWIW, wear a hi Viz tabbard or jacket and leg wraps on horse. If you want more wear more. But don't try to ridicule a huge magazine. You'll just end up looking ridiculous, and alienate the kids we want to wear some hi Viz. After all, what self respecting young rider would wish to be associated with this circus.
 
Agree with Ribbons.

I don't think H&H would necessarily want new users to the forum to think that the main posters on here are indicative of HHO.

I guess if we had all toed the line and agreed with the antagonists, then this would have slipped off the page days ago.

Live and learn:)
 
quirky said:
Agree with Ribbons.

I don't think H&H would necessarily want new users to the forum to think that the main posters on here are indicative of HHO.

I guess if we had all toed the line and agreed with the antagonists, then this would have slipped off the page days ago.

Live and learn:)
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But you are keeping it on the first page now....
 
ribbons said:
Not really surprised H&H have not mentioned this thread specifically. It has become a frenzied, over the top hysterical attempt by some to be recognised in print by a very big publication. This thread started by pointing out that some people like to wear far more hi vis than others and felt safer by doing so, and that H&H had no right to ridicule them for doing so. I feel these people had a point. However it (this thread)has now become a joke to most people. 80+ pages but mostly contributed to by a very small group of people banging their drum, and shouting the odds. Why would H&H want to recognise a tiny % of self publicists. I agree with someone else who said this thread may have worsened the situation. In the real world H&H readership is huge, a few hysterical opinions spread over a large number of forum pages is not the general opinion.
My opinion FWIW, wear a hi Viz tabbard or jacket and leg wraps on horse. If you want more wear more. But don't try to ridicule a huge magazine. You'll just end up looking ridiculous, and alienate the kids we want to wear some hi Viz. After all, what self respecting young rider would wish to be associated with this circus.
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Either the magazine has a policy of publishing the top 5 threads of the week or it doesn't. To mention the thread with a misleading name is worthy of further criticism.

I don't know about hysterical but if I want to be in the top 5 (again! ;) ) I know exactly what to do, not exactly tough is it?? I LOVE ROLLKUR - there, that will keep the thread going for a wee while longer! ;) :D
 
Rollkur eeek!

Seriously though, as the OP of this thread, I'm really not concerned whether it makes the H+H top 5 again.

What I would really like though, is to see H+H publish the letter from the BHS.

I realise its not my decision to make, but can we ALL focus on this. Perhaps a new thread? Probably not by me as I am sure it was cause confusion with this thread.

The great news is that we all seem to be agreed that Hi-viz is a must.
 
I think there's a slogan somewhere. How about ...

BE SEEN - BE BERTIE :p:D

However there's a flaw with the slogan, and indeed with the relevance to the Bertie Bassett comment in H&H - Bertie Bassett actually wears just a black and white jumper, with yellow trousers and blue shoes!!! That's not very hi viz at all is it ? :eek:
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The RAF have asked time and again for people to wear reflective gear. The MOD gave away some gear a few years ago through the BHS. I've never had problems with low flying aircraft, but then I wear the gear.
 
Someone said to us today you have plenty of hi viz on (sarcastic tone), both riders had yellow jackets and I had a yellow quarter sheet and pink martingale tubes. Which is actually minimal for us as we weren't on the road much.

I wasn't in the mood for idiots and replied without thinking, that it was better to "be seen" than "be dead". That fairly shut him up :o:D
 
Such a long thread so apologies as I have not read most of it. Just wanted to say, I don't think you or your horse can wear too much hi-viz. In what way is wearinhg hi-viz mollycoddling anyhow, does it physically affect the horse as rugging etc does?:confused:
 
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