Omarkiam
Well-Known Member
Okay this is going to be long so I do apologise, I have even got up extra early to allow myself a good half hour to type it up!!
Was going to cut it short but for once I will give you the full story!!
I left my livery yard and took over my own, 12 acres of land 2 stables and forest hacking (twas perfect
) but then I was asked too leave by the land owner as she had decided after 2 weeks I was too young!
So she gave me 6 days to find a new livery, (I hadn't had a chance to sign a contract yet, lady is elderly and in her 70's and had spent nearly everyday at court since I had moved there for drink driving and illegal mushroom picking!), so I had no ''months'' notice as it were. She sent me an email threatening to release the horse if I were not to stick to aforementioned agreement and move within that time.
So as a result I got on with the search to no avail, and on the last day before the agreed move date, I found a 5 acre field, I was allowed up to 2 horses, and the grazing is terrible but luckily neither of mine actually need great grass, both living on fresh air, there is 1 lockup, 3 other horses in the field and no stable or school, for £80 for one horse or £100 for two, but there is direct forest hacking which is lovely, so I took this on without giving it a second thought as I didn't have much choice! Livery is so hard to come by in my area unless your prepared to pay minimum £250 a month.
I moved in straight away and the lady I am sharing with is lovely however... there are 3 other horses in this field, there is a yearling new forester, an almost 2 year old cross bred (no idea what breeds), and a SUPPOSEDLY 2 year old forester, who is just rising 2, but is 15hh already (Even from her face its fairly obvious she has tb in her!)
I came to do the feeds for the very first time yesterday, I have a hectic day to day schedule and I can't get down everyday too feed, and because they all need feeding together (yearling and 2 year old crossbred difficult to catch), some days I just cant do it at the right times.
So the sharer does it some days.
And oh my god it was HORRENDOUS, and I don't want to do it again, took me about half hour just to get a feed to each horse, with constant kicking and fighting, and feed stealing. The main route of the problems is the 2 year old ''new forester'' (x tb), I may be young but I have never in my time come across something so resiliant to any form of scaring. She is not bothered atall by a whip even if its used directly on her, she is not bothered by any form of ''scary stuff'', tarpaulin, loud noises, stamping the floor and growling, or waving arms about, she just stands there as if its not happening, and will happily walk all over you to get what she wants. She also is not bothered by electric fencing and stands against it whilst its on completely ignoring the fact it hurts, she walks through it when its on, time and time again.
That was bad enough, but then she kicked the 2 year old cross bred in the face, and then ran at her full speed and sent her flying, poor little mite rolled straight over on her back, and I was just stood there horrified, unsure what I should do other than check aforementioned pony was ok.
The problem is, my tb has been lame due to missing a shoe and a fall he had, but is now almost better, he gets pushed out by that mare quite alot, and he hasn't fought back to gain his place in the herd because he has been lame, but now he is almost better when she goes for him he really kicks, and I am waiting for the moment when she pushes him too far and gets a kick in the face, and I get landed with a vet bill.
I cant afford too section it off as it means buying alot of fence posts, and on top of that the 15hh nf x tb doesnt actually go for my two very often, its more the little one that belongs to them.
So last night after feeding I text her, I said in the kindest way possible '' I really dont mean to upset or offend you but I think you really should start teaching some basic groundwork respect with Daisy, I have never had such a hard time feeding, and she knocked Willow clean over onto her back''.
Was I wrong too have said that to the owner?
I have seen first hand recently what a kick over feeding time can lead too, my poor friends pony was put to sleep.
I explained that I have first hand experience of the consequences and that if she doesn't learn respect she will become dangerous, she has admitted not having a youngster before but refuses to get on and start some light work with her, other people have said to her about it but she seems too blank them. And now she has said she will just move the nx x tb, leaving me too afford a 5 acre field on my own, so once again I am stuck in a rut and not sure whether I was right too say something and what I am supposed to do now!
I have sent a total of 6 text messages apologising profusely and explaining that I do not want to see any horses get hurt
Was going to cut it short but for once I will give you the full story!!
I left my livery yard and took over my own, 12 acres of land 2 stables and forest hacking (twas perfect
) but then I was asked too leave by the land owner as she had decided after 2 weeks I was too young!So she gave me 6 days to find a new livery, (I hadn't had a chance to sign a contract yet, lady is elderly and in her 70's and had spent nearly everyday at court since I had moved there for drink driving and illegal mushroom picking!), so I had no ''months'' notice as it were. She sent me an email threatening to release the horse if I were not to stick to aforementioned agreement and move within that time.
So as a result I got on with the search to no avail, and on the last day before the agreed move date, I found a 5 acre field, I was allowed up to 2 horses, and the grazing is terrible but luckily neither of mine actually need great grass, both living on fresh air, there is 1 lockup, 3 other horses in the field and no stable or school, for £80 for one horse or £100 for two, but there is direct forest hacking which is lovely, so I took this on without giving it a second thought as I didn't have much choice! Livery is so hard to come by in my area unless your prepared to pay minimum £250 a month.
I moved in straight away and the lady I am sharing with is lovely however... there are 3 other horses in this field, there is a yearling new forester, an almost 2 year old cross bred (no idea what breeds), and a SUPPOSEDLY 2 year old forester, who is just rising 2, but is 15hh already (Even from her face its fairly obvious she has tb in her!)
I came to do the feeds for the very first time yesterday, I have a hectic day to day schedule and I can't get down everyday too feed, and because they all need feeding together (yearling and 2 year old crossbred difficult to catch), some days I just cant do it at the right times.
So the sharer does it some days.
And oh my god it was HORRENDOUS, and I don't want to do it again, took me about half hour just to get a feed to each horse, with constant kicking and fighting, and feed stealing. The main route of the problems is the 2 year old ''new forester'' (x tb), I may be young but I have never in my time come across something so resiliant to any form of scaring. She is not bothered atall by a whip even if its used directly on her, she is not bothered by any form of ''scary stuff'', tarpaulin, loud noises, stamping the floor and growling, or waving arms about, she just stands there as if its not happening, and will happily walk all over you to get what she wants. She also is not bothered by electric fencing and stands against it whilst its on completely ignoring the fact it hurts, she walks through it when its on, time and time again.
That was bad enough, but then she kicked the 2 year old cross bred in the face, and then ran at her full speed and sent her flying, poor little mite rolled straight over on her back, and I was just stood there horrified, unsure what I should do other than check aforementioned pony was ok.
The problem is, my tb has been lame due to missing a shoe and a fall he had, but is now almost better, he gets pushed out by that mare quite alot, and he hasn't fought back to gain his place in the herd because he has been lame, but now he is almost better when she goes for him he really kicks, and I am waiting for the moment when she pushes him too far and gets a kick in the face, and I get landed with a vet bill.
I cant afford too section it off as it means buying alot of fence posts, and on top of that the 15hh nf x tb doesnt actually go for my two very often, its more the little one that belongs to them.
So last night after feeding I text her, I said in the kindest way possible '' I really dont mean to upset or offend you but I think you really should start teaching some basic groundwork respect with Daisy, I have never had such a hard time feeding, and she knocked Willow clean over onto her back''.
Was I wrong too have said that to the owner?
I have seen first hand recently what a kick over feeding time can lead too, my poor friends pony was put to sleep.
I explained that I have first hand experience of the consequences and that if she doesn't learn respect she will become dangerous, she has admitted not having a youngster before but refuses to get on and start some light work with her, other people have said to her about it but she seems too blank them. And now she has said she will just move the nx x tb, leaving me too afford a 5 acre field on my own, so once again I am stuck in a rut and not sure whether I was right too say something and what I am supposed to do now!
I have sent a total of 6 text messages apologising profusely and explaining that I do not want to see any horses get hurt
As for not saying anything by text, in an ideal world I agree but we don't all have time for that.. I think perhaps you should have called her, but either way you were right to say something. I have to agree that if the text was as blunt as you say I probably would have cried. But I am a wimp! I share private facilities with one other girl who I adore, but we made a pact that as soon as something peed one of us off, we'd just come out with it. That way, no misunderstandings and no built up tension.
) when sharing a field with other people's horses I take MINE OUT whan I feed mine. Even if it means having to stand there for half an hour holding the leadrope outside the field gate whilst the horse eats its ration in safety. Boring, but safe. 
