Should I refund my sharer for this week?

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maletto

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quick one - my horse is lame and i'm giving him a week off while I wait for the therapist to come see him on Saturday.

I texted my sharer and told her so and she was fine with it.

Do I give her her £15 back for the week as she's been unable to ride?
 
Isn't it just part of having a horse? I think it is kind of you to consider it, but the costs and care of a horse and the same wether off or working.
 
No not if you are sharing the horse and it's care, these things happen and you can't just stop paying for your horse because it's lame, it's part and parcel of having a horse.
I'm sure your sharer understands this. If she pays to ride only then might be a little different. Does she pay for the ride share, or does she care for him too?
 
When Nadia went lame and my sharer couldn't ride I did not charge her anymore. Nadia was on box rest and she still did her days and that was a massive help to me.
 
Just because you own the horse a sharer is a sharer in every way.

If your horse was sick or lame would you stop paying livery or feeding them NO you would continue.

You have to look at the reason you took a sharer on and then choose if they were a sharer to help pay for the upkeep or just to ride.
 
I wouldn't but maybe give her half back or as someone else said offer her a bit more riding when she is back in work
 
If it was months of box rest, I wouldn't expect a sharer to keep paying, as ultimately their motivation is to ride. But for a week I wouldn't refund. That's the difference between sharing and hiring from a school.
 
In theory no, share means share. But.....sharer has the option to walk!

For a week off I wouldnt, but any longer than that I prob would refund her. After all, they are not a co owner of the horse, they share its use in return for ££ and or chores. No use of it, then the other side of the equation is paying to muck out...not most peeps ideas of a good deal.

Its better if this scenario is covered in the sharer agreement up front as its bound to happen at some point.
 
Gosh, would people actually think like that? I didn't ride my share/ part loan for 2 months last winter, due to snow and ice, and then he bruised his sole when the snow was gone. I wouldn't have dreamt of stopping paying or expecting a refund. To be honest i did think after 4 months of hardly riding/ light road work that i would have to stop sharing him if he didn't come sound soon. But he did. And we had a fab summer together. It's part of horses, they all break from time to time. I just used my time to get to know him better and spend quality time together.
 
If I was your sharer and you made such an offer to me, I would think it was really sweet but I would turn you down:) I tend to get quite attached to horses I share (which is why I don't do it anymore!) so I'd want to contribute towards getting him better.
 
No you shouldn't. You still have to 'keep' the horse whilst it it on rest & it will be there for the sharer when box rest is over....

My sharer broke her arm last year & harsh as it sounds I still asked for her to pay as she still expected the horse to be available for her to ride when she was out of plaster. I still had hoes, feed & livery to cover...... Its what having a horse is all about.
 
KelleWDHC said:
No, IMO a sharer is there to share the cost of the horse.
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And people wonder why sharers are hard to find :o


OP like Spudlet,I would apriciate the offer but turn it down.
Offering a refund would be a lovely gesture but I think most owners would not unless the horse was likely to be lame for a long time.

Most people will be sharers as a halfway between RS and owning and accept that shite happens :)
 
Spudlet said:
If I was your sharer and you made such an offer to me, I would think it was really sweet but I would turn you down:) I tend to get quite attached to horses I share (which is why I don't do it anymore!) so I'd want to contribute towards getting him better.
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I'm with this ^^^

As someone who has shared it wouldn't occur to me to ask for money back from the times I couldn't ride, nor would I accept an offer of the refund. However, I would think it very kind of the owner to be considering me and my wellbeing as well as the horse.

If this turned out to be a longer term problem I'd be much more inclined to stay with an owner who clearly thinks about me and is happy to negotiate, than one who's attitude was more along the lines of "tough luck, that's horses".

I hope your/horse's problems resolve themselves quickly
x
 
timefort said:
If this turned out to be a longer term problem I'd be much more inclined to stay with an owner who clearly thinks about me and is happy to negotiate, than one who's attitude was more along the lines of "tough luck, that's horses".
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Indeed, in fact the attitude outlined in the above quote is why I don't share any more - because owners take advantage of you.:(

Sadly, the owners of horses I have shared have clearly seen me as nothing more than a cash-cow, and a groom who pays for the privilege of doing much more than half the work (for ex, the last one NEVER poo-picked, so I ended up doing the lot - for two horses as well, as the horse I shared was kept in the same paddock as her mother's horse:mad:).
 
Tackytoe said:
No you shouldn't. You still have to 'keep' the horse whilst it it on rest & it will be there for the sharer when box rest is over.....
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You still have to pay keep because you choose to buy the horse to begin with,as it's owner you have a responsability towards it.
A sharer is "renting" the horse and does not have the same responsability.


Tackytoe said:
My sharer broke her arm last year & harsh as it sounds I still asked for her to pay as she still expected the horse to be available for her to ride when she was out of plaster. I still had hoes, feed & livery to cover...... Its what having a horse is all about.
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For an owner,yes. I would not expect a sharer to pay for 6 weeks or so waiting for a broken bone to heal.
For a share to work the arangement needs to suit both parties,bot just the owner ;)
A sharer is notsimply lucky to be allowed whatever riding you decide they may have-they are paying you for a service just like a client pays a RS.
 
Thanks all for your responses. That's what I figured but I wasn't sure if I was being tight about it!

She only comes down a couple of times a week and doesn't have to do any duties (other than pick hooves out, groom and do the things associated with him having been brought in from the field/taken out of his stable)

He's a fab horse and it's only £15pw. I'm hoping that the therapist will be able to fix him this weekend and then he'll only need a couple more days off (those will fall on "my" days) and so she'll be good to go next week.

I have to say I would never dream of asking a sharer to contribute if he was on prolonged box rest or something, that's just taking the mick!
 
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