Show v working bred

Clodagh said:
I'm one of those people who only looks at the pictures, although I may read it later, but they look like Tennessee walking horses!
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The pictures are pretty self explanatory, it's mostly the same dog and then other examples of different types.
The last slide shows dogs who manage an extensive workload, despite being posed into a show stack for the purposes of one picture.
 
It's really good, particularly the photos of the same dog in different stacks. So many people come out with the old "straight back v roach back" thing without realising how often it is just down to the handler, though as you say still plenty of problems to sort out in the breed. It also worries me how many people seem to think "straight back" equals good hips, whereas in reality many using that to sell pups don't bother scoring.
 
The pictures (not always the whole post) are now doing the rounds on GSD groups. However some people are leaving out the last slide, depicting healthy, shapely, excellent show graded, working dogs which have competed at regional, national and world and which are prepotent sires. I wonder why!!
 
CorvusCorax said:
The pictures (not always the whole post) are now doing the rounds on GSD groups. However some people are leaving out the last slide, depicting healthy, shapely, excellent show graded, working dogs which have competed at regional, national and world and which are prepotent sires. I wonder why!!
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Yes, I have seen the images but reading the text is very interesting thanks for sharing :)
 
I’ve skim read the text and I still have to say i hate how stacking makes them look. I hate them trotting with their hocks on the ground. It may be perfectly healthy but to me it is unattractive. I dislike showing anyway and when step one of how to stack is ‘put the collar directly behind his ears and pull its head up’ it doesn’t sound like something I would wish to do.
As I am never going to own a show type GSD my opinion is completely irrelevant!
 
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Clodagh said:
I’ve skim read the text and I still have to say i hate how stacking makes them look. I hate them trotting with their hocks on the ground. It may be perfectly healthy but to me it is unattractive. I dislike showing anyway and when step one of how to stack is ‘put the collar directly behind his ears and pull its head up’ it doesn’t sound like something I would wish to do.
As I am never going to own a show type GSD my opinion is completely irrelevant!
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In all fairness you won't often see GSDs shown like that in the Uk, although maybe some who favour the english type still do it. Most WGSL dogs are shown on a double link collar which sits low on the neck. I like to see a dog standing naturally but sadly some do still push them into shape, no idea why they think it looks better.
 
I didn't really post it to get people to love stacks and hock walking lol, more to show that a handler can push a moderately constructed dog - which the main focus of the article is - as are the working dogs, into a stack, for the purposes of a photograph. But the narrative has been around for a while, I know it's hard to change minds :)
 
Weirdly his front feet are a little flatter than I'd like and his claws don't wear down short enough for me naturally, he's like a cat when he jumps up!!
You should see his kennelmate's feet, lovely and tight and compact :)
But I do agree it's a bit of an issue/bugbear. People think I am nuts to notice ?
 
Clodagh said:
I really don’t like the snipey noses that are such a thing now. Not being rude to yours specifically and that did come across poorly! Mine are not bred for their looks but I like them to please my eye.
I like longer legs, Tawny is built like a cob and really wears herself out trying to be fast.
Ffee is perfect to me, except a little shallow through the jaw, if I breed from her it will be to a dog with a real old fashioned box head.
Right now on my phone I don’t have a profile shot.
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I know a dog not too far from you with a decent head and a full raft of good health tests!!!!!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10220905742614203&set=pb.1259323545.-2207520000..&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10220250481713090&set=pb.1259323545.-2207520000..&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218190309530073&set=pb.1259323545.-2207520000..&type=3 shows width of skull
 
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