Shwmae horse products

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Suppose one of the positives from this thread is the realisation that there are a few good companies making these body suits for horses.

I'd never heard of some of these small companies like Kernow for example, who, judging buy the customer endorsements are doing a good job. Snuggy hoods, I know from personal experience are excellent. Good quality and a realistic price.
 
Christmas Kia said:
Yep MSR and the other company that was mentioned above who has kindly donated items to make up for kiddies disappointments :) Dont get better service than that :)
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Really ? How kind.

I was wondering how these fleece things keep horses clean though. Doesn't wet mud and urine soak through because surely if the fabric was waterproof, it wouldn't be breathable enough to wear as a close fitting suit covering the horse from nose to hoof ?

I worry about these horses, apart from the danger of badly fitted hoods and legs, wouldn't the horse get itchy and uncomfortable.
 
dogatemysalad said:
Really ? How kind.

I was wondering how these fleece things keep horses clean though. Doesn't wet mud and urine soak through because surely if the fabric was waterproof, it wouldn't be breathable enough to wear as a close fitting suit covering the horse from nose to hoof ?

I worry about these horses, apart from the danger of badly fitted hoods and legs, wouldn't the horse get itchy and uncomfortable.
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You can get single skin tents that are waterproof and breathable, so a thin, close layer that is breathable and waterproof isn't impossible. However I would agree that fleece isn't usually waterproof, and waterproofing it would decrease breathability, so would be interesting to see what tests have been done.

I would be surprised if they were suitable for exercise, as was shown in the images.
 
I have a fleece waterproof exercise rug by Splash Clothing but I don't use it often as my horses get warm exercising which is why I was wondering.

Do shwmae claim their suits are waterproof and breathable or is the fleece just ordinary fabric and not tested for use on horses ?
 
dogatemysalad said:
I have a fleece waterproof exercise rug by Splash Clothing but I don't use it often as my horses get warm exercising which is why I was wondering.

Do shwmae claim their suits are waterproof and breathable or is the fleece just ordinary fabric and not tested for use on horses ?
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I dont know what Shwmae claim but as i used to use one of the same suppliers as them for fleece, i can confirm it is just normal fleece that is used for human clothing, i am not aware of a specific equine fleece. You can get different thicknesses but thats it really
 
I would imagine the owners of Black Caviar wouldnt have risked their horse in anything dangerous or non breathable so it must be perfectly possible to make such a thing but hopefully on a cheaper scale!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/jun/05/black-caviar-lycra-suit-ascot

I often wonder if it was these pictures that started the craze, I cant remember seeing a onesie before this hit the news
 
WelshD said:
I would imagine the owners of Black Caviar wouldnt have risked their horse in anything dangerous or non breathable so it must be perfectly possible to make such a thing but hopefully on a cheaper scale!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/jun/05/black-caviar-lycra-suit-ascot

I often wonder if it was these pictures that started the craze, I cant remember seeing a onesie before this hit the news
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I remember that. It's a compression suit made by a professional company. Don't think Shwmae's in the same league. :)
 
WelshD said:
I would imagine the owners of Black Caviar wouldnt have risked their horse in anything dangerous or non breathable so it must be perfectly possible to make such a thing but hopefully on a cheaper scale!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/jun/05/black-caviar-lycra-suit-ascot

I often wonder if it was these pictures that started the craze, I cant remember seeing a onesie before this hit the news
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A High Tech compression suit is very, very different to a cheap, tacky onesie made of cheap fleece and ill fitting
 
Shwmae claimed theirs was weather proof, same as snuggy I think ie not water proof but could be resistant or shower proof, I'd imagine a good wash in nik wax would work wonders for shower proof on a nylon hood of cheaper make ;)

The picture of the horse rolling in the snow and the snow clinging to the fleece made me cringe!!
 
chrisritch said:
A High Tech compression suit is very, very different to a cheap, tacky onesie made of cheap fleece and ill fitting
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I know and I have indicated that

It was more of an answer to the people who were wondering how a onesie could possibly be breathable regardless of fabric

I dare say the compression element of this suit added many many numbers to the price BUT it does prove that properly breathable material does exist and that a onesie can be made to fit correctly.

I guess I am trying to say that its not necessarily the idea that is flawed but more the execution
 
The compression suit does look expensive, I wonder how much ? Was it designed for air travel ?

Also wonder why the Shwmae onesie is so much more expensive than other companies who make fleece and lycra body suits and incidentally, look like a better product than shwmae's.
 
The compression suit is designed for travelling or recovery after exertion. They aren't 'breathable' as such, but the company say that, provided there is sufficient ventilation, the material is designed to be cool in hot weather and warm in cold weather.
They're not designed to be worn when lying down, so they're not for regular stabled use.
It also apparently draws moisture away from the skin.
They cost around $600 Australian dollars.
 
WelshD said:
I would imagine the owners of Black Caviar wouldnt have risked their horse in anything dangerous or non breathable so it must be perfectly possible to make such a thing but hopefully on a cheaper scale!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/jun/05/black-caviar-lycra-suit-ascot

I often wonder if it was these pictures that started the craze, I cant remember seeing a onesie before this hit the news
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I'm sure I've seen this photo somewhere on a Shwmae-related page - web, FB or otherwise . . . the inference being that they had something to do with it? Or am I making that up? It's possible I'm mistaken . . .

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I was a potential customer of Shwmae's. My daughter saw the onesie in her Facebook feed and wanted one for Christmas. I inquired on their page about price in dollars and received no response. I PM'd them on Facebook about sizing and pricing. Again no response. Because I was checking Facebook on their page for a response, I noticed some people asking where there shipments were and then the comments would disappear. I am a single mom and this would have been an expensive purchase for me as I suppose it is for anyone. So I Googled them and found this feed. It was early in the feed only a few pages but it made me question them. I inquired on their page about the forum and requested a response or a comment. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because things happen. I was immediately blocked and my comment deleted. As a potential customer, I feel I have the right to know about a companies practices and policies, their track record, their delivery and rerun policy, and quality of product. I am not in a position to send money for something and never receive it. Their reaction to my inquiry prompted me to research more and I am glad I never ordered. This information saved me a boatload of money and more importantly saved me from having to explain to my daughter that I spent all of her Christmas money on something she might never receive. The latter would have been far more sad and painful as a mom. People need to be able to make informed decisions when buying from a company but it is hard to do when comments are deleted and you can't get a true picture of what is going on. It is a shame too because there is obviously a market for these. So thank you to all who have shared their experiences and saved me some money and my daughter's Christmas.
 
Horseymom said:
I was a potential customer of Shwmae's. My daughter saw the onesie in her Facebook feed and wanted one for Christmas. I inquired on their page about price in dollars and received no response. I PM'd them on Facebook about sizing and pricing. Again no response. Because I was checking Facebook on their page for a response, I noticed some people asking where there shipments were and then the comments would disappear. I am a single mom and this would have been an expensive purchase for me as I suppose it is for anyone. So I Googled them and found this feed. It was early in the feed only a few pages but it made me question them. I inquired on their page about the forum and requested a response or a comment. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because things happen. I was immediately blocked and my comment deleted. As a potential customer, I feel I have the right to know about a companies practices and policies, their track record, their delivery and rerun policy, and quality of product. I am not in a position to send money for something and never receive it. Their reaction to my inquiry prompted me to research more and I am glad I never ordered. This information saved me a boatload of money and more importantly saved me from having to explain to my daughter that I spent all of her Christmas money on something she might never receive. The latter would have been far more sad and painful as a mom. People need to be able to make informed decisions when buying from a company but it is hard to do when comments are deleted and you can't get a true picture of what is going on. It is a shame too because there is obviously a market for these. So thank you to all who have shared their experiences and saved me some money and my daughter's Christmas.
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Sounds like you've had a lucky escape.
This is what the people involved with this company cannot understand about this thread, and others on other forums. It is not simply people ganging up on them. It is a valuable resource to enable people to make judgements based on GENUINE "customer feedback", something which is lacking on the company's FB page, because, as you have found yourself, they swiftly delete any negative or searching comments.
I am sorry your daughter has been disappointed, but glad for your sake that you voted with your feet.
There are quite a few other companies providing similar products over here, so perhaps you could do a bit of shopping around and surprise her? :)
 
One final reminder:

Do not do business with an internet company that will not display any contact information, eg a postal address on their website

A friend of mine posted a request for the address on their FB page & had the question deleted & was blocked....

Well done SMF - yet another way to lose clients..........
 
Wow ..... Just wow

I have spent ages reading this whole thread, and can honestly say this is one company I would steer clear of.

The way this company has conducted themselves is down right shocking. Customer Service/ Relations is just that - make the situation right by the customer who has given you their hard earned money not treat them like criminals or that you deserve to take their money off them and give them nowt in return

I have rarely come across a company so indifferent to their clients. If someone purchases an item either send them the item or refund their money. Simples. Don't make excuses, apologise and sort it

Certainly from making my own judgement from this thread, I wouldn't go within 100 yards
 
Thank you. I have looked at other companies. Sadly in the US there is nothing out there like this. Unfortunately sizing for my daughter's horse is an issue. I am not a seamstress by any means, but I was able to purchase a pattern from Suitability for a hood and blanket. I made some adjustments, sewed on some legs and my daughter was none the wiser. It is very sad though as there seems to be a large market and huge potential for this product globally. I hope everyone else gets their money back.
I just wanted people to know this helped me.
 
Horseymom said:
I am not a seamstress by any means,
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From some of the pictures I've seen of their products, I would imagine what you managed to produce was at least as good as something you could have potentially paid a lot of $ for.
As you say, there does seem to be a large market, so you would expect customers to be looked after a bit better.
Glad it helped you though. That is the main thing :)
 
I did email Snuggy Hoods but they didn't receive their US shipment in time for Christmas. They were very nice and apologized but I needed it for Christmas. Unfortunately my daughter has a warmblood that is huge, and very hard to fit. Thank you for the suggestion though:)
 
Oh quick find the troll spray! There has been a few new posters have posted since you were last here to stir up trouble BLUEALPACKA and they are fully entitled to their opinion without being accused of being jobless layabouts just because they have read and commented on this thread!! How bloody rude! I WILL NOT RESPOND TO YOU AGAIN AND HOPE OTHERS WONT EITHER!
 
Oh the blue one is back, hello and hopefully soon to be good bye as well. Insulting people is not a way of staying in this forum I thought you might have learned that by now.
 
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