Shwmae horse products

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FionaM12 said:
If you'd asked people not to stop expressing their opinion, no-one would object. ;)
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But why should I keep quiet because I don't like the childish comments, you have all had your opinions on the company, dealings, other peoples spelling etc, so why can't I say what I feel?
 
Well I'm not a new member so perhaps it would be OK for me to have an opinion!;):D

I do agree that some of this is going to far. I am all for a sensible thread about peoples experiences especially when hard earned cash could be lost.

However, some of this thread has started to become a bit silly.

Do we really need a running commentary of what is being posted on face ache? Surely those that are interested could follow this actually on that site?

Also, do we really need posts just to see who can get a particular numbered post?

There does seem to be the pack/clique mentality starting on this thread, which I don't think is necessary. The problems with the company in question have already been well documented - about 1000 posts back!

I'm surprised this is still going - with any luck it will be locked sometime soon.

Finally, I show:D I do not own a onesie (other than the nice m&s one I got at Christmas) I have no intention of ever buying one.

IMO dress circle rule and energy would be best spent stalking old ones of these on Ebay

Happy New Year to one and all:o
 
Lewbelle said:
Really, that is not the impression I get. Questions about how and why etc.
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You can't have formed an impression Lewbelle, because you are as far as I am aware the only 100% satisfied customer who has posted on this thread believably.

Which makes it all the more puzzling why you chose to criticize posters rather than to share your experience.

And unfortunately, by that and your subsequent posts you have seriously damaged any good that sharing your good experience could possibly have done the company.
 
cptrayes said:
You tell us what you thought you would achieve.

What you HAVE achieved is to bring new life and new attention to this thread which exposes Shwmae' s abominable customer service and appalling quality products.
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Well that might show some people that there are two sides to every story and Shwmae do have happy customers. I think that saying you have had a positive experience hardly "exposes Shwmae' s abominable customer service and appalling quality products" - does it?
 
Usually endorsements of a company come with a description of the customers experience. In your rush to insult people, you forgot to say why you feel so strongly about speaking out for Shwmae.

Have to say, while I've written the occasional positive review for an exceptional company, I've yet to feel so strongly that I'd go to the extent of joining a forum specifically to lambast those with a different viewpoint.
 
cronkmooar said:
Do we really need a running commentary of what is being posted on face ache? Surely those that are interested could follow this actually on that site?
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You have completely missed the point.

They are being deleted from Facebook almost as soon as they appear. The only record that they ever existed is on this thread, which is why I beg FAT not to lock it.
 
cronkmooar said:
Do we really need a running commentary of what is being posted on face ache? Surely those that are interested could follow this actually on that site?
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With regard to this point, Sadly, people who have commented on their FB page (a lot with polite, genuine queries etc) have been barred immediately, so a lot of the people posting on this thread probably can't see what's going on there.
I think that's the reason for posting across from there. It's the reason I've done a few anyway.

Happy New Year to you too :)
 
Lewbelle said:
Well that might show some people that there are two sides to every story and Shwmae do have happy customers. I think that saying you have had a positive experience hardly "exposes Shwmae' s abominable customer service and appalling quality products" - does it?
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But you did not do that.Your first post made no reference whatsoever to being a happy customer of the company.

When asked, you said that you were and EVERYONE has welcomed the first believable 100% happy customer experience on this thread.

It is the fact that you are the only one which is such an indictment of the company.

Why you chose to criticize posters as your introduction to the forum rather than support Shwmae is absolutely incomprehensible.
 
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cptrayes said:
You have completely missed the point.

They are being deleted from Facebook almost as soon as they appear. The only record that they ever existed is on this thread, which is why I beg FAT not to lock it.
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I have not missed the point at all.

I think it is unnecessary. If you search the company this thread and others on other forums comes up straight away so there is more than sufficient information available as to whether or not it is advisable to purchase from this company
 
SnowOnSnow said:
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You might like the two posters and that is fine, but you all seem to be downing me because I do not like childish comments and want to read facts. The last few pages have had my positive experience which is genuine and then a lot of posters not even on the subject of Shwmae products, I think you have all shown what Little Alfie was saying, mob rule maybe?
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Lewbelle said:
But why should I keep quiet because I don't like the childish comments, you have all had your opinions on the company, dealings, other peoples spelling etc, so why can't I say what I feel?
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You can. Of COURSE you can.
But you have to realise, as in all walks of life, that if you say things that are inflammatory or designed to put people's backs up, then they are more than welcome to respond.

IMO as ive already said, this poster came on the forum tonight to make it look as though any new poster with anything good to say will get leapt upon. Mission accomplished - by winding everyone up first and THEN talking about your good experience with Shwmae.

I suggest that people stop feeding the troll :)



Finally, Lewbelle, if you stick around, you will see that this is actually a very friendly and inclusive forum. Granted, kicking things off with insulting existing posters probably isn't the most diplomatic way to start, but if you look around you'll see that disagreements rarely get carried from thread to thread.
For example, I've disagreed with things cptrayes has said in the past, we may have even had crossed words over another subject (I forget!) but you click into the next thread, see their name with some helpful advice, and start afresh :)
So I look forward to seeing you around the forum, if you can be nice :)
 
MadBlackLab said:
we know shwmae have had happy customers and we not denying that. Its the behaviour of the company director on here and facebook and too customers that is the problem
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I would agree with you, however, some of the posts on this thread are now coming across as vindictive and credibility is being lost
 
cptrayes said:
Are you really missing the point that your own posts contained no facts at all until you were pressed to reveal them?


Oh the irony :)!!
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I was not pressed to reveal them, I was quite happy to tell you about my experience, but I can also comment on the childish behaviour if I so wish.
 
SnowOnSnow said:
Lol.

Who would welcome with open arms someone who wades straight in having a go at everyone and calling people childish, then adds that they like the company (after already riling everyone up) then shouts 'oh you just don't like me because I said I liked Shwmae!'

Ridiculous! And that makes us a 'mob?' Ok....
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I didn't realise a forum is a popularity contest - sorry
 
alliersv1 said:
You have had genuine personal experience of showing, which you were happy to "drop" into an unrelated post, but, despite another posters' genuine interest, you haven't been over to those relevant parts of the forum to share the experiences properly. Why is that?
Can't drag yourself away from here, can you?
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I will only talk about my GENUINE personal experience which is with LR SHP, I am not and have never claimed to be an expert.
 
Lewbelle said:
I was not pressed to reveal them, I was quite happy to tell you about my experience, but I can also comment on the childish behaviour if I so wish.
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Lewbelle you did not tell anyone about your good experience with the company until you were asked. Frankly, I find that a bit strange from a new poster joining a thread thread which has been very critical of a company of which you have a good experience, and I and others would happily use the word 'pressed' to describe that situation.


You can comment on what behaviour you wish. My own childish behaviour in posting to attempt to get post 1800 was designed specifically to keep this thread alive so that more people are aware of how Shwmae behave. I need not have bothered. You have done the job far better than any of us could have done.

I am extremely happy that Shwmae have one 100% happy poster on this thread.

Why only one?
 
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Lewbelle said:
Well that might show some people that there are two sides to every story and Shwmae do have happy customers. I think that saying you have had a positive experience hardly "exposes Shwmae' s abominable customer service and appalling quality products" - does it?
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Well done for having a positive experience :)

As I have mentioned before tho, it is NOT recommended to purchase from any on line company that does not supply a trading address on its website, end of.

For asking this (for postal address) on the 'S' FB page, a very good friend was not only barred, but had the comment deleted - and had a very nasty PM sent to her. (which was reported to FB as abuse) so a possible potential customer thrown away by the company owners (or their facebook mandarins)
 
Lewbelle said:
I didn't realise a forum is a popularity contest - sorry
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I give up.
People on this thread have been kind to you (I know I've tried!) despite your provoking posts.
But I think now, that you are determined to carry on stirring.
What a shame.

(Ps *whispers* if you deliberately set out to provoke or insult people...don't be too surprised when you succeed)
 
cptrayes said:
Then why did you not, until you were pressed to do so by other posters?

You made no reference to being a happy customer until you were asked.

If you comment about flippant behaviour because you have experience of it on every thread where there is flippant behaviour, then you'll be spending half your life posting this forum like I do :D
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I have not used the term flippant behaviour.
 
Lewbelle said:
But why should I keep quiet because I don't like the childish comments, you have all had your opinions on the company, dealings, other peoples spelling etc, so why can't I say what I feel?
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Eh? How has that got anything to do with my quote and response? Puzzled. Please read it again. :)
 
FionaM12 said:
Seems clear and fair to me. :)

Plus, coming in and telling people they shouldn't indulge in banter, must stick to "facts" and be serious is ludicrous. :)
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Could you please point out where I told people shouldn't indulge in banter etc, I have had an opinion that I do not like the childish comments and that seems to upset people.
 
cronkmooar said:
I have not missed the point at all.

I think it is unnecessary. If you search the company this thread and others on other forums comes up straight away so there is more than sufficient information available as to whether or not it is advisable to purchase from this company
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I disagree.

I think that their continuing to delete even mild posts on Facebook and blocking the posters says that the company have not mended their ways and that it is still not safe to order from them.

In their own interests, they need to stop doing that, and for the fact that they have stopped doing that to be openly recorded on this thread. Then they can start to rebuild their reputation.

I believe that it is very much in Shwmae' s interest for this thread to remain open to record their change of heart. Otherwise, it will be available for all time as an almost entirely negative picture of the company, when that may no longer reflect the true situation.
 
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mary christmas said:
Absolute nonsense, the op came in all guns blazing for others so has got back a bit of what she gave out
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I came in with an opinion, is this not the point of a forum? Also "the op came in all guns blazing for others so has got back a bit of what she gave out", this comments stinks of bullying, "He hit me so I will hit him" - so too speak.
 
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