Erehwemos
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Just wondering what people prefer, and why?
Snaffles - eggbutt or loose ring?
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StarFell
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Weird, I was just going to ask this lol. And do they have a different action?
soph21
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I prefer eggbutts. Pinchless
Erehwemos
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I prefer eggbutts. Pinchless
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This is why I have always used an eggbutt
But....a lady I rode out with the other day uses a loose ring as she says her horse 'cant grab hold of it as easily'. Is this true?
I prefer eggbutts. Pinchless
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This is why I have always used an eggbutt
But....a lady I rode out with the other day uses a loose ring as she says her horse 'cant grab hold of it as easily'. Is this true?
soph21
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ummm, I dunno lol, I spose it could be. The eggbutt is fixed.
Im rambling now... I'll shut up
Im rambling now... I'll shut up
charliesarmy
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I'd go eggbutt....
soph21
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I'd go eggbutt....
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For what reason?
I'd go eggbutt....
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For what reason?
scotsmare
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I like a loose ring as there is a bit more play on it
Damnation
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Loosering.
My mare had breaking issues in canter because she used to just grab hold of the bit and tank, she used to also lean really heavily on my hands, she was in an eggbutt snaffle.
She is in a loosering french link and she is lovely and soft in my hand. It isn't as hard for them to grab hold of a loosering snaffle because it isn't as fixed as an eggbutt.
I don't prefer either bit, I just use whatever works for the horse and a loosering works for my mare. Any form of fixed bit like an eggbut, hanging cheek or similar and she just grabs hold and tanks
My mare had breaking issues in canter because she used to just grab hold of the bit and tank, she used to also lean really heavily on my hands, she was in an eggbutt snaffle.
She is in a loosering french link and she is lovely and soft in my hand. It isn't as hard for them to grab hold of a loosering snaffle because it isn't as fixed as an eggbutt.
I don't prefer either bit, I just use whatever works for the horse and a loosering works for my mare. Any form of fixed bit like an eggbut, hanging cheek or similar and she just grabs hold and tanks
Erehwemos
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A question for those with loose rings - do you have to use rubber pads (cant think what they're called!) to stop the bit pinching the lips?
Damnation
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Bit rings? No, and my bit has never pinched my horse before. You can get pinchless looserings I think.
I will find a link in a minute
I will find a link in a minute
Damnation
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Link :
http://www.thesaddleryshop.co.uk/P/Loose..._bit-(785).aspx
When you look at it I think you can see why its pinchless. It has eggbut like sides to stop the pinching but it is still a loosering if you get me?
http://www.thesaddleryshop.co.uk/P/Loose..._bit-(785).aspx
When you look at it I think you can see why its pinchless. It has eggbut like sides to stop the pinching but it is still a loosering if you get me?
teapot
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I prefer eggbutts. Pinchless
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This is why I have always used an eggbutt
But....a lady I rode out with the other day uses a loose ring as she says her horse 'cant grab hold of it as easily'. Is this true?
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It's not fixed so when they go to grab hold of it, it moves. It's why some people use something like a cherry roller which moves even more to stop slightly hard mouthed horses from getting a hold.
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I prefer eggbutts. Pinchless
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This is why I have always used an eggbutt
But....a lady I rode out with the other day uses a loose ring as she says her horse 'cant grab hold of it as easily'. Is this true?
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It's not fixed so when they go to grab hold of it, it moves. It's why some people use something like a cherry roller which moves even more to stop slightly hard mouthed horses from getting a hold.
StarFell
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It's interesting how you say your mare is lighter in your hands in a loose ring, I found this today with Star. He was in a pelham but theres a dressage comp that I want to have a go at coming up soon, so I've been trying to get him back into a snaffle. I tried an eggbut and he was awful, really leaning and didn't seem happy with it. I borrowed a loose ring today and he was like a different pony
He was really light in my hands and went in a lovely outline
Jane_Lou
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Always loose ring and normally french link or with a lozenge. I have never had problems with them pinching. As Scotsmare says, there is more play with them.
soph21
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Link :
http://www.thesaddleryshop.co.uk/P/Loose..._bit-(785).aspx
When you look at it I think you can see why its pinchless. It has eggbut like sides to stop the pinching but it is still a loosering if you get me?
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OMG, a mate gave me this bit last year, and I started using it before Xmas, and Bear loves it!
Out of all the bits Ive tried, he goes fantastic in this!
I didnt want to post piccies of it and look like a numpty!
Link :
http://www.thesaddleryshop.co.uk/P/Loose..._bit-(785).aspx
When you look at it I think you can see why its pinchless. It has eggbut like sides to stop the pinching but it is still a loosering if you get me?
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OMG, a mate gave me this bit last year, and I started using it before Xmas, and Bear loves it!
Out of all the bits Ive tried, he goes fantastic in this!
I didnt want to post piccies of it and look like a numpty!
Damnation
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SuperStar - that is exactily what Poutu was like! She just used the eggbutt as a 5th leg and lent on it. If was horrible, she was so on the forehand, it was like holding up her whole front end! She is lovely in the loosering and we are starting to ask for more self carriage now, she is really progressing
Natch
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I prefer loose ring with rubber bit guards, it just feels like it has more softness when the horse is going lightly, but more control when they are pulling too! Used to always favour eggbutts but saw some of the weird angles it went to when doing apparently normal things ???
Ali2
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I generally prefer a loose ring with a lozenge for same reasons as stated by many posters above
JoJo_
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When I first changed my mare's bit from a hanging cheek snaffle to a loosering, I used bit guards to make sure it didnt pinch but after about 2 times using it she had sores on her cheeks from the bit guards rubbing. Now I dont use them but still use the loosering and I havent had any problem with pinching.
jumptoit
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I prefer loose ring but I'm moving to a hanging cheek so going to have to put up with it - loose ring just gives a less fixed feel down the rein imo.
Ashgrove
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I use a loose ring french link, nice and flexible, anything else and my horse becomes very wooden.
I don't use bit guards.
I don't use bit guards.
Pearlsacarolsinger
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Eggbut encourages horses to lean therefore more useful for 'stargazers' while loose ring discourages leaning, so it depends on the horse. If your horse tends to be on the forehand then loose ring is best. I like the look of the pinchless loose ring idea but really dislike the nutcracker action of single- jointed bits. Depending on the horse, I like to use mullen-mouthed bits or bits with a lozenge which accomodate the horse's tongue. I particularly dislike the combination of a single-jointed bit and a flash noseband, instruments of torture IMO as the flash holds the mouth shut while the bit pokes the soft palate and the horse can do nothing about it.
angiebaby
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Really interesting post; my new pony came with a french link eggbutt, he leans like mad and is very heavy, I'll try a loose ring
peanut
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My horse goes much better in a loose ring and I do always use bit guards.
CastleMouse
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It depends on the horse really...
Nats_uk
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I prefer eggbutts. Pinchless
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This is why I have always used an eggbutt
But....a lady I rode out with the other day uses a loose ring as she says her horse 'cant grab hold of it as easily'. Is this true?
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That is true - I used to ride in a full cheek and my horse used to grab hold of the bit when we did lateral work. My instructor made me swap to a loose ring and (after a small temper tantrum when he realised he coukdn't do it) he is much better in the lateral work and remains a lot softer in the mouth
[ QUOTE ]
I prefer eggbutts. Pinchless
[/ QUOTE ]
This is why I have always used an eggbutt
But....a lady I rode out with the other day uses a loose ring as she says her horse 'cant grab hold of it as easily'. Is this true?
[/ QUOTE ]
That is true - I used to ride in a full cheek and my horse used to grab hold of the bit when we did lateral work. My instructor made me swap to a loose ring and (after a small temper tantrum when he realised he coukdn't do it) he is much better in the lateral work and remains a lot softer in the mouth
harrihjc
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Link :
http://www.thesaddleryshop.co.uk/P/Loose..._bit-(785).aspx
When you look at it I think you can see why its pinchless. It has eggbut like sides to stop the pinching but it is still a loosering if you get me?
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OMG! After months of searching I have finally found a mullen mouth hanging cheek after clicking on that link! I might finally be able to do a dressage test on mr 'I will not work nicely in anything but a pelham'!
Link :
http://www.thesaddleryshop.co.uk/P/Loose..._bit-(785).aspx
When you look at it I think you can see why its pinchless. It has eggbut like sides to stop the pinching but it is still a loosering if you get me?
[/ QUOTE ]
OMG! After months of searching I have finally found a mullen mouth hanging cheek after clicking on that link! I might finally be able to do a dressage test on mr 'I will not work nicely in anything but a pelham'!
DiablosGold
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My horse goes better in an eggbutt simply because he 'plays' and fiddles with the bit, in a loose ring it's much worse and he puts his tongue over the bit.
Hippona
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Loose ring...with a Revolver...Jeffries I think it is....my horse jogs and a light touch is needed...he cant get hold of this, he is very light and soft ....I love it.....