Snobbery in the horse world and happy hackers.

It never ceases to amaze me that when someone posts on here and generally insults many, the many rise up to defend themselves, the original poster cries somewhat, then others start playing the bully card....?

Either THINK before you post then you won't get in this mess OR as Lionman says, grow some balls and suck it up...
 
Spring Feather said:
I have a life which is why I don't come on here very often :) I never got rude or personal either, I just went :eek: in a jocular fashion, which apparently judging by the outraged PM you just sent me, the joke flew right on by you. BTW Websites are for advertising, so if you don't want people to look at yours then take it off your signature.
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I could see that your post was jokey and light-hearted SF. But I think Dressagelove was probably feeling so "got at" by then she couldn't see it that way!

Dressagelove, if I were you I'd go offline for a while, have a cup of tea and calm down. Most of us are NOT having a go. :)
 
Yes , I have gotton a bit hysterical, I have been given a stern talking to by my OH, and am calming down. Im sorry Spring Feather, it did completely pass me by that you were being ironic. Thanks Fiona M, x
 
Dressagelover, just a little hint, not having a go. But you way too much personal info on your website. The only thing missing is your bank details. Id be changing a fair bit of it tbh :)
 
dressagelove said:
Yes , I have gotton a bit hysterical, I have been given a stern talking to by my OH, and am calming down. Im sorry Spring Feather, it did completely pass me by that you were being ironic. Thanks Fiona M, x
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I apologise too. Sorry to make you feel bad. It wasn't intentional, I was just having a bit of fun with you to try to lighten the mood :o :)
 
Im a little late reading this thread and in all honesty havent read all what people have said (im half revising.. half keeping myself from become a vegetable and reading about horses :) )

However...

I used to compete, have lessons, hack try everything I could.. I do feel my riding has deteriorated since I stopped lessons and competing. But if im not sounding too big headed, dont think Im a bad rider. Im balanced, I sit broncing sessions, shoulders being dropped etc.. I do however lose enthusiasm with riding when Im just hacking, I feel I have no goal to reach, why should I be sitting in an absolutely classical seat with my horse working hard to step out when we could both amble along together in comfort? After all the most I will see is a squirrel, and I havent as yet seen one sitting in a dressage box marking my position lol

There is snobbery, as you get with everything competitive.. its just the nature of some people, but you get it every where from Equine Sports to showing guinea pigs.

I think the long and the short of it is in my opinion, you will have natural riders who have the instant riding gift, who are just happy to hack and you will have the god awful riders, that shouldnt be let lose on a horse competing.. its a range through out the industry, and its what I love (not the terrible riders... some of them need locking up..) as there really is that will appeal to everyone and to every horse... we forget some horses love to compete while others find it such an ordeal and are happy to mooch round a field eat blackberries with their owner :)


p.s if you skim through the post you will see a diverse range of characters coming out... some people are rude, other diplomatic. The same can go towards thoughts on riding disciplines. :cool:.
 
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Seeing as the website is in the public domain, as are all the photos on it, does that mean I have to ask permission to view it?
Personally, I have found DressageLove's comments to be extremely derogatory of people who choose not to compete. I suggest you read back over your comments DressageLove and see that labelling people who only hack, such as myself, as inferior riders is offensive to me and probably others too.
If you can't take it, then I suggest you don't hand it out.

I don't think that sending me nasty PM's and reporting me to admin is really an adult thing to do when you advertise your website on their forum.
 
To be fair to dressagelove, you'd have to have nerves of steel to hack out from the yard she is on, it is on a major A road.

I love hacking :).

When I got my mare as a 3 yr old, she was frightened of traffic, due to my expert riding and phenomenal skill :rolleyes:, she is more or less bomb proof now.
 
lhotse said:
Seeing as the website is in the public domain, as are all the photos on it, does that mean I have to ask permission to view it?
Personally, I have found DressageLove's comments to be extremely derogatory of people who choose not to compete. I suggest you read back over your comments DressageLove and see that labelling people who only hack, such as myself, as inferior riders is offensive to me and probably others too.
If you can't take it, then I suggest you don't hand it out.

I don't think that sending me nasty PM's and reporting me to admin is really an adult thing to do when you advertise your website on their forum.
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Who is sending you nasty PM's??

...and what did YOU do wrong? YOu don't have 2 accounts, do you....?
 
I do abit of everything, local competions & hacking. Everyone rides different. We are all confident in our own ways from hacking to competing. I enjoy pampering my boys just as much as riding them & I feel alot of the confidence comes from the handling just as much as the riding. If I am honest I am not the tidiest rider, but I not bothered what people think as I am happy & so are my horses. I am on a big yard & majority of people only happy hack. It's each to their own as long as horse & rider are happy what ever there doing then so be it :)
 
No, not 2 accounts, just the one I've always had. Is it against forum rules to post a photo from a website that is advertised on this forum? Just working out how long my ban will be!
DressageLove, yes, I probably shouldn't have posted the link, but to be fair, you have been more than derogatory about people who you perseive as inferior riders on this thread, and to be honest, it was p***ing me off.
 
I fall into all aspects of horse ownership

When I rode my horse and I went on picnics together just poddeling around the lanes great for stress release.
He competed in all disiplines. But most of all I loved him and he gave so much back to me.
 
DragonSlayer said:
Ah, I get it now, changed names when things started to get a bit heated, I understand.

Ihotse, I do hope you contact admin over this, I am hoping you don't get a refraction.....
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Not that there is anything in the t&cs against having multiple accounts - as long as they are not used 'inappropriately'.

Dressagelove was just feeling very 'got at' and I can kind of understand why to be honest!

*whispers* and it's infraction :D
 
lhotse said:
No, not 2 accounts, just the one I've always had. Is it against forum rules to post a photo from a website that is advertised on this forum? Just working out how long my ban will be!
DressageLove, yes, I probably shouldn't have posted the link, but to be fair, you have been more than derogatory about people who you perseive as inferior riders on this thread, and to be honest, it was p***ing me off.
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Me too!! She has well and truly got on my Tits.
 
sussexbythesea said:
My observation on this forum and others is that happy hackers and (dare I say it) cob owners :o spend far too much time worrying about what other people think and often in doing so come across as snobs themselves as they then proceed to put down all other riders because they compete or own a warmblood :D :rolleyes:
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I own a very furry hairy cob and a very stereo typical dutch warmblood (No, i don't have a type!)

BOTH hack out very sensibly in the heaviest of traffic, and BOTH are affiliated and compete in dressage at Medium level.

I don't give a proverbial about what anybody thinks. my girls are well rounded and happy, because they see a bit of everything!
 
DragonSlayer said:
Ah, I get it now, changed names when things started to get a bit heated, I understand.

Ihotse, I do hope you contact admin over this, I am hoping you don't get a refraction.....and I was also being sarcastic over the 2 accounts.... :p
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Another infraction to go with the other one, which ironically I got for exposing Ted'sMum for what she really was nearly a year ago!!

As for DressageLove, pot/kettle/black. If you can't take it love, don't dish it out. Also, you haven't taken me up on my offer of a hack, to show you that 'happy hackers' can ride just as well as you dressage divas. Are you scared?
 
rhino said:
Not that there is anything in the t&cs against having multiple accounts - as long as they are not used 'inappropriately'.

Dressagelove was just feeling very 'got at' and I can kind of understand why to be honest!

*whispers* and it's infraction :D
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Doh!

....in my defence I'm watching 'Paranormal Activity 2' and the laptop leaps 2 foot in the air when something happens! Making allsorts of mistakes....!
 
dressagelove said:
I'm sorry, I think I fall into the 'snobbery' section. :D Many happy hackers I'm afraid IMHO aren't the best riders, some may be but if all you do is hack, in my book that means you can't ride a horse in terms of getting a performance from it. If that makes sense. Competitive riders hone their position, their aids etc etc. Happy hackers wouldn't do this correct?

I suppose it depends on what your definition of a good rider is... Some one who sits on a horse and walks around can sit on a horse, it does not mean they can ride. I could put my non horsey OH on a horse for a hack, does not mean he can ride!
If said horse starts pratting about (on a hack) and the rider can control it, not lose balance, get back in control quickly, sit to spooks etc, then yes they may be a good rider.
Having said that, I don't think there is anything wrong with happy hackers, whatever makes you happy! Just don't pretend you know everything about higher standards of riding, schooling etc
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Have you ever thought that some people may only hack because their horse has been injured and can now only hack out? They're not cold-hearted enough to have their broken toy PTS so they can buy a shiny new one. They are horse lovers.
There are dressage riders competing at a LOT higher level than you who don't have access to an all-weather floodlit, perfectly harrowed arena and have to school in fields and on the roads who get an excellent performance from their horses.
There are a lot of people on this forum who will have competed at a much higher level than you will ever achieve who are now only happy hackers. If I were one of them, I would be truely offended by your comments.
And as for your comment "don't pretend you know everything about higher standards of riding, schooling etc", I believe the level you are currently working at requires very little knowledge of any of the higher standards.
I did take the liberty of having a look at your web/blog/it's all about me site......your saddlecloth needs washing. I think I would remove some of those photos - they are not flattering. In your case, less would be most definitely more....
Good luck in your dressage career.
 
Auslander said:
Getting REALLY bored with the repetitive snidey comments about people with expensive competition horses being too scared to hack, never going out of walk etc etc. It's complete rubbish...

You cannot get a horse fit enough to compete properly in any discipline without hacking/canter work. I've worked for dressage riders, showjumpers and eventers - and all of them have hacked out - we used to be out for hours with WFP's horses.

People who are too scared to go out of walk out hacking are highly unlikely to venture out to parties - which are FAR more exciting to the average horse than cantering down a bridlepath...
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Where I live am surrounded by a lot of horses who are exactly the type that never go out. The horses next to mine are in the menage being ridden by TRAINERS. I suggested to go out for hack for the younger horse and the owner looked at me as if I was nuts!....Too much money, private in house facilities, well looked after horses! The owner is scared. We have lots of posh horses around here and I have never seen them out hacking at all. Less than more.
 
Annie&Lilly said:
I own a very furry hairy cob and a very stereo typical dutch warmblood (No, i don't have a type!)

BOTH hack out very sensibly in the heaviest of traffic, and BOTH are affiliated and compete in dressage at Medium level.

I don't give a proverbial about what anybody thinks. my girls are well rounded and happy, because they see a bit of everything!
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At last someone responded to my comment woo hoo! I thought I was invisible.

Well done you Annie&Lilly that's my whole point why let it stress you what others think? although you do sound a little stressy. ;)
 
lhotse said:
Another infraction to go with the other one, which ironically I got for exposing Ted'sMum for what she really was nearly a year ago!!

As for DressageLove, pot/kettle/black. If you can't take it love, don't dish it out. Also, you haven't taken me up on my offer of a hack, to show you that 'happy hackers' can ride just as well as you dressage divas. Are you scared?
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Not scared in the slightest, I have hunted, evented, been riding since I was 4, and have an excellent seat, regardless of what you might think, so bring it on, I am up for extreme hacking.
 
Holly Hocks said:
Have you ever thought that some people may only hack because their horse has been injured and can now only hack out? They're not cold-hearted enough to have their broken toy PTS so they can buy a shiny new one. They are horse lovers.
There are dressage riders competing at a LOT higher level than you who don't have access to an all-weather floodlit, perfectly harrowed arena and have to school in fields and on the roads who get an excellent performance from their horses.
There are a lot of people on this forum who will have competed at a much higher level than you will ever achieve who are now only happy hackers. If I were one of them, I would be truely offended by your comments.
And as for your comment "don't pretend you know everything about higher standards of riding, schooling etc", I believe the level you are currently working at requires very little knowledge of any of the higher standards.
I did take the liberty of having a look at your web/blog/it's all about me site......your saddlecloth needs washing. I think I would remove some of those photos - they are not flattering. In your case, less would be most definitely more....
Good luck in your dressage career.
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God I love you!
 
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