So what has British Eventing done wrong?

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What…repeatedly running your horse (or a few of them) within a short time-frame?
Yes and no.
It’s elitism in its finest to go abroad for that.
But it could be accessible to non-elite if done in the UK.

It wouldn’t need to be weeks on end. 2-3 weeks maybe, with 3-4 events over that timeframe.

To make it viable in areas such as East Anglia (for example) they would need to be assured of sufficient entries and to do that a core of entries might be those who base there for the duration - yes those are the elite. But it wouldn’t prevent the non-elite for coming for the day/weekend just like they would for regular events.

You could run the masters, some YEH classes, PT, Badminton GR pre-run.

I’m not quite sure the infrastructure would quite work (yet), but the concept could be explored. Assuming the venues had interest, if adequately supported by BE and competitors. And that’s not a given!
 

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Moreton Morrell cancelled for May, seems in part as they had a midweek date.
Howick did the same at start of the season. They are a GR event and can’t make the numbers stack up mid week especially as they run a 90…. They tried to get a weekend and couldn’t which is insane when there are so many gaps in May in the SW calendar. In the SW we now have just 1 x BE event and it’s one I won’t go to. So either go unaff of which there is a tonne of choice including Pontispool or travel a lot further.
 

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What…repeatedly running your horse (or a few of them) within a short time-frame?

It can be quite common to run a few weekends in a row, especially at the beginning of the season, to help get the horse in to a rhythm/ swing of eventing. I used to do runs of three and often your best event is your third one where you've both got your eye in and eventing is a routine rather than huge excitement. In between events is managed to make sure the horse is ready and raring to go for the next one.
 

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Does anyone know how many even'ts/ days have had to cancel versus the days that have managed to run so far this year? Unfortunately feels a complete deja vous of the start of last year.
 

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Does anyone know how many even'ts/ days have had to cancel versus the days that have managed to run so far this year? Unfortunately feels a complete deja vous of the start of last year.

I reckon this may be worse than last year. It's been the wettest 18 months since records began in 1836...
 

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Thanks LEC, that's really interesting - 15 cancelled so far, 8 have run and 4 are scheduled to run.

It will be interesting to see if there are any changes to the calendar next year off the back of these last two starts to the season.
 

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What I haven’t picked up is Cirencester was replaced by a Tweseldown and Oxstalls replaced Ascott U W
 

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Well something is shifting behind the scenes in BE, at least in regards to pragmatic event rescheduling where organisers can make it happen.


Ciren to Tweseldown
Ascott to Oxtalls
MM to Solihull
Kirrimeur

Possibly others that have bypassed me.

Let’s keep this drive to change things going and let’s hope it can filter into other areas of concern too
 

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Well something is shifting behind the scenes in BE, at least in regards to pragmatic event rescheduling where organisers can make it happen.


Ciren to Tweseldown
Ascott to Oxtalls
MM to Solihull
Kirrimeur

Possibly others that have bypassed me.

Let’s keep this drive to change things going and let’s hope it can filter into other areas of concern too
New dates given to Bovington & Breckenbrough,
 

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I get that it's disappoining to reschedule to midweek, but it is a lot better than just cancelling.
The problem is that mid week in term time means they cannot attend.

Schools won’t allow kids to be absent for this sort of event and its the run up to exams.

So that means that parents have to take a day off, then they also have to pay the fine from the school (£60 per parent, so potentially £120) and they miss out on exam prep sessions.
 

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Yes I know all that but they are not saying 'it's sad we have to miss out' they are saying 'how can you schedule midweek'. At least some are. My friends with U18s aren't. They get that you can;t please everyone, and an event that at least some people can do is better than everyone missing out. Not just for those people but for eventing as a whole - which in the end matters to all of us who don;t want BE to die.
 

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Yes I know all that but they are not saying 'it's sad we have to miss out' they are saying 'how can you schedule midweek'. At least some are. My friends with U18s aren't. They get that you can;t please everyone, and an event that at least some people can do is better than everyone missing out. Not just for those people but for eventing as a whole - which in the end matters to all of us who don;t want BE to die.

Precisely!
 

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Wonder if they’ll struggle to get volunteers to help? My daughter and I fence judge for BE but wouldn’t be able to do it midweek
Maybe some of the 200 whinging U18s can do 1/2 day volunteering which surely would count towards one of their exams or DOE and compete the other 1/2 of the day? (tongue in cheek)

It's fantastic to see BE showing some flexibility along with the amazing organisers.
 

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I think I'm going to see if I can move my lunch break or something one of those days to make it. They should have realised and done some out of hours but any effort that BE are making to listen to and engage with members has to be a good thing and I'd feel a hypocrite for complaining when I was given a chance to engage and didn't take it. They probably wont actually give us a chance to say anything or give any thoughts or feedback on the call anyway 🤣
 

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I think I'm going to see if I can move my lunch break or something one of those days to make it. They should have realised and done some out of hours but any effort that BE are making to listen to and engage with members has to be a good thing and I'd feel a hypocrite for complaining when I was given a chance to engage and didn't take it. They probably wont actually give us a chance to say anything or give any thoughts or feedback on the call anyway 🤣
That’s my POV. I can move meetings around and take my lunch hour to do it if chosen. I suspect they are inundated. I do think they need to choose people that have real experience of the calendar though within the categories and know better calendars when they were around.
 

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Not a lot of rain during the day yesterday - the intermediate track was causing carnage though - loads of problems especially midway round the course
 
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