Some people Grrr!! (rant)

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So angry at the moment, I've recently started riding out some guys show jumpers for him, they're all pretty highly strung as you can imagine show jumpers are, they're fed high concentrate diets and have little turn out, which in my quite large experience with keeping show jumpers this is the norm during the winter. The guy who owns them has gone away so they havent been exercised since i rode them on friday, so all are a little fresh to say the least, which I dont mind at all.

Anyway, took out my last one to be ridden today, whos about 17hh, KWPN pretty god damn sparky, and was on our way home so he was being a little bouncy, anyway car comes up behind me so I make him stop and he goes bolt upright, anyway, I give him a wallop, and make him work into an outline and trot him forward. Another car was coming the other way and I slowed down to go past it, next thing horse puts in this humungous buck, and yes I fell off!! On the road... damn horse, anyway, not to bothered about that, thats horses for you. But this bloody woman had a massive go at me saying he's obviously scared of cars, which I explained no hes not, he's just fresh... and she tells me I should of stopped after he reared with me... (what? so he could do it again and make him worse!!) and I should of got off and led him home, (I'm 5'3, the horse is 17hh!! I'd be 2' off the ground!!) Stupid clueless woman, all this whilst I was trying to find my phone which had fallen out of my pocket to ring the owners son to tell him horse was on his way home!!!

Some people wind me up so much, she didnt even ask me if I was ok, thankfully the other woman was much more understanding as she had horses and she gave me a lift back to the yard where thankfully owners son caught him and put him away!!

Its gonna be lunged for a whole hour tomorrow!!!

Oh yeh and my bum hurts!
 
Oh dear sounds like a nightmare. I think you done the right thing by staying on (for as long as you did anyway) as IMO it would be more dangerous on the ground with the horse beng so big and you small. My horse rears often out on hacks especially when we hit the grass. Its through him being excited and not naughty or scared!

I would have told the lady in the politest manner possible to sod off and mind her own business if she didnt want to help the situation!!!

Nice lady to give you a ride back, there are some decent people around. Hope your not hurt!
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I'm fine!! I agree its much safer staying on the horse, though it lasted about 2 minutes!!

Where else am I supposed to ride it??? Its what I get paid for, sadly don't have the luxury of a field or school to ride in just a lunging pen, and the owners want me to ride so I ride!!

Its different when its your own horse, but when you get paid to do a job, its what you've got to do, if I don't I don't eat... simple as!!!
 
I had this yesterday not quite as sparky as you but sometimes in this weather particularly there isnt much choice!!

Some car drivers are idiots.....I much prefer being on board than leading a lively one, it is ultimately safer and more control on board.
 
A woman had a go at me walking on grass once because my horse was being silly - let alone the road! And another complained to me that a horse was playing up on the road and it got so close it could have kicked their car, she didnt seem to understand when I asked why they didn't give a wide berth. some people are so stupid!
 
I totally sympathise, my big (supposibly more mature!) TB is sometimes fine and sometimes a nutter, you never know which until a car comes past always the ones coming towards us??? He will either stop and shake or do the quickest ever whip round! Today was a whip round day! Not much fun! He was ridden out yesterday and was great, and today his younger little bro was a saint despite not being sat on for 2 whole weeks!
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Sorry, think you are so silly to ride a horse that hyper on the roads - you are soooo lucky that it was only your pride that was dented. If you aren't in control, then you shouldn't be hacking them (regardless of why they are acting they way they are).

I'd have had a go at you too.
 
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Where else am I supposed to ride it??? Its what I get paid for, sadly don't have the luxury of a field or school to ride in just a lunging pen, and the owners want me to ride so I ride!!

Its different when its your own horse, but when you get paid to do a job, its what you've got to do, if I don't I don't eat... simple as!!!

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That being the case I hope you are being rewarded generously for risking yourself on the roads with fired up horses. Of course riding is a high risk sport, but the owners have a responsibility to minimise risk too - how on earth do they train these horses without a school or some kind arena to work in if they are competition horses?

Back to your original point - yes, some drivers are less than helpful!
 
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Sorry, think you are so silly to ride a horse that hyper on the roads - you are soooo lucky that it was only your pride that was dented. If you aren't in control, then you shouldn't be hacking them (regardless of why they are acting they way they are).

I'd have had a go at you too.

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Thats a wee bit harsh dont you think?
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Yes she knows the horses are hyper but was she to know what the horse was going to do??? ie throw her off. Im sure that if everytime she rode this horse, it threw her off, and caused an accident then she would no longer ride on the road. Horses are so unpredictable (sp?)!! I still think the lady should have been a bit more sympathetic towards her!!
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Thats a wee bit harsh dont you think?

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No I don't I'm afraid. Of course horses are unpredictable - we all appreciate that.

However, some horses are just not safe to be ridden out - this sounds like one of them. Given different situations, ie. turnout, less grub etc. then it may have not reacted as it did. But quite frankly if a horse goes up because you've asked it to stand still for a moment is just bloody dangerous.

I ride enough 'highly strung' horses myself to know what constitutes safe and what doesn't. These are very fit hunters or event horses. None would react like the OP's horse did. They are not over-grubbed, get plenty of turnout and are exercised daily.

The only complaining the OP should be doing is about being put in a potentially life threatening position by the owner of the horse(s).
 
Ok then my horse is turned out for 7 hours a day is ridden upto 6 times a week and is not over fed. When i take him on a hack he "SOMETIMES" rears and he is very high strung! Should i refrain from taking him on the roads?
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Ok then my horse is turned out for 7 hours a day is ridden upto 6 times a week and is not over fed. When i take him on a hack he "SOMETIMES" rears and he is very high strung! Should i refrain from taking him on the roads?
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I think you are talking semantics here - And I'm not getting in to the whole should you / shouldn't you hack your horse. I am merely commenting on the OP.

Horse sounded wound up like a top and dangerous. That to my mind equals don't hack it out.......

What you do with yours is your business!
 
Amymay

Excuse me since when did you know ANYTHING about the horses I ride!?!?!?!??! The same horse which I rode EVERYDAY last week was a complete angel... as said before they are unpredictable!!

In general the horses are VERY well behaved, BUT they are athletes, and I'm afraid I'm not a god damn Psychic so sadly wasnt able to look into the future and see that it was going to buck me off... surely if I'd of known that I wouldnt of ridden it!!!!!!

As said before, they are SO unpredictable, on the way out the horse was being chilled! Only on the way home did it perk up... This is what annoys me so much about some people, you think you have all the knowledge and right in the world to say to someone "I think you were stupid etc!" but if you were on the horse it would be completely different scenario!! This is my job, its what I do, and if you are so competant with your vast experience of riding highly strung horses then surely you would know damn well how much a horses attitude can change in a matter of seconds.

As I said, this is one of my jobs, I actually really enjoy it, but I also know that I can't control everything the horse does!!
 
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Excuse me since when did you know ANYTHING about the horses I ride!?!?!?!??! The same horse which I rode EVERYDAY last week was a complete angel... as said before they are unpredictable!!

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My comment was based on the information you gave in your OP. At no point did you say that last week it was a complete angel. And yes, horses are unpredictable animals.

But to my mind it sounds as if you were put in a very dangerous position and the result was you came off on the road.

I'm sorry, I stand by what I said. If a horse can't be ridden safely on the road (and road users have a right to expect that) then it shouldn't be on the road.

I'm sorry I've offended you, but am glad that you escaped this time unharmed. And I didn't say you were stupid, I said silly.
 
Glad ur ok - the road isn't the nicest place to land
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I walk my pony out in hand as she's way to little for me to ride. As I was leading her on Saturday someone came out of their house and shook their doormat. Cop spooked and as soon the person saw us and realised they said sorry and stopped so we could go past. Someone walking their dog down the hill stopped and had a go at the poor woman for being inconsiderate etc, even through she's didn't see us!! Some people just like to have a go I think.
 
If you are hacking a horse out you have as much 'duty of care' to others as any other road users.

I hope that you have made sure that the horses have third party/public liability insurance and that you also have the same up to £10,000,000 as if an accident occured and you where heald liable you need to make quite sure you have sufficient insurance cover.

Taking a horse out on the public highway or in a public place when you know it is likely to explode is not sensible as someone not necessarily yourself could end up being seriously injured or killed.

You clearly know that the horses are full of food and you are not doing yourself or anyone else any favours by excercising these animals while they are in this state of mind

They clearly need to be stabled somewhere where there are sufficient facilities to excercise them on private land so that members of the public are not endangered by there dangerous behaviour.

I am a great believer in avoiding accidents as I have seen far too many that could have been avoided had common sense been used.
 
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If you are hacking a horse out you have as much 'duty of care' to others as any other road users.

I hope that you have made sure that the horses have third party/public liability insurance and that you also have the same up to £10,000,000 as if an accident occured and you where heald liable you need to make quite sure you have sufficient insurance cover.

Taking a horse out on the public highway or in a public place when you know it is likely to explode is not sensible as someone not necessarily yourself could end up being seriously injured or killed.

You clearly know that the horses are full of food and you are not doing yourself or anyone else any favours by excercising these animals while they are in this state of mind

They clearly need to be stabled somewhere where there are sufficient facilities to excercise them on private land so that members of the public are not endangered by there dangerous behaviour.

I am a great believer in avoiding accidents as I have seen far too many that could have been avoided had common sense been used.

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It's my job to hack them thats what I do, anything else if your that bothered then go and talk to the owners!!!!!

As I've said, the horses are generally well mannered, my own horse has sometimes leaped and bucked on the road with me, so therefore should I keep him in the school for the rest of his life just incase he does it again????

Because that is what your saying the owners of the horses I ride should do?!?!? They arn't robots!!

As I've said this is my job, I don't choose what I do with them or what they are fed etc, I just hack them.
 
I wouldnt ride a horse like that on the roads on its own, unless you have a death wish! It simply is not worth the risk to yourself, and other road users, which you have to remember are mainly very ignorant to how a horse is going to behave, it is very irresponsible of the owners of these horses to let you do this on your own, as you are obviously having some difficulty, you were lucky this time for yourself and the horse.
 
oh god, one of mine is a known rearer bucker and napper and the other one will have a hissy fit about a million and one things on any given day... even other horses grazing in a field.
should i not ride them out? ok in reality no maybe not but thats not going to happen, i do wear hi viz, i do know how to control the traffic and if i think either horse is going to spook or do anything i either pull of the road or stop and wait until there are no cars.
id say the original poster has now relised that is worth giving there horse a good lunge before heading out.

but being that all horses will continue to have a mind of their own are any of us guarenteed safe?
 
Yes that is your risk on your own horse, i would not put someone else on my horse if i thought it was going to behave in the above mentioned way... it sounds like you have a coping strategy with your horse which you both understand, i dont think the poster has that choice. If they do behave really badly on the roads you should avoid dangerous situations as much as possible.
 
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Sorry, think you are so silly to ride a horse that hyper on the roads - you are soooo lucky that it was only your pride that was dented. If you aren't in control, then you shouldn't be hacking them (regardless of why they are acting they way they are).

I'd have had a go at you too.



Firstly im sure she is in control, if shes being payed to ride competition horses then she must be quite good. Secondly how was she to know the horse was going to be a t***? If you rode one of your horses out and he was a bit fresh and he unseated you then i doubt you would be very impressed if someone had a go at you for falling off, seeing as its not a common occurance which im sure its not in the case of the poster too.

Still, everyone, no more riding other than in the school when your horse is a bit fizzy. After all, horses are unpredictable and they might throw you off, even if you have direct forest hacking, there might be a dog walker out who your horse might run over so under no circumstances are you to take any risk at all! Even ponies that are generally perfect can not be trusted, as EVERY HORSE HAS AN OFF DAY and if you fall off im going to travel accross the country to find you and shout at you!
 
i do know how to control the traffic and if i think either horse is going to spook or do anything i either pull of the road or stop and wait until there are no cars.


It would be lovely to be able to guarantee that you could control the traffic, and be able to predict when your horse is going to spook. However I feel us mere mortals need to keep our wits about us and certainly not assume that we can make a jot of difference to drivers actions
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Any horse can be highly strung but still 100% safe in traffic..... I think this was an unfortunate incident and am glad that you remain unscathed although a little sore!

Horses are unpredicatable and I noticed you said the horse has been a complete angel all the other times you've ridden him so how people can label him/her as dangerous is a bit silly..... its just one of those things and he/she obviously got out of the shavings bed feeling a little lively this morning!
 
I don't envy your job! Horses chucking you on the road then dimwits having a go at you for it. I get paid to tootle a carriage and three 13.2s round a country estate, I'd be off the forum and scanning the classifieds for jobs if I were you.
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Vieshot you put it much better than I did, thanks for those who understand where I'm coming from!!

I actually love my job so much, so won't be looking through any classifieds right now!!
 
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