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Found out today that ponies can't get proud flesh because their skin is different from horses.

[ETA as seen below, the KBIS vet who wrote that is wrong, but ponies do heal much quicker than horses so get it much less often]

And that male donkeys have teats/nipples.

Who knew?

What's yours (needn't be horsey)?

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Well I never. I have had a couple of significant injuries on ponies over the years, and never had any proud flesh. I had thought I was just really fortunate. Now I know.

Non horsey, but an aside on a discussion of the history of rhubarb cultivation in the Dewsbury/Batley area. I found out the difference between Shoddy and Mungo. I'll leave you good people to look it up.
 

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Well I never. I have had a couple of significant injuries on ponies over the years, and never had any proud flesh. I had thought I was just really fortunate. Now I know.

Non horsey, but an aside on a discussion of the history of rhubarb cultivation in the Dewsbury/Batley area. I found out the difference between Shoddy and Mungo. I'll leave you good people to look it up.
I knew about shoddy. I do some work for one of the rhubarb growers in the rhubarb triangle but not heard of Mungo.
 

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I knew a pony when I was a teen, it had a cut at the rear of its leg, just above the fetlock. It grew a veritable 'sausage' pointing upwards as proud flesh.

I was there when the vet cut it off. It had a small artery feeding it and I remember the vet being upwardly showered in blood. A dog leaped upon the severed sausage and it was never seen again.

I know ponies have proud flesh!
 

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Got it from this KBIS insurance site, written by their veterinary advisor.

https://www.kbis.co.uk/news/2016/the-vets-view-skin-deep

Is this just a vet who doesnt know what they are talking about, or what are they confused about?

ETA this article supports that ponies get it much less often due to better wound healing that is not completely understood.

https://practicalhorsemanmag.com/health-archive/equine-proud-flesh-problems-31307

I expect there are more.


ETA proper bit of peer reviewed research (caution - small numbers) into why ponies heal better than horses:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9952330/

And more, two of the same vets as the above study.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...lts_to_the_clinical_approach_of_equine_wounds

Different vet's publication here (page down).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/immunology-and-microbiology/pony

I think that's probably enough :)
 
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Never heard that one before ycbm. Not saying it’s not true (I have no idea) but what would the size of the animals have to do with having different type of skin? I wonder if it’s true of some smaller breeds perhaps? Something to do with the specific breeds skin rather than ponies in general?

Polly is nearly 15hh on tip toes, so yes technically a horse, although she looks like a pony in every way. She definitely had proud flesh. I have some fab photos of her leg.
 

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So, back to the beginning ?

What did you learn that was new today?

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I didn’t know until last year that my horses ugly ergots could just be cut off ??
I used to struggle to clip and scissor round them hating the damn things!
nb. He’s my first cobbier horse so nothing I’ve owned has ever had visible ergots!


One thing I love about TBs is that they don't normally have any, or just a tiny pip.

I've got eight legs in the yard, not an ergot in sight ?
 
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