stallions....what should i be looking for?

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Hi,

I am planning to put my mare to foal next year and I was just wondering what I should be looking for in a Stallion?

She is about 15.2hh but we don't know her breeding. She is very short coupled and has lovely paces but unforunatly can't be ridden and don't know wether she will be able to be. My daughter got on her the other day (leant over her back) and she didn't move but at the moment our plans are to breed from her. She can jump 5ft with no-one on her back, and we are looking for a stallion that could produce an allrounder and one that would compliment her. We have found a couple that we like but as this is our first time not sure wether they are right or not.

What is better AI or Natural?

thanks for any information

xXx snoopy xXx
 
not sure about choosing a stallion. but not many people use the natural way due to the risks. where i work we use AI and it is very succesful, it means that you do not have to send the mare away.
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good luck finding a stally
 
Difficult to advise without seeing the mare. She will contribute 75% to the foal and you will only have the stallion to go by, as you have no background on the mare (been there). Also you have to know what your budget is, what sort of horse you want to breed, how far you are willing to travel, unless you go the AI route.
 
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Why can't she be ridden??

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We are not exactly sure, think she had an accident when she was younger... vet has said she is ok for breeding. We bought her to save her from the 'meat man'.
 
Depends what you want to do with the foal when it grows up!
Aso what your budget is. When breeding foals its not a gaurentee that you'll get one. It is a lovely experiance (well it was for me). and all very exciting from conception to birth.
Decide roughly what sort of horse you want from how much bone , size of pony/horse to colour (coloured/appl/solid) Arab/tb/id/welsh/native. So much to think of. Will it be a first foal? maybe something smaller to start with!!
 
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We bought her to save her from the 'meat man'

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Be, very, very careful then. You know nothing of her past history, and people very rarely send something to the meat man for no good reason.

I would not put her in foal.
 
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Difficult to advise without seeing the mare. She will contribute 75% to the foal and you will only have the stallion to go by, as you have no background on the mare (been there). Also you have to know what your budget is, what sort of horse you want to breed, how far you are willing to travel, unless you go the AI route.

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Will try and get some photos as all the ones i have on this computer are either of her head or are missing half her body!!

Don't really want to say budget on here but the stallions that intrest me are around the £400-£600 mark. Would like to breed an allrounder, or a SJ. Would probably go the AI route as its a little more difficult from France....can't seem to find any i like!
 
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We bought her to save her from the 'meat man'

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Be, very, very careful then. You know nothing of her past history, and people very rarely send something to the meat man for no good reason.

I would not put her in foal.

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We know that she was used in a riding school, and that her previous owner bought her from a dealer who obviously drugged her when she went to try her out. The reason i say we saved her from the meat man is because if she was sold to a French person she would then have been sold on to become meat, or possibly a broodmare but because she doesn't have 'french papers' the french wouldn't think she can do much! I think she has had a foal in the past because the lady we brought her from also had a foal (mother was nearly 4) which she took on as her own, as mother had no clue what to do.
 
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Depends what you want to do with the foal when it grows up!
Aso what your budget is. When breeding foals its not a gaurentee that you'll get one. It is a lovely experiance (well it was for me). and all very exciting from conception to birth.
Decide roughly what sort of horse you want from how much bone , size of pony/horse to colour (coloured/appl/solid) Arab/tb/id/welsh/native. So much to think of. Will it be a first foal? maybe something smaller to start with!!

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ok thanks. It will be our first foal but not sure about hers.
 
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We know that she was used in a riding school

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It would be interesting to contact the riding school to try and find out a bit more about her perhaps?? Was there an accident? Was that the reason that she was passed on - or perhaps because she was not suitable etc??
 
don't breed from this mare in France - you have rescued the mum but if she doesn't have papers then the foal won't have a future either and all you are doing is breeding for the meat market

just keep her as a paddock ornament
 
because the french horse breeding system is very organised with the various french national studs standing all types of breeds of horses from working draft horses to selle francais

a horse without papers has little future as unless you intend to keep the foal for life and not sell it - to a french horseperson (if you are intending to use a good quality stallion then you are trying to breed a competition type horse) they will want proven pedigree and preferably a competition record.

as I understand it in France the breeder of a horse is entitled to 10% of the horses lifetime prizemoney providing the horse remains owned in France. Hence again the need for pedigree papers.

Personally unless I could know that I would offer the foal a home for life I wouldn't breed in France from an unpapered mare or stallion as it would end up as meat

There have been other threads on this forum about a year ago where people with UK papered breeding stock had terrible problems getting teh UK papers recognised in France so that they could breed over there when they moved their stud there.

Check it out with your local Haras Nationale and find out what future a foal from this mare would have.
 
If what we have been told is true, the foal will have half papers, if sire has full papers / not, because it will then have parents names. And If i compete it and we do well at high level/championats de France than we can win papers.

but i could be wrong here
 
check if that applies to a non-French sire as you won't from that mating be issued with French covering cert. and French foal papers

I'd go and check it out at Haras Nationale and if necessary for safety breed to one of their nice Selle Francais stallions. The fee will probably be lower and they are good at AI as well

BTW - have you checked that your French horse vet is clued up on AI - I know that some French vets are not that brilliant at horses and others are superb.
 
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