Stally opinions please... Igguldon Skye Laird

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Hi all.
As you know I was very tempted by a Jumbo stallion up in Fife, but wasn't sure about using without viewing.
I now have a couple of pics of him, and a couple of his babies. What do you think?
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I've also got a couple of better pics of Tills for you. I took some proper confo pics on my phone, but typically can't find the cable anywhere, so these will have to do! The first one gives a better idea of how she is, the second pic doesn't do her justice at all. She's really not that strung out!
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Opinions?
 
I like the stallion and the mare!
Stallion look well put together to me, nice short cannons and pasterns (I have a huge issue with feet) Plus very elevated in the first photo!
 
His first eventing season was pretty dire with his owner, but then went to Lucinda Fredericks for 3 months and was about to start Pre-novice with her when he was injured in the field. He's 6, so not had a massive amount of time to prove himself.
This is his advert:
http://www.stallionsonline.co.uk/viewitem.php?id=9742&t=Igguldon%20Skye%20Laird

My mare has been incredible over the years, but her suspensories have now given up on her, purely through about 14 years on the polo/polocrosse pitch!
 
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I thought croup high too, but unsure how recent the photos are, will check.
Surely being that croup high he wouldn't have passed his grading? He's graded with the Scottish Sports Horse society.
 
Not one of Jumbo's better sons IMO. I think I would pass on him. It also does not mention if he is graded & there is not much of a market for stock by ungraded stallions even if you are breeding to keep circumstances change, I thought you liked Derek?
 
I do quite like derek, but just investigating all my options.

The plus side to Skye is that he has very high motility and a great success rate with mares that previously haven't taken to other stallies - obviously a plus when breeding from a lady in her late teens!
 
He's very long in the back and weak across the loins as well as being croup high. His eck's set on high too. There's things to like about him but enough to make him a good mate for your lovely girly I dont think!!
 
I think hes absolutely gorgeous, what a colour!
Wouldn't use him though - too long in the back for my personal liking and would like a better competition record.
 
Looking at it, it's got no form and is pretty ordinary really, would you look twice if it was chestnut or bay?
Think there are more quality stallions out there.
 
Honest answer is I wouldn't use him.
There is something inherently wrong about the middle section of his body, his neck makes his head look big and if you are breeding something, why choose one that has a bad start to it's competitive career?
I would go for something more proven and with better conformation.
Sorry but I am being honest...
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Don't apologise, I wanted honesty!
I'd much rather take on board the opinions of experienced people than go it alone.
One of my previous mares was long in the back and slightly croup high, and it was a b*gger to get her working properly, so don't really want to be breeding something similar to that do I?
I think if I'm being honest about Tills' conformation then she's a bit too long in the back, so it's not something I want to exaggerate.
I'm liking the compactness of High Tension...
 
Just looked on BE and anything that got eliminated Sj and XC at Intro level is not what you should breed from...
Yes he carries Jumbo bloodlines but Intro is not difficult, so there's no excuse.
You should know from my preaching about breeding "ordinary horses" I am not always in favour of using the best stallions in the world, but having had two competition stallions I wouldn't stand them if they had a record like that!
Not being bitchy but realistic..
Now if you come down here I'll actually let you pop over a fence or two on a working stallion, to show you the difference!
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No, I'm not touting for business, I think he is too light in build for your mare, but you can have a sit on him if you are an average rider and see what something nice feels like.
Do think hard about using the other boy, he just isn't quite what you want, there are loads of lovely stallions around..(and Langaller Stud is just 6 miles away from here!)
 
I had my doubts as soon as the pics came through (first impression of the confo pic was 'is that one of his youngsters?' as it was so croup high, thought there was a lot of growing left to do!!), just wanted to see what the general concensus was. I'll hold my hands up and say that I know nothing about this breeding lark, but I do desperately want to get it right as I want a bit of my mare to keep hopefully long after she's gone, and to love it every bit as much as I love her.
Thanks for the offer of the ride on Chocx, but with the run of bad luck we've both been having lately it might be better if I steer clear for a while!
 
I've seen him advertised up here and the most obvious thing from his jumping photos is his unimpressive technique, I feel. My reaction to the dangly foreleg photo that has accompanied the ad in the Scottish press was if that's the best photo they have...

I guess it depends what you want to breed, though..

Good luck
 
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