Strasser - should I leave well alone?

[Queenbee]

Haven't read all the replies yet but here's my bit...

I think the problem is as someone else touched on that this method was designed by strasser for severely lame horses, there are arguments and anecdotal evidence that it can have positive effects in such cases... Whether or not this is true... I have no idea... What is very clear is that strasser does not train people regarding trimming the initially sound horse, she only focuses on trimming for the treatment of severely Lame horses and using drastic corrective 'clinical' trims. I think one of the main problems is her followers use these trims in their everyday treatment of initially sound horses... Hence they cripple them, they are entirely uneducated in the art of trimming and dealing with sound horses and so they spend their lives leaving crippled horses in their wake.

 

[MerrySherryRider]

Working as a trimmer accredited by one of the professional organisations? In which case, which one please?
Or is she someone who has been on an owners course and taken it upon herself to start charging people?
Is she insured would be a good question.

LOL, oh yes. The Jamie Jackson one, the AANHCP is it ? Fully 'trained' and not only trimming but working on very neglected hooves and even worked solo during the student practitioner period. Part time hobby. Hmm. Scary.

 

[Goldenstar]

If only one thing was really clear in my pre BF research that the Strasser method was not going to me for me.
Not so much leave alone but flee to your lodge in the hills.

 

[amandap]

LOL, oh yes. The Jamie Jackson one, the AANHCP is it ? Fully 'trained' and not only trimming but working on very neglected hooves and even worked solo during the student practitioner period. Part time hobby. Hmm. Scary.

This is an outline of the training for AANHCP. http://www.isnhcp.net/ Click on the training tab.
Imho the AANHCP trim is the least invasive of all except celery of course. lol

Of course as has been pointed out how any training is used and updated is dependent on the commitment of the student/practitioner. YasandCrystal's husband sounds like a good dedicated practitioner.

 

[cptrayes]

This is all learnt by him since his training. I think the problem is like with many professions you will get those who are dedicated and are open to and will learn new techniques.

Your husband is a gem !

Well, farriery wise. I'm sure you have other ideas about some of his aspects

 

[cptrayes]

Haven't read all the replies yet but here's my bit...

I think the problem is as someone else touched on that this method was designed by strasser for severely lame horses, there are arguments and anecdotal evidence that it can have positive effects in such cases... Whether or not this is true... I have no idea....

Having done several compromised horses and watch Rockley do dozens more, I can tell you categorically this is not true. Those compromised hooves no more need butchering apart to pull themselves together than any other foot needs that kind of trim. She is, quite simply, wrong. And every other trimming organisation in the world has been telling her so for years, and so has the law in this country.

 

[cptrayes]

LOL, oh yes. The Jamie Jackson one, the AANHCP is it ? Fully 'trained' and not only trimming but working on very neglected hooves and even worked solo during the student practitioner period. Part time hobby. Hmm. Scary.

If it's AANHCP , I certainly was shocked how quickly they appointed a friend of mine a "Field Instructor" in the UK. but I thought they were better now. Off to look at Amanda's pointer.


Yeah, looked at it now. HOw long ago did your mate do this horserider, because it looks very expensive and pretty rigorous now.

 

[Queenbee]

Having done several compromised horses and watch Rockley do dozens more, I can tell you categorically this is not true. Those compromised hooves no more need butchering apart to pull themselves together than any other foot needs that kind of trim. She is, quite simply, wrong. And every other trimming organisation in the world has been telling her so for years, and so has the law in this country.

Yes, to be honest from reading I don't even hold with the theory and it wouldn't be a road I'd want to take my horses down, but my point is, that even if they weren't butchering these horses, they are using a trim that is designed for a completely different purpose... The extremes of this trim, make me feel quite sick, remember that footage of the angle grinding hoof trimmer, she was self taught and held clinics and wrote a teach yourself how to angle grind your horses hoof book... This is at least as bad. But just one google and I would not have had such a practitioner to my horse it's just shocking...


Op don't put shoes on, I actually agree that you risk more pain by doing that, buy some boots and pads and some bute

 

[maccachic]

I used a hoofnz trimmer and would not go back there (have a look at their website for course length http://www.hoofnz.org.nz/), my trimmer is trained using the strasser principals via: http://www.ibem.co.nz/

There are before and after pics on my profile of my TBs feet (before was with the hoofnz / after is strasser trimmed). The strasser trim here I don't believe is the radical trim everyone thinks where horses are bleed etc.

My horse has never been lame after a trim.

He hunted last season, is SJ this seaon and did his first endurance 20km and qualified on quite a lot of gravel. I will not use anyone else.

My stb after his first trim (he had previously been shod) trotted round for ages trying out his new feet where as previously he would mooch around. he also qualified over 20kms at the same ride and he hadn't done a lot of conditioning work (partner doesn't ride a lot).

I think you should judge the quality of the trimmer not the percieved style.

However I was never made to watch videos etc but she does talk me through it.

Equi chat and NZhorses are some NZ forums if you want to chat to NZers