Take the blame for property damage??? Some advice please!!

stargirl88

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Quick Q as I'm a bit unclear as to what to do.

Basically, had been told by new yard owner to put horses in a particular field because he didn't want to spend £150 cutting the grass down again. (It have become overgrown due to them spraying it for ragwort).
The field has no shelter (yard owners not buying any) so the other woman at the yard decided we were going to let them all have access to the stables (accident waiting to happen surely :confused: ).... I did say I wasn't sure it was a good idea, but my mare has been on this yard for 6 years (only bought her officially a month ago have known her and other woman on this yard for 2 years) and they said they've done it before with no problems. right.
Anyhoo, basically damage HAS been done, one of their stable doors can no longer close as the walls have been bent inwards and the wood snapped. My mare has got the blame because she has sweet itch. However she has hardly rubbed her tail, I have seen her rub her mane but no chance it would have caused such damage.
There was an incredibly *****ty note left for me, even implying I was tying my mare up on their damaged stable and that if she found out I had I'd be seeing this womans "true colours". Bit unnecessary! I have seen one of their ponies rip panks of wood off the wall, and corner their other pony in its stable, yet I end up with the blame. I did mention this but she said "17 years and we've never had a problem...."
She said we were going to "SPLIT" (was written in big letters!) the bill. I'll assume she meant half and half. But she's p*ssing me off so since she has 3 horses and I only have 1 I was going to pay a quarter. She's the kind of woman who was going to charge 20p for every poo she picked out recently in the field (!)
Anyway, since there's no evidence whatsoever that it was my mare am I supposed to pay out? The rent is so cheap there is no way the yard could possibly have insurance....

who is responsible to pay this? I'm leaving ASAP and just want to tell everyone to f off as I'm so sick of how they are but I don't want to be unreasonable just because I have issues with them. Should the yard owner be paying? Am I being pretty saying I'll only pay a quarter? there is no yard contract or anything like that.
Any advice most welcome! Sorry it's a long one :o
 
Just get out and leave them to it. There's no proof that your horse did the damage. It sounds like a dangerous idea to begin with.
 
TBH if they don't have insurance then it isn't your problem, if you are leaving anyway I wouldn't pay a penny! I couldn't imagine my YO saying 'your horse has broken the stable and you have to pay for it', we would just do the repairs ourselves but if we didn't he would just get on and do it. These things happen with horses, if they want to make their money out of horses then they have to accept that and if they prefer not to insure then that is their problem! My OH ran a yard for 26 years, I have just asked him and he said he would never have asked a livery to pay for repairs (odd times they have done their own but not having being asked to do it).

Have you actually spoken to the YO about it as you make no mention of it, would just be interested to know how he feels about it! I would also show him the threatening note too - it could be the other woman who is looking for a new yard!! That sort of behaviour is rarely acceptable!
 
I wouldn't pay - we never charged horse owners for damage to fences, stables etc - sometimes when it was clear which horse it was (eg damage inside one horse's own stable) the owner may offer to pay out of guilt, but we accepted it was just what happens when you are a livery yard!
 
Have you actually spoken to the YO about it as you make no mention of it, would just be interested to know how he feels about it! I would also show him the threatening note too - it could be the other woman who is looking for a new yard!! That sort of behaviour is rarely acceptable!

I've not personally spoken to him no - but the other woman on the yard says when she tells him about the broken stables etc he'll get a price and we'll then all split the bill. So I've left it down to her really as I've always kept myself to myself but I'll have a word with him about it. I'm just not very good at putting my foot down sometimes even though I'm a bit miffed!

The whole yard is a total dive anyway and I have no imput to what field etc my horse is in. So moving in about a month anyway.

Thanks all for opinions :) Still not totally sure what to do as feel like a cow if I say they can shove it... but, again, if she's going to be a prat about it and if he wasn't responsible enough to get insurance then .... you live you learn really I suppose...
 
It's utter madness letting horses free range in and out of stables. If it was her idea then she should cough up when it goes wrong IMO. Get out as fast as you can & personally I wouldn't pay a penny.
 
You already pay an element of your livery bill to cover repairs (or should do if the YO has done his sums properly), so you are not obliged to pay anything further.
If I were you I would carry on with my plans to move and hope that all concerned have learned the lesson that leaving stable doors open in this way is asking for trouble. It could have been much worse, one or more of the horses could have been badly hurt.
 
I wouldn't really be discussing this with the woman. Your contract (presumably) is with the YO. Talk to him and find out what he thinks. If he expects you to pay have a chat with him and see what agreement you can arrive at.
 
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