Ted's mum
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well I am certainly no novice and mine wasn't nuts just money eating machine litterally. nitemare of horses...you can pick um up 2 for a penny these days....
TB's at the sales . . . apparently passports nailed to doors and 'help yourself'???
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Ted's mum
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no it wasn't ulcers....I spent thousands on vets actually...just a typical skinnt spindley TB
scatty_mare
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But not so typical.
ew1801
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theres a tb on our yard. hes out at grass during day, fed soaked hay at night and then fed a handfull of hifi-lite at night and he looks very well. he is only shod up at the front and has brilliant feet and only throws shoes the same amount of times any other horse does so dont really know where your coming from. maybe your tb had a underlying health problem
Ted's mum
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most TB's that have raced that I know of are the same. sorry but mine had nothing wrong with him health wise just 2 dicky tendons fom racing as most do
Milkmaid
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Most don`t have lameness/injury problems actually. The vast majority are taken out of training for being to slow.
Sounds like you ended up with 'a bit of a dog' but that doesn`t mean you should tar them all with the same brush. It is wise to be as careful when selecting an ex-racer to retrain as when buying any other horse. If not, then yes, it will most likely end in heartbreak and huge expense.
scatty_mare
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Err sounds like he did.
Anyway, that's beside the point. Unfortunately you had a tricky tb. It doesn't mean they are all like that.
Anyway, that's beside the point. Unfortunately you had a tricky tb. It doesn't mean they are all like that.
Wimbles
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Tina Cooke, andrew hoy, pippa funnell must all be gutted to have such a bloody useless animal.................................................
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Ted's mum
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I am just going by my experiences with the buggers
scatty_mare
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Rose Folly
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Laafet - It wasn't me who said TBs were being left tied up at sales- I have no first hand knowledge of that at all. But we've had several discarded racehorses ourselves over the years, and IMO it is a selfish industry. Like greyhounds - when your horse/dog is winning, great. When it's luck turns, or never materialises, just get rid of it. Believe me, I've seen it over and overagain. And yes, some horses do therefore end up in unsuitable homes. My oint, probably badly made, was that with so much indiscrimate breeding by one and all, both in the TB and general riding horse areas, and with a recession going full blast, these horses are a throw-away commodity.
And, as I type this at the window, the latest local racehorse reject is being led past the house - if horses could talk!
And, as I type this at the window, the latest local racehorse reject is being led past the house - if horses could talk!
honetpot
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My TB was bred for racing but has spent most of his life showing /dressage. He is a lovely old boy and most of the time would not say boo to a goose, in fact wouldn't go anywhere near a goose, unless going backwards. They are bred to go fast, not for temprement or even trainablity. In fact they will put up with any thing as long as its first past the post.
Some do cope with a change in life style but scatch the surface they a speed machine undrneath and most are better off in professional hands. Yes they do make good eventers and even show horses but most of the successful ones are in 'proffessional' type homes.
Our TB only went on a course once but after 20 yrs of going round in circles on the bit will turn in to a flight animal for no reason you can see.
My friend had a livery, a rehomed racehorse for a week. The owner had given it to a 'good home'. The young girl turned up at 11 to feed it and didn't muck it out for the week it was there and was not ridden either.
Some do cope with a change in life style but scatch the surface they a speed machine undrneath and most are better off in professional hands. Yes they do make good eventers and even show horses but most of the successful ones are in 'proffessional' type homes.
Our TB only went on a course once but after 20 yrs of going round in circles on the bit will turn in to a flight animal for no reason you can see.
My friend had a livery, a rehomed racehorse for a week. The owner had given it to a 'good home'. The young girl turned up at 11 to feed it and didn't muck it out for the week it was there and was not ridden either.
JaneyP
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Going back to original thread..yes is does happen i know people that work for transport companies and if they are not sold they are left, because they dont want to feed them for the winter. Very sad.
JaneyP
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Oh and to add it DOES happen at some of the ones that people have said it doesnt.
jhoward
Demon exorcist...
Ted's mum
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maybe get some more experiance
NO thankyou...I hate TB'S
Onyxia
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nikkiportia
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LMAO! So you're basing your opinions on a wealth of knowledge and experience of the breed then?
I challenge you to find a skinny TB in one of our fields, and they all live out rugless most of the year, get fed less than a scoop of feed a day, and nearly all of them are barefoot
I owned an aggressive greyhound once, so based on the way you make judgements, I should now run around saying all greyhounds are aggressive.
Pally
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I had a lovely TB...she tried to kill me a few times but always tried to find me a man while out hacking! Jumped in front of binmen and a lorry full of soldiers! so she cant have been all bad!!!
Heehee! I like this.
Holly Hocks
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NP are you saying that it would be better if my two beautifully behaved ex-racers were dead?? Perhaps you would because let's face it you do seem to spend a fair amount of your time at Potters as you keep on telling us! I do hope this is not the case as if it is, then it looks like you're on the wrong forum....
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trickivicki
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like all breeds you get good and bad ones.
it is just a shame really that they are in such an excess, but that can only be helped going forward and not breeding so recklessly.
it is just a shame really that they are in such an excess, but that can only be helped going forward and not breeding so recklessly.
SO1
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i don't think it is because they are TB's but more because they are Ex racers who have not been bred or trained to be leisure horses for the average rider. These horses are professional sports horses bred for speed. Temperement and trainability will not be at the forefront of the breeders mind they are not breed or trained to be someone's pet or riding horse and some just may not be suitable for the amateur rider. TB's perhaps are a victim of their own success as race horses or professional sports horses and are not being bred much for the average hobby rider so when they fail at the job they are bred for there just is not a big enough market for them unless they have been successfully re-schooled.
They are backed early and worked hard at a young age and this may effect soundness later on and can be expensive to feed compared to a coldblood. The hotblooded TB's and Arabs also seem to be unfashionable now with cobs and warmbloods fetching the decent prices.
I am a native pony sort of person and therefore would never have a TB but I do appreciate that others like something a bit faster and challenging.
They are backed early and worked hard at a young age and this may effect soundness later on and can be expensive to feed compared to a coldblood. The hotblooded TB's and Arabs also seem to be unfashionable now with cobs and warmbloods fetching the decent prices.
I am a native pony sort of person and therefore would never have a TB but I do appreciate that others like something a bit faster and challenging.
Holly Hocks
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oh dear...another with a SOH bypass.........
BTW...What Forum SHOULD I be on then?
No, not a SOH bypass, just that way out today, so just wanted a good argument, but managed to get one on the other thread, and not fast enough to move between two heated debates. Didn't mean to come across as no SOH, but having read it, I suppose it did come across a bit like that! Sorry! See you back at the other thread....
Trinity Fox
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I have posted earlier in this thread about my thoughts on the original topic but would have to say after reading alot of the posts about tbs in general would have to post again. My family has always had horses parents had a riding school when i was young my dad started point to point so we have had a fair few tbs i have to say most of them have gone on to do other jobs with us as they have never sold any on one was hunting up until he was 27 had been pin fired and raced as a two year old always sound as a pound.
As well as having younger horses my dad is hoping to race this year he has two oldies retired from racing one is 20 the other 23 the 23 yr old led the local common riding last year and attended a few of the rideouts both are in work sound they take a bit more feeding yes i agree with that.
My dad is only really interested in racing and hunting he has had some time off after being ill but is trying to get fit to ride this year in point to point he is 71 he will not have anything other than a tb i guess if it does that for your spirit you cant really knock them they do take a bit more consideration and experience and it always makes me laugh when he refers to other horses as ponies and hairies.
And we do have other types fell welsh warmblood coloured cob tbx he just loves tbs and he didnt start riding in points until he was in his 40s we are so used to them we dont have a problem but i guess you do have to take proper care of them but i dont think they deserve to be knocked so much.
And i am not being totally biased as i dont personally own a tb they are my parents i have the other ones but i work with them daily i cant complain any more about them than the others we have they all have their ups and downs good and bad points.
In fact my dad causes us much more worry of him injuring himself and his lack of self preservation and is much harder to control than all of the tbs we own put togethor what is it they say about kindred spirits.
As well as having younger horses my dad is hoping to race this year he has two oldies retired from racing one is 20 the other 23 the 23 yr old led the local common riding last year and attended a few of the rideouts both are in work sound they take a bit more feeding yes i agree with that.
My dad is only really interested in racing and hunting he has had some time off after being ill but is trying to get fit to ride this year in point to point he is 71 he will not have anything other than a tb i guess if it does that for your spirit you cant really knock them they do take a bit more consideration and experience and it always makes me laugh when he refers to other horses as ponies and hairies.
And we do have other types fell welsh warmblood coloured cob tbx he just loves tbs and he didnt start riding in points until he was in his 40s we are so used to them we dont have a problem but i guess you do have to take proper care of them but i dont think they deserve to be knocked so much.
And i am not being totally biased as i dont personally own a tb they are my parents i have the other ones but i work with them daily i cant complain any more about them than the others we have they all have their ups and downs good and bad points.
In fact my dad causes us much more worry of him injuring himself and his lack of self preservation and is much harder to control than all of the tbs we own put togethor what is it they say about kindred spirits.
Holly Hocks
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Beautifully written....
winterhorses2
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Oh dear maybe i should get rid of my 3 ex-racers lol...
they're not mad or fast lol
After a couple of seasons in the hunting field, my hubbie has nicked mine to hunt hounds from, but will also happily amble at the back with my novice friend....
The second entered well also...
And the 3rd, my Derby horse is my little hunter, laying the trail, for hounds to follow or ambling in the field.
Tbs get such bad press, but at the end of the day its the nature of the horse not the breed that makes it what it is..
they're not mad or fast lol
After a couple of seasons in the hunting field, my hubbie has nicked mine to hunt hounds from, but will also happily amble at the back with my novice friend....
The second entered well also...
And the 3rd, my Derby horse is my little hunter, laying the trail, for hounds to follow or ambling in the field.
Tbs get such bad press, but at the end of the day its the nature of the horse not the breed that makes it what it is..
toomanyhorses26
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tb's - all bloody nuts I tell ya
Like someone else has said so many come out just because they are too slow rather than anything else. The above horse was retired from racing at the age of 3 years and 2 days because he was too slow - I now think it was his maturity that caused his poor record - as in 7 months he has grown a hand and has gone bum high again (the 15.1hh teenagers horse hmmm mybe not anymore
) he gets overtaken out hacking by kids on their ponies and has absolutely no competitive instinct at all . Yes he was cheap and yes I took a risk buying him unseen from an internet ad but the only issue we have come across is shoeing so far and in ever other respect he is a sweetheart. Snaffle mouthed at all times and takes everything we have thrown at him - first comp was a little dressage test - he walked into a spooky indoor school like he had been doing it his whole life,banners not a problem,working with and without other horses present no sweat and to cap it all off came home with a rosette and a score of nearly 70%. My other ex racer is more of a sensitive flower - very unsure of himself and needs constant confidence building but that is him - far too much of a thinker for his own good. Again retired as too slow and showjumped the hurdles so wasted far too much time in the air and to everyone who thinks tbs are only good for going fast int straight lines he can also do 
and this
and is partial to a bit of posing as well
He costs me no more to feed than any of the previous horses I have had ,keeps his shoes for 9 weeks and has done so well since coming out of racing doing all manner of things that don't involve running fast
Neither of mine have any soundness issues in connection with racing - ginger one had tendonitis about a year after I got him hooning round the field and the little bay has had one abcess - neither breed specific injuries and equally may never reoccur. You would be ahrd pushed to find me owning anything else now - get a tb on side and they will try their hearts out for you .Millyard Rejects
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tb's - all bloody nuts I tell ya
Like someone else has said so many come out just because they are too slow rather than anything else. The above horse was retired from racing at the age of 3 years and 2 days because he was too slow - I now think it was his maturity that caused his poor record - as in 7 months he has grown a hand and has gone bum high again (the 15.1hh teenagers horse hmmm mybe not anymore
and this
and is partial to a bit of posing as well
Hes a bit lush!!
Cadfael&Coffee
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I adore the way no ones posted after the pictures of the beautiful thing which was posted before me