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Spirit2021 said:
I wouldn’t just go up a pick him up your asking for trouble and you need to look at your contract cancel everything and take a step back . It will only end in a disaster. Most of the time the person who has the horse had a mouth before you can collect it legally.
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How will this end up in disaster? The only way that will happen is with a laminitic horse not receiving urgent vet care.

OP go and get your horse now.
 
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Spirit2021 said:
I wouldn’t just go up a pick him up your asking for trouble and you need to look at your contract cancel everything and take a step back . It will only end in a disaster. Most of the time the person who has the horse had a mouth before you can collect it legally.
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I would expect there to be a 'welfare clause' in the contract, most loan contracts have one. The contract will say something along the lines of 'in case of welfare concerns the owner reserves the right to remove the horse to a place of safety without the usual month's notice'.
Very few loan contracts are actually legally enforceable.
 
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Ambers Echo said:
And I can never have too many updates!!!
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I have one out on LT(P)L and agree - other mum loves her dearly and farrier and EDT keep an eye on her between the much-welcomed photo updates. I wouldn't dream of taking her back as their hearts would break, but I am here for them both and she can always come home.
My new boy is on similar terms but more in case I drop before he does! Happily, his people care enough about him to have put these safeguards in, too.
 
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Just go and get your horse.
Feck what it says in the contract- what are they going to do? Sue you for breach of contract ? Because that would be the only thing they could do and I doubt they thousands of pounds to spare on a legal action.
Since your horse is being moved without telling you and he isn't getting vet care when needed , I would just go and get him.
 
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I will again re-interate… if the horse is kept at a livery yard, it’s highly unlikely the YO/staff will give you free rein simply to help yourself to a horse, load it up, and drive away
 
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This reminds me of when I had my pony on loan. The owner wanted to be very much part of his life. I didn’t want to feel as if I was just looking after her horse so I ended the loan. Lucky for me she then sold him to be for a nominal amount. Not everyone is suited to loaning and it seems that in this case the wishes of both parties just don’t match.
 
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fredflop said:
I will again re-interate… if the horse is kept at a livery yard, it’s highly unlikely the YO/staff will give you free rein simply to help yourself to a horse, load it up, and drive away
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They have to if she can prove that the horse is her property, which she can, and she can call the police saying there will be a breach if the peace of they try and obstruct her.
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ycbm said:
They have to if she can prove that the horse is her property, which she can, and she can call the police saying there will be a breach if the peace of they try and obstruct her.
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It might be hard to prove is her horse, assuming the loaner has passport, how would you prove ownership? Maybe in you show yard a copy of signed loan contract and proof of your name and address?
 
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bouncing_ball said:
Yes I know that. However if you were the yard owner, what proof of ownership would you seek to allow the owner to collect a loan horse?

Ideally the yard has livery contract, and is aware horse is on loan, and the details of the actual owner, but it doesnt always happen.
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I would expect to see a copy of the dated loan contract with 2 signatures on it, the owner's and the loaner's along with proof of the owner's identity, especially if she is not in her own transport..

ETA, I would also want proof of who the transporter was.
 
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Poppyalfiemoon26 said:
Update. Daughter was pleasant and letting me pick up Monday.
mum being rude saying I hope I can forgive myself!!! ???
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Just take whatever verbal stuff you have to with as much grace as you can, you won’t win any verbal confrontation.
Look at the big picture .... the horse will be looked after properly and home, that’s worth a little bit of grief!
 
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