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JadeyyAndLadyy

JadeyyAndLadyy

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This might get long, im no good with explaining things but ill have a go, sorry if i dont make any sense at all and feel free to ignore me :(

Well, Currently im up in Newcastle visiting some family. They have the most gorgeous Staffy puppy, who will be 1 year old next month. Now, with a 1year old puppy, you would expect chewing, mouthing, jumping up, Excitable and looaddsss of energy. This puppy matches up to that.

What my cousins obviously dont realise, is the way they are treating this puppy is absolutely disgusting. :mad: Anyone with half a braincell would take a dog for a walk/good run around if it has alot of energy. But no. They have this puppy locked in a cage not much bigger than himself, With a plastic bed chewed almost to the base, no food or water (Both is outside) no blanket or cushion. I understand about the no cushion/blanket as he would chew it to pieces within hours. But this also means Puppy spends all day every day without a comfortable place to lie down. :(

They dont take him out for walks, only letting him out in the morning and evening into the garden, feed him quickly and shove him back in the cage. Puppy then whines and paws at the cage to be let out and presses himself up against the bars to be stroked whenever i walk past :( then barks and whines when i walk away. THEN he is yelled at and called 'Stupid Dog!' when he makes a noise. Being locked up in this cage means his energy is building more and more so when he is let out he goes absolutely mental, jumping up at people etc. There are 4 young children under the age of 12 years old, so the parents obviously want to make sure they dont get hurt, so back in the cage he goes :/

About an hour ago he was let out, i went outside with him. He managed to get back in and ran into the living room, where my cousin grabbed him, pinned him to the floor and whacked him a fair few times :( I got him back outside and Took about 25mins of jumping up, and me pushing him down and lying him on the floor to calm down, he finally calmed down enough for me to play fetch with him. You know what? He was an absolute star. If they did this with him everyday, took him out on a field and threw some toys, he wouldnt be half as bad. We managed to sit there cuddling, stroking his face and lovely sloppy kisses from him. I cant believe i have to leave him here tomorrow, this is no life for him. The mother wants rid of him, the Father is fed up with him, so he is locked in a cage day after day, and will get hit if he even breathes wrong. I wish i could take him home :(

The Vicious Circle; Locking a puppy in a cage because they have too much energy is NOT the answer. Hitting a dog because he went into the wrong room is NOT the answer. Neglecting a 1 year old puppy is NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
This kind of treatment is against the law, as the dog is not being provided with a suitable environment, and not being given freedom to express normal behaviour, as required by section 9 of the Animal Welfare Act 2006.

(1)A person commits an offence if he does not take such steps as are reasonable in all the circumstances to ensure that the needs of an animal for which he is responsible are met to the extent required by good practice.

(2)For the purposes of this Act, an animal's needs shall be taken to include—

(a)its need for a suitable environment,

(b)its need for a suitable diet,

(c)its need to be able to exhibit normal behaviour patterns,

(d)any need it has to be housed with, or apart from, other animals, and

(e)its need to be protected from pain, suffering, injury and disease.

(3)The circumstances to which it is relevant to have regard when applying subsection (1) include, in particular—

(a)any lawful purpose for which the animal is kept, and

(b)any lawful activity undertaken in relation to the animal.

(4)Nothing in this section applies to the destruction of an animal in an appropriate and humane manner.
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They deserve reporting:mad: Although I understand that they are family, which places you in a difficult position:(

The dog would be better off dead than living like that:(
 
Spudlet said:
They deserve reporting:mad: Although I understand that they are family, which places you in a difficult position:(

The dog would be better off dead than living like that:(
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I completely agree with you spudlet. Me and my mum were talking about how disgusting they treat that poor puppy, i asked if i could take him, both my cousins said yes, but tbh i couldnt, i already have an old dog, they would fight. Im in such a difficult position, if they werent family i wouldnt hesitate at reporting. I honestly dont know what to do about this :(
 
The question is, if you or someone else takes the dog off their hands would they get another one? If so they do need reporting (for the sake of any other animals unfortunate enough to end up with them) but if they have realised they can't care for a dog and wouldn't try again then I'd take him away with you and try and rehome him yourself. PM me if you want help, I know a dog trainer in Oxfordshire who may be able to find him a home or even foster him for a while until he gets a home
 
Brownmare said:
The question is, if you or someone else takes the dog off their hands would they get another one? If so they do need reporting (for the sake of any other animals unfortunate enough to end up with them) but if they have realised they can't care for a dog and wouldn't try again then I'd take him away with you and try and rehome him yourself. PM me if you want help, I know a dog trainer in Oxfordshire who may be able to find him a home or even foster him for a while until he gets a home
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Theyve had countless dogs in the past, then get bored/fed up and give it away/sell it :(
I think, if they lost this dog, i dont think they would get another for a while (few years at least) after struggling to cope with this one. I would happily take him home and look after him myself or try and find a loving home. Problem 1: our car is a company car, if it gets ripped/damaged/etc we will get in trouble and have to pay for the damage. Problem 2: My mum is disabled and home alone all day while im at college/work, so she cant look after it :( he will be too strong for her. :( :( :( Ill have to talk to my mum tonight when we are in bed
 
Did you ask them why they got a puppy in the first place?
To be honest, a well rounded one year old dog shouldnt really be chewing everything in sight. My pup is 7 months old and only chews the odd sock or her toys, she doesnt mouth anymore as we corrected it early enough.

The poor little thing will be bored out of his mind, hense the destructive behaviour. Have you asked why they dont let him into the living room under supervision? Let the kids throw some toys for him? If the poor little mite is locked up 24 /7 im sure even a couple of hours out of the crate with the family would settle him for now.

You could suggest (or buy them yourself if you dont think they will!) buying some kongs, bones, teething chews or a treat ball type thing they are all brilliant for occupying baby minds and they would give him something to actually think about!

I cannot believe that people expect a puppy to raise itself, he will never learn not to chew / mouth / jump up if he is never trained or even played with.

Poor little thing :(
 
Just saw your last reply - I have a friend who I fear may turn into one of those people that gets a puppy, gets bored and gets rid.... then does it all over again.

She had 2 JRT littermates, bought them when she was preggers then got rid incase they hurt the baby!! She got a pup earlier this year (3 days after she met my puppy!!) despite me saying she should 'borrow' my pup for the day / come round with the baby to make sure baby + her could cope with having a pup around but neverrr mind. She is already sick of the pup and walks it once a week on average. I have had a good rant to her about people who ditch / sell pups on once bored and I hope she got the message!
 
JadeyyAndLadyy said:
Theyve had countless dogs in the past, then get bored/fed up and give it away/sell it :(
I think, if they lost this dog, i dont think they would get another for a while (few years at least) after struggling to cope with this one. I would happily take him home and look after him myself or try and find a loving home. Problem 1: our car is a company car, if it gets ripped/damaged/etc we will get in trouble and have to pay for the damage. Problem 2: My mum is disabled and home alone all day while im at college/work, so she cant look after it :( he will be too strong for her. :( :( :( Ill have to talk to my mum tonight when we are in bed
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Hmm then maybe a threat of reporting if they get another one??? Re problem 1: if you are taking the dog the least they can do is give you the crate to get him home and re Problem 2: by the sound of it even if he is shut in his crate the entire time you are at college etc it would still be an improvement for him given that you will be giving him at least SOME stimulation and exercise on a daily basis but perhaps you could get a dog walker or a neighbour to let him out for a pee / short walk at lunchtime
 
littlemisslauren said:
Did you ask them why they got a puppy in the first place?
To be honest, a well rounded one year old dog shouldnt really be chewing everything in sight. My pup is 7 months old and only chews the odd sock or her toys, she doesnt mouth anymore as we corrected it early enough.

The poor little thing will be bored out of his mind, hense the destructive behaviour. Have you asked why they dont let him into the living room under supervision? Let the kids throw some toys for him? If the poor little mite is locked up 24 /7 im sure even a couple of hours out of the crate with the family would settle him for now.

You could suggest (or buy them yourself if you dont think they will!) buying some kongs, bones, teething chews or a treat ball type thing they are all brilliant for occupying baby minds and they would give him something to actually think about!

I cannot believe that people expect a puppy to raise itself, he will never learn not to chew / mouth / jump up if he is never trained or even played with.

Poor little thing :(
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They got him because they wanted one, and they love the staffy breed. They didnt think about the consequences. He isnt even one year old yet, and yes, the chewing and destructive behaviour is because he is bored being locked up all day :(
They havent bothered training him, at all, not even the basic sit/stay/lie down :( And they dont understand that he DOESNT UNDERSTAND what theye asking him to do, when he doesnt sit they will hit him :( Its ridiculous.
I would buy him toys/treats, but the mother will just put them outside if they make too much noise (Even just a squeek :( ) Poor little mite.
 
Brownmare said:
Hmm then maybe a threat of reporting if they get another one??? Re problem 1: if you are taking the dog the least they can do is give you the crate to get him home and re Problem 2: by the sound of it even if he is shut in his crate the entire time you are at college etc it would still be an improvement for him given that you will be giving him at least SOME stimulation and exercise on a daily basis but perhaps you could get a dog walker or a neighbour to let him out for a pee / short walk at lunchtime
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1-Good point :)
2- thats true, plus in evenings when i get home i could take him to the field next to my house for a good run round. Im sure my mum will put a long lead on him during the day and let him into the garden for a little while.

Making me want him more and more :(
 
If you look back at previous threads there was one on people who work full time and have dogs. Some great suggestions on there for entertaining him during the day - frozen stuffed kongs, chew toys and treat balls etc etc and changing his diet to a decent food (I'm guessing he is on Bakers or similar?) may help him to stay more settled and reduce his urge to chew

Sorry I appear to be bullying you into this :o I'll go to bed now :rolleyes:
 
I agree if you could take him just in the way of offering him some comforts, more exercise than he gets now and change of routine and lots of stimulating treats/training aids/time with you, you are offering a hell of alot more than the poor little sod has now, you would def need his crate, as although it s a prison now its a msut for you and its a familiar place right now so could help him settle more if he moves environment and they can be very destructive and suffer seperation issues, so def no removal of crate but def a better routine with it.
As much as they are being tits it would be hard to prove if they where confronted or reported they would just lie

If I can offer any advice or help at all im not a stones throw from where you are now, staffs are not easy to home I wont lie and they do not do well in rescue (esp kennels) but he has youth on his side.
I prob would have took him on had I not just tonight taken 2 terrier pups in, but if you could not keep him perminantly but could take him on a temp basis I could place him on our website for rehome, just means you may have to travel back up with him for the actual rehoming:D

The only other thing I could do if phone around like mad tomorrow and try and secure a foster home.
I agree they could get another but its hard when you have seen a dog kept like this to turn a blind eye:(
 
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Get him out of there;and it worries me a lot about just where the bits of chewed plastic off the bed are!It is lethal stuff if it is in his stomach.
 
Sorry, i went to bed i got too tired :o

Had a word with my mum, i actually begged her to let me take him home, but she wont let me :( so i said fine, ill report them. she shrugged and said ok.

I go home today, which mean pressured descisions; Do something about it in the next few hours or next few days and go against my close family members, OR Do nothing and let this puppy have no life whatsoever. Id rather do the first. :(
 
Any decisions made yet? Please put this little chap before the 'feelings' of you family members.

He has no voice, and you are in a position to offer him a 2nd chance with someone who will change his life.

Please don't go home without him, if only to pass into rescue.
 
mollichop said:
Any decisions made yet? Please put this little chap before the 'feelings' of you family members.

He has no voice, and you are in a position to offer him a 2nd chance with someone who will change his life.

Please don't go home without him, if only to pass into rescue.
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:(

No desicions yet, had another word with my mum and she said we definately cant take him home, even if it is only temporary :( So i then told her again that if we dotn take him i will report them, she then had a go at me :/

She also said my cousin was planning on selling him because they dont want him anymore, which is sad but good because he can hopefully find a nice home. I dont know whether they will sell or not.... :(
 
He will become one of hundreds of staffies in the same position,the freeads and local rags are stuffed full of unwanted staffies.They are so cheap now as to be almost free,so buying on a whim is easy from idiots who bred them to boost up their "benefits" and fag money.Poor poor breed.
Most of the ads I`ve seen are fifty quid or free..so they are not likely to get a decent sum anyway..that`s if ANYONE applies for the poor little beastie in the first place.
 
This has made me SO angry. I know these people are family and I do not want to offend you but they sound like complete and utter chumps. PM me their details if you like and I will report them.

I do feel for you, what a horrible position to be in. Am I right in saying you're only young yourself?
 
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J&L if you're reading this - you posted a very well meaning rage about a dog living an awful, pitiful, life.
You were given lots of advice and in one post in particular, you have been given a real, real chance to help this dog from a person who has saved hundreds of dogs from the needle, or worse, a horrible, painful existence - please take it or there will have been no point in posting and this will be another poor lost soul slipped between the cracks.

EK is right, no one will pay any sort of money for this dog, he may even become a bait dog :(
 
Just seen this, echo all the above, please get in touch with Cayla. Why don't you show this thread to your Mum so she can see how angry people are with this situation.
 
I could do this also, if you can get a nice picture of him, I can add him to the site, (they dont have to know at this stage) I could also contact a staffi specific rescue (they would def need a pic) as strictly staff only, with us it makes no difference what he looks like but nice to show a picci, I will try and find another forster for my 2 skittish pups in the meantime, then if someone enquires quickish for the staff I can take him and assess him for the home (if he was not suitable I would not return him to hell):p but might be best if I could generate some interest first incase I need to hold on to skittish babies then I wont need to keep him here for long to assess.
(hope that makes sense)
In the eman time test them out and say "oh u know u said u wanted me to take fido" well I have a friend interested when she gets her holidays out of the way, would you actually part with him????
Ask them to forward you a lovely pic to show said friend:rolleyes:


Sometimes with younger staffs we do get rapis interest.
 
Gawd bless ya Cayla - J&L I'm bumping this, PLEASE take up this offer, for the sake of the dog, he is being neglected and brutalised and what if he one day decides he has had enough beatings/being yelled at and snaps? Would you blame him?!
 
Hey everyone, sorry i was travelling home yesterday so wasnt online. Sadly i came home without him :( Me AND both my cousins (!!) were trying to pursuade my mum to bring him home but she just wouldnt listen Absolutely broke my heart leaving without him :( I got some photos and a video though

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video of me playing with him :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH-vHRPhZLE
Let me know if it doesnt work

Cayla, i may PM you after work :) xx

And yes, i am only 18 years old (Cant remember who asked, sorry!)
 
Jesus, dogs really don't ask for much do they? A bit of a play and a cuddle and he's over the moon :mad:

And now i'm in tears havng watched that. OP so you have left there but what happens next? Have you been in touch with Cayla? You cannot just forget what you saw, that lovely dog deserves so much more than he currently has.

What happens now?
 
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