Things you've done that HHO members might not like....

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I've been know to spark up a fag while out on a hack.

I once kicked a horse in the rump with all my might who tanked (and I mean galloped) down a main road with me.

Brought a TB after 15 years of not riding.

Keep forgetting to undo certain straps when taking off rugs - well it has been a long time out of riding!

Talk to my horse like he's a 3 year old child.

Feed him too many polos.

Let him groom me on the arm - been told it will encourage biting.

Do far too much galloping when out hacking - good for the soul but not for the schooling!
 
I use twitches made with a hoofpick and bailing twine

I fully clip all my horses because I don't like doing lines

I ride one of my horses bareback up to the field in a headcollar and lead one each side

I once jumped some haylage bales (the big green ones) in an uneven field, unsuprisingly the horse hit a bale, the bale rolled over, and horse fell on top of me breaking my collar bone which I then had to have plated.
 
Well yours is obviously the ONLY way - I think I will repent my evil ways and throw away all my schooling whips, will allow the colt to do just as he likes with only soft words to chastise him..............................................for those that know me - please can I have roses on my coffin?
 
well, here goes...

administered Bute when i think it's needed, not because the vets been
have old horse wear over reach boots 24/7
ride without boots / bandages
lunge without a hat
trot & canter on roads - hunting!
don't always pick out feet
let the farrier visit go beyond '6 weeks' ...
been the sh*t of my boy coz he's reared and napped ...
worn spurs to point he's got red marks
deep litter and don't muck out the banks or 'wash the stable'
fully clip as can't be a*sed making lines match!
twitch horse for clipping
travel without boots and tacked up!
never ever used studs to jump
left my horse on full livery when i'm away and he's been alive on my return
turn out 24/7 in all weathers.
have a fluffy 1/2 pad to make my saddle fit new horse!!!
don't feed them tit bits... don't own polos!!
 
I very rarely pick feet out.
I do trot on the roads.
I will canter on the roads out hunting.
I don't think my horse will suffer if out in bad weather.
I won't be putting a rug on my horse this year.
I don't ride every day.
I don't believe that my horse needs adlib haylage.
I too make horses wear shoes.
I don't wear flourecsents out hacking.
I don't brush my roughed off horse.
I do like a really short tail.
 
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Well yours is obviously the ONLY way - I think I will repent my evil ways and throw away all my schooling whips, will allow the colt to do just as he likes with only soft words to chastise him..............................................for those that know me - please can I have roses on my coffin?

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You see when I read this, two things at once occur to me. The first is that I spoke of training without using pain to coerce - this is not, in my view, the same as using 'soft words to chastise' - rather it is a matter of using a well thought out and structured approach to training, where there are clear bounderies, but the horse is set up to succeed and not to fail.

The second is - wow - such violence towards me for my challanging what you see as your approach. I really MUST have got under your skin! I cannot recall having launched any personal attack on you, and I wonder why you chose to use this 'passive aggressive' approach to me?
 
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rather it is a matter of using a well thought out and structured approach to training, where there are clear bounderies, but the horse is set up to succeed and not to fail.

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Absolutely agree. However, no one told the colt that last Sunday so I've decided that asking him nicely not to bite and double barrell me simply doesn't work. However a good slap on the nose and kick up the arse does!!
 
what a hysterical post....heres my 5p worth

i turn horses out together, without boots on, having only just got them
my horses wear more than 1 rug at the same time & hoods
i rarely groom
i've ridden in a gag & spurs
i hack out in spurs
i canter down the roads
i wear 2 breastplates on 1 horse
i sent a horse to PC camp with 10 sachets of bute
i ride with my whip turned round for extra force
i don't soak hay, or use hay nets
i have more supplements than you can shake a stick at
i lunge in a pessoa
use pelham roundings with a grackle
used a grackle & a kineton at the same time
use a waterford on anything that leans
put all the reins through the martingale ring
use Mr sheen to stop mud getting in tails
jet wash my horse & tack (while he's wearing it) straight after hunting
travel horses without travel boots on
turnout in nylon headcollers
used draw reins
pulled a horse over backwards for being a tit
used a broom to load a horse, reversed a lorry into a big barn & driven said horse up ramp
travelled my horse tacked up
adminsiter drugs without vet advice/prescription
restock with drugs even if i don't need them at that time (seriously though, how can people function without stand by antibios?)
cut manes with scissors,
cut tails to sit ON the hocks
get off pickles by swinging my right leg over his neck
turn them out even if it is raining/snowing/hailing
let them bring themselves in
don't buy new rugs each year, deliberatly buy the end of line crap coloured ones
lunge off the bit... always
only have front shoes on horses in light work
Deliberatly start horses road work without shoes on (fresh horses DO NOT piss about on the roads when they have sore feet... fact!)

oh hell.... had better get running from the rspca! sod them, i'll challenge anyone to say mine don't all look well!

life is too short
 
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restock with drugs even if i don't need them at that time (seriously though, how can people function without stand by antibios?)


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Very easily if they have a vet who loves to rack up weekend call out fees!
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Surely this thread should be called "Things you've done that HHO members might like....! As all seem to agree on most the things listed.

I admit to doing some of them, ie ride in spurs, whip, clip, rug and done most of the minor things listed.

Have also lost my temper with my mare who is very dominant and acted from emotion rather than right. What makes me slightly uncomfortable with this thread, is where as it started as a sort of confessional fun thing, some of the contributions are downright celebrating the fact that the posters thrash their horses etc.

Whilst I understand why it is done sometimes, it seems really sad that we can have fun celebrating this fact on this thread.

Every time I have ever lost my temper with my horse, I have felt ashamed and a lesser rider. This in no way means I do not discipline her, I do and I am not in any way a "bunny hugger" or into NH, I just know that when I don't "lose" it with her, but am firm in an unemotional way her performance and response is so much better. I feel it makes me a lesser person every time she manages to push the right buttons and make me lose my temper and is something I recognise and try to rectify, not always with success. Its most certainly not a character trait that I think is worthy of listing in a positive celebratory way!

The one thing on the lists that I cannot understand is the "being shod" , as on this particular forum it is us barefooters who are always ridiculed and slammed. Being barefoot and "oh my god" using a barefoot trimmer is seen as the most evil of crimes
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Thing is vey i agree with your view in some aspects but that just doesnt work with every horse. Horses need boundaries end of, thats the way it happens naturally thats the way it happens in the herds in the wild. Now you might just be lucky you have well hbehaved horses, rock is well behaved and i dont have to give him a slap if hes naughty. But i have had horses and had to deal with horses that just take the piss and need to be shown who is the dominant one. Ive seen so many owners on the yard where i work who have completely unruly horses because they done show them the boundaries, they bite, kick and are cooed at when they do. Not when i handle them. If i get bitten or kicked they get bitten or kicked back, end of. IT doesnt mean i beat my horses, i dont even carry a whip with rock, but it means i do not get pushed around by horses who try to step over the line. All horses are different and all horses need a different approach, some need to be treated softer, some more harsh.
 
I did very carefully say that you need bounderies, and you do. But there is a huge difference between celebrating hurting horses, and having clear bounderies. When one of mine came here, he had no concept of bounderies. He did not like people and he was afraid of them. This is a terrible combination. It took a good deal of careful work to turn him into the quiet, well behaved amiable horse he is today. I happen to like youngsters - this means I have not, in years, brought a ready made horse. Believe me, I do know how to insist. It is impossible to say what the correct response for each action is without seeing the action, of course, but what we have here is a celebration of punishment as a way of life and a way of training. We are not talking about a quick response to a horse which has kicked out. A boot back might be the right response. But if that happened, if a horse kicked out, I myself would want to know why that horse did not already respect me, and I would want to put in a good deal of work to ensure that in future he did - that he knew I was boss and my space was mine. I try very hard not to wait for accidents to happen. I try to set up success.

Moreover, in these posts, we are by and large taking about carring a whip with the intention, NOT of using it to back up the leg as a clear signal, but as punishment- beating to hurt.

'NH' by which I take it posters mean in fact 'IH' is ridiculed here, but it is based on ground work designed to establish the rider/handler's control over the horse, to produce an instant and a willing obedience without fear, and a respect which includes liking.

Yes, I agree Doubletyme, what is ridiculed and unpopular here is a kind and considerate approach to hroses, and anything which might be considered 'alternative'
- oh pardon me for being shod they say. In fact being unshod, being barefoot, is the minority decision.
 
Vey - I totally respect your point of view. I would never ever want to inflict pain or suffering on any animal.

But again, with respect, I'm not sure you're in the real world here.
 
Vey;

I don't hit my horses........BUT.......that's because I seem to have aquired a fantastic lot of them. They are ALL well behaved under saddle, ALL perfect to handle and I never ever have any trouble with them.

However.......if they weren't and they didn't respond to being asked then yes I would tell them probably by raising my voice with a short sharp command (yes done this many times in the past!) and if they did anything which could cause an accident or with the intention of hurting someone then I WOULD smack them.......not beat, but smack.
 
sometimes i think there is a distinct lack of common horse sense these days, its 500kg of fresh meat, with its own mind, teach to respect you and you'll be fine, namby pamby around you and it'll end in tears! its easy when you have a horse first time round, but when you have other peoples mistakes & rejects things need to be done differently, and i think thats what people simply don't understand, and also that every horse is different, so what works for one, doesn't work for another,

one bug bear is regularly meeting local liveries riding on the wrong side/ in the middle of the road, which absolutly does my brain in!
 
I used to throw a headcollar at my 1st horse when I couldnt catch him!

And I also give bute sometimes without advice from the vet
 
Well, as to not in the real world, I disagree. As I say - I like youngsters! And I don't think it is an accident, that tiaribbon seems to have such well behaved horses, either!

Gees, yes, of course I'd say something sharp is they were out of line!
 
But actually - that's just the point - we ALL seem to have really well behaved, nice horses.

So most of us must be doing something right!!
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I'll play devils advocate here.... a friend has a horse they consider to be well mannered and nice, the yard shes on considers it to be the rudest animal theyve ever come across..... everyone thinks there horses are well behaved and well mannered, but people have very differing standards......
 
Deliberatly start horses road work without shoes on (fresh horses DO NOT piss about on the roads when they have sore feet... fact!)

Going to be doing this with Sunny nxt week I think! I cant trust him to stay upright if he had shoes on!
 
turn horses out together, without boots on,
my horses wear more than 1 rug at the same time & hoods
i only groom tack covered areas when necessary
i ride in a gag & spurs
i hack out in spurs
i ride with my whip turned round for extra force
i don't use hay nets
i have more supplements than you can shake a stick at
turnout in nylon headcollers
used a lungeline up the bum to load a horse,
travelled my horse tacked up
adminsiter drugs without vet advice/prescription
restock with drugs even if i don't need them at that time cut Pull tail, Solocomb mane
get off by swinging my right leg over his neck
turn them out even if it is raining/snowing/hailing/armageddon!
let them bring themselves in
don't buy new rugs each year, deliberatly buy the end of line crap coloured ones (IT's not pink it's CORAL!)
Don't weigh feeds
Ride bareback in from field in headcollar no hat.
DESPISE diamante browbands
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I think I'm done

(and yes most of this is C&P'd from RD's!)
 
Thought id add my bit....
- Used ACP cause was uncertain how a horse would behave to be clip ( was in fact perfect but had limited time so couldnt risk her messing about)
- Ride in spurs if needed
- always do faster work in a pelham with roundings
- lunge in a pessoa
- Use draw reins
- My mare had one set of shoes on 12 weeks
- Trot on the roads
- Often school in a baseball cap
- Buy rugs cause i like the colour
- overly rug up my grey horse to keep it clean
- When travelling horse by myself and need to move trailer just open the window and hold the rope while driving ( only a few metres ) and expect horse to behave
- Dont jump for weeks then go to a comp and expect horse to behave
- Changed feed with out intro period

And loads loads more but you know what my horse seems happy and we have won plenty of stuff over the years so cant all be bad
 
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Ride, smoke & chat on the phone....
Ride with both hands in my pockets, when really cold and only on Sienna.
Lead her around with a leadrope/baling twine round her neck or a clump of forelock
Feed lots of titbits
Aim to buy tack, rugs etc. second hand wherever possible
never wash numnahs - tend to throw them away
rarely pick out feet - isn't that what the farrier is for?
virtually never clean tack, & generally when absolutely neccessary, ie HOYS, only clean the bits on top (often when on the horse)
only generally clean the outside of my boots
Only groom when we are going to a posh party - and not always then
Feed no hard food to speak of
buy bits because I think they look nice.......
use dutch gags, grackles, draw reins - whatever seems like it will work
Virtually never have to slap or tell off any of mine, but would hit them if circumstances warranted it
trot on the roads regularly and have cantered, esp when fittening for hunting
like to jump drainage ditches on verges
Stole a whip from pony club camp - which someone left in my lorry....
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When travelling horse by myself and need to move trailer just open the window and hold the rope while driving ( only a few metres ) and expect horse to behave

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In the states we used to take the teaser stallion (some were 12hh, some were 17hh) from their respective fields to the mare barns using this method - so would often have a trotting stallion by the side of the truck for a mile or more.
 
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