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I know some may disagree, but sometimes I feel rescues go too far. Just seen on my fb a rescue asking for help to pay a £3.5 k vets bill. This is what they have posted about the dog:
He had CT and MRI scans and we were told that he had a slipped disc in his neck and found he had a spinal curvature and twisting in the thorax. Theoretically they could operate to remove the compression of his spine. However they felt it would be a risky procedure due to his abnormal anatomy ..... And adding to all of this they found evidence of a severe bony abnormality in his right limb near his shoulder. Although this could be arthritis they felt it could also be a bony tumour such as osteosarcoma. Oh and signs of kidney dysfunction. They concluded that he was not a good candidate and his long term prognosis for walking again is guarded so they recommended euthanasia while he was on the table.
They refused euthanasia and took the dog home, they are now talking about a 4 wheel cart for him. To me this is just wrong, are they really putting the dog first. Even if they weren't asking for help with the bill I wouldn't be comfortable keeping a dog going with so many problems.
 

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I agree with you. I saw another one recently, not actually asking for money, though, tbf but a malformed pupp, which had been found abandoned. It would have been far better to pts, imho.
If this is the 6 legged spaniel, they’re asking for donations. Extensive surgery and rehab.

Let’s just say my comments on fb aren’t going down well.
 

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I saw a dog, wire haired daxxie I’d guess, on two wheels at Chagford show. The owners were sitting down having a coffee, the dog just had to stand there. Now mine, if I’m parked up, will lie down and rest. This dog couldn’t. Bet they loved it a lot though. 🙄.
And as for the two cases above, words fail me. I don’t follow any dog stuff on fb bar some gundog pages, I have to consider my blood pressure.
 

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I saw a dog, wire haired daxxie I’d guess, on two wheels at Chagford show. The owners were sitting down having a coffee, the dog just had to stand there. Now mine, if I’m parked up, will lie down and rest. This dog couldn’t. Bet they loved it a lot though. 🙄.
And as for the two cases above, words fail me. I don’t follow any dog stuff on fb bar some gundog pages, I have to consider my blood pressure.
^^^^ I have a doggy wheelchair for mine - a Tekel - as he has antebrachial issues and needs as much support as he can get for his little front leg and this is one solution that we are currently using (as well as a brace); it is important with these that the owner gives the dog as much rest as possible and takes it out of the frame as often as possible.

To sit down and have a coffee and not release the dog isn't just sheer thoughtlessness, it is neglect, no other word for it. But sadly the numpty owners think they're being "kind" no doubt. Words fail me they really do.
 

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Agree it is so wrong , also I’ve seen posts about a blind old dog from abroad that they wanted a UK home for, poor thing a long journey for a healthy young dog is bad enough… 🙁. If the rescues put down any dogs with a known bite history and any with bad physical impairment and any who are too nervous to settle in a home we wouldn’t have so many dogs needing homes .. we have a local big dog on wheels and people say how wonderful it is that he can have a walk , what about the other 23 hours ?? None of mine would be put through that
 

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^^^^ I have a doggy wheelchair for mine - a Tekel - as he has antebrachial issues and needs as much support as he can get for his little front leg and this is one solution that we are currently using (as well as a brace); it is important with these that the owner gives the dog as much rest as possible and takes it out of the frame as often as possible.

To sit down and have a coffee and not release the dog isn't just sheer thoughtlessness, it is neglect, no other word for it. But sadly the numpty owners think they're being "kind" no doubt. Words fail me they really do.
I’m sorry your teckel is poorly, and you were so excited about him. Will he be able to live a normal life eventually? He can’t be a year old yet. (I know that’s off topic but I do like the breed a lot).
I didn’t realise it was easy to pop them in and out, I assumed this dog was strapped up in the morning and spent the day wheeling around. I suppose that was a bit dim. Hopefully they take it out at home.
 
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I do not understand the mindset of rescues that being put to sleep is the worst thing you can do for a dog. Given the crisis in rescue centres, and the general problem with dog ownership these days, I think any dog that fails a temperament test should be pts. Likewise any dog with complex health needs. I know the general public love a sob story, and no doubt it gives them good bragging rights to rescue dogs like this, but with the cost of living crisis how many people can really afford to commit to the long-term costs involved?
 

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I couldn’t agree more…when it’s time it’s time.

I love my vet..she’s seen me through years with my second st poodle…I spent thousands on keeping her going.

BUT…when my mini schnauzer had multiple tumours in her bladder (that had spread to her colon). …I refused her insistence to give chemo…
We agreed to disagree..and the dog had palliative care for five months before she passed.

You have to put the dog first,not your emotions..it’s the hardest part of being the owner.
 

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The kindest thing for the dog in the original post would be to pts.

I also don't agree with 'rescues' importing disabled dogs then the adopter crowdfunding to pay vets bills.
It should be stopped - surely dogs have to be vet checked as healthy to travel?? or they damn well should be, what they are putting that animal through is cruel and senseless.
 

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Yep, if I am travelling I have to take the dog to the vet in a certain time period before outward journey for a general check-over and have passport/papers stamped to confirm, same going back, but as we've already established if you stick 'rescue' in front of your dog's name/breed, all these checks and balances seem to be avoided.
 

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It should be stopped - surely dogs have to be vet checked as healthy to travel?? or they damn well should be, what they are putting that animal through is cruel and senseless.

People expect to be told they are heroes for adopting a dog with physical impairment from overseas. 'Oh yes, my dog is from xxxx, aren't I kind hearted? No, he hasn't been tested for BC, never heard of it. He needs additional vet care for his disability and on going therapy but I don't want to pay for that so I'll put a sob story on GoFundMe and other suckers can pay'
 

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Agree with everything everyone has said, how is any of this putting the dog first? Some things work out well in the end for the dog, but how many times does it just continue in a downwards spiral until finally the right decision is made. How many other dogs could be helped using that money. Think maybe the RSPCA should visit the "rescue" centre on cruelty grounds.
Poor dog.
 

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I know some may disagree, but sometimes I feel rescues go too far. Just seen on my fb a rescue asking for help to pay a £3.5 k vets bill. This is what they have posted about the dog:
He had CT and MRI scans and we were told that he had a slipped disc in his neck and found he had a spinal curvature and twisting in the thorax. Theoretically they could operate to remove the compression of his spine. However they felt it would be a risky procedure due to his abnormal anatomy ..... And adding to all of this they found evidence of a severe bony abnormality in his right limb near his shoulder. Although this could be arthritis they felt it could also be a bony tumour such as osteosarcoma. Oh and signs of kidney dysfunction. They concluded that he was not a good candidate and his long term prognosis for walking again is guarded so they recommended euthanasia while he was on the table.
They refused euthanasia and took the dog home, they are now talking about a 4 wheel cart for him. To me this is just wrong, are they really putting the dog first. Even if they weren't asking for help with the bill I wouldn't be comfortable keeping a dog going with so many problems.

I have so many unanswered questions. With those anatomical abnormalities + a suspected bony tumour + signs of kidney dysfunction, I'm a bit shocked anyone can think about wanting to go on with anything, without first at least finding out if the severe bony growth is an osteosarcoma tumour, which as I understand it comes with an average life expectancy of 6 months. Or whether it's caused by something else, such as arthritis.

On the other hand, even if it isn't cancer, when I had a slipped disc/herniated disc in my back some years ago, it was occasionally quite painful, and it took years for my body to self-heal. This dog have a slipped disc in the neck, if they're not trying to surgically correct it, how long will it take to self-heal, and thereby no longer risk causing pain? What about the spinal curvature, isn't there a risk that could occasionally cause a painful pinch in the back nerves?
Did they at least manage to do anything about the twisted thorax? If not, how does that affect the life expectancy? And what's the risk for the kidneys deciding to keel over within x time frame?

As said, I have so many questions, yet, they're focusing on that he needs a 4 wheel cart? Does that mean all 4 legs isn't working properly, or just 1 or 2? Even though I'm not a big fan of wheelchairs for dogs, I could see myself at least considering using one for an otherwise well functioning dog, with 1 or 2 legs who maybe during some part of the day, such as a long dog walk, needed a bit temporary support. Not sure I would still do it, but depending on the dog, as said, I might consider it. Or perhaps I could just drag our old pram with me, and my dog could have a temporary rest in the pram when needed.
But a dog with the above list of problems...

Some people seems to be more about the self-fulfilling need to be a saviour, than actually caring about the individual's quality of life.
 

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If this is the 6 legged spaniel, they’re asking for donations. Extensive surgery and rehab.

Let’s just say my comments on fb aren’t going down well.
Part absorbed littermate? Either way, the pup should’ve been culled. I’m hard hearted when it comes to these sob stories and I think dogs with such big issues ought to be pts rather than be put through endless treatment. Also, how many other healthy dogs could be rescued/re-homed with that kind of money to advertise/temporarily keep them in rescue?

If it came to mine, I dunno. We made swift decisions on discovering Jake and Zak had cancer, we refused to have them suffer, the prognosis was poor for both. Breaks my heart still, but I couldn’t look at them when they were so unwell and let them carry on in pain.
 

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I agree with what has been posted on here; the animal's needs, welbeing and welfare aren't being put first by the humans responsible for 'caring' for them.

It is interesting that in this day and age we are starting as a society to talk about the possibility of human assisted dying for cases when someone is physically suffering, but at the same time society seems to be becoming less and less keen on putting animals to sleep to avoid their suffering.
 

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Part absorbed littermate? Either way, the pup should’ve been culled. I’m hard hearted when it comes to these sob stories and I think dogs with such big issues ought to be pts rather than be put through endless treatment. Also, how many other healthy dogs could be rescued/re-homed with that kind of money to advertise/temporarily keep them in rescue?

If it came to mine, I dunno. We made swift decisions on discovering Jake and Zak had cancer, we refused to have them suffer, the prognosis was poor for both. Breaks my heart still, but I couldn’t look at them when they were so unwell and let them carry on in pain.
Practically word for word what I’ve said on fb.

And we did the same with Jack. Xxx
 

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I’ve had a look back at a few posts on the page .This dog came from abroad originally around 8 years ago . Has been kept by the rescue as he had so many issues, including leishmania. He seems to have had surgery at Fitzpatricks for which they were looking for donations of £10k, loads of other treatments over the years . I despair !
 

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I saw the 6 legged Spaniel today on a newsfeed on my phone. There were xrays that look to me (no expert or even good novice knowlege but read human xrays) as if the leg bones and hips of all 4 bag legs were poorly formed/jointed. The little dog has 4 back legs and some tissue forming a 2nd vulva. Even with the legs amputated none of the hip joints looked well articulated and lower bones looked all wrong. But what would I know..... I hope that a vet will refuse to operate. I would never give money to these rescues as they spend it on all the wrong things.
 

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I saw the 6 legged Spaniel today on a newsfeed on my phone. There were xrays that look to me (no expert or even good novice knowlege but read human xrays) as if the leg bones and hips of all 4 bag legs were poorly formed/jointed. The little dog has 4 back legs and some tissue forming a 2nd vulva. Even with the legs amputated none of the hip joints looked well articulated and lower bones looked all wrong. But what would I know..... I hope that a vet will refuse to operate. I would never give money to these rescues as they spend it on all the wrong things.
It has a deformed pelvis, one hip joint socket and stands to loose three back legs. And yes potentially two vulva’s.

I actually think it’s totally immoral to raise funds for surgery for this poor little dog.
 

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The spaniel pup has a beautiful appealing face and is of course adorable looking. I for one would gladly volunteer to hold her and love her as she was PTS. I would have no qualms about whether or not I was doing the right thing - she can still feel love and attention and comfort - but her suffering would end. If I could buy her I would raise funds to end her suffering.
 
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