:-( Thor the rescue horse

[meleeka]

The RSPCA IMHO can't be expected to publically justify every equine PTS. They are inundated with reports of equine suffering and can only take in a few, so some animals which could have been saved have to be PTS as there's no room to take them in. They have just 3 specialist equine rescue centres in England, in Shropshire, Surrey and in Co Durham. They also have a network of 'private boarding' yards who take in some of the excess, and it sounds like this yard was one of those.

I'm not defending them willy nilly, they certainly don't get everything right but they do have some really good knowlegable equine staff such as the ones at their Shropshire equine centre, who I've fostered from in the past.

The RSPCA MUST rigorously investigate and treat these horses as a matter of utmost urgency. If they have been using a rogue private boarding facility, then they need to come clean and make steps to ensure that it doesn't happen again.

It appears the RSPCA already had a failed prosecution against this woman regarding a dog, yet they then used her for boarding horses.

The shame is that all the horses had the offers of new homes before Team Thor took them in. None of these horses should have ended up pts and that’s happened because the RSPCA didn’t bring a previous prosecution correctly, allowing this woman to carry on.

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

They have just 3 specialist equine rescue centres in England, in Shropshire, Surrey and in Co Durham. n.

The Surrey one closed with no notice in April, all animals taken to other sites within 2 days and its been empty since. Lots of 'rumbling' from the horse owning public, but no response from local or national level except to say there was staffing problems. Methinks as its in prime house building area, that it could poss be sold to realise the asset as there are no longer animals there. Also, as its empty, that negates the terms of the gift of the land and buildings that the original donor put in place. Huge shame.

 

[Merlod]

The RSPCA IMHO can't be expected to publically justify every equine PTS. They are inundated with reports of equine suffering and can only take in a few, so some animals which could have been saved have to be PTS as there's no room to take them in. They have just 3 specialist equine rescue centres in England, in Shropshire, Surrey and in Co Durham. They also have a network of 'private boarding' yards who take in some of the excess, and it sounds like this yard was one of those.

Yet again they pts the horses for which there are people ready and willing to take on and keep on filling their rescue centres with bin end cobs taken from the gypsies. I just don't understand.

 

[ester]

I don't buy the 'no room so we have to PTS' argument when there were breeders and previous owners of arabs desperately trying to find out what was happening and get them returned.

I really feel for the recycled racehorses team (falconry) who had their loan agreement of Weaam terminated last week and returned him before any of this broke, I hope they can get him back.

 

[meleeka]

I really feel for the recycled racehorses team (falconry) who had their loan agreement of Weaam terminated last week and returned him before any of this broke, I hope they can get him back.

Sadly I don’t think they will as he didn’t belong to them . Something happened down here where a group requested to help the RSPCA and had good approved homes and it wasn’t until somebody who knew somebody high up intervened that this happened. The poor animals would have been shot otherwise no doubt.. The RSPCA said it was against their policy and pretty much said “butt out we can cope” when they clearly couldn’t.

 

[ozpoz]

I hope Recycled Racehorses get Weeam back too - heartbreaking for them.

 

[ester]

No but he belongs to a rescue which is now defunct and has a good home waiting for him so I hope sense prevails.

 

[Tiddlypom]

The Surrey one closed with no notice in April, all animals taken to other sites within 2 days and its been empty since.

That's bad news. I hope the other two centres are safe at least.

If there have been reports about this woman for a while, and a failed prosecution against her, then it does beg the question of wtf the higher levels of the RSPCA were up to. There are many really good folk working for them as staff and as volunteers, they deserve better, and so of course do the animals in need.

 

[ozpoz]

I've just read that everything in the barn was shot. Even although they were clearly managing to eat and drink. Is there another welfare organisation that would act in this way? I don't think so.

 

[ester]

the shot numbers were 2 then 4 then 7. Apparently when the people there said 7 they weren't corrected.

Also reports that an RSPCA inspector liveries there and asked one of the others to pick their tack up. It reads as brilliantly as previous incidences.

Her name brings you to this old thread, so I guess the RSPCA think they were wrongly prosecuting her..
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/archive/index.php/t-586363.html

 

[Tiddlypom]

Where are you guys finding these updates?

 

[jofwigby]

Its all over facebook - this was / is the original group that campaigned for the Coney Lane horses before they were removed by Team Thor. https://www.facebook.com/groups/178...1531736739927554&notif_t=group_comment_follow

 

[dominobrown]

I was going to originally say the RSPCA wouldn't have to justify why every horse was pit to sleep but in the case and many more I actually stand by what I originally said....
There needs to be more transparency in their actions, it's a charity and does it receive public funding? It certainly would be good practice to keep everything above board and take detailed evidence from each horse and each case.
I also stand by my original comment of "corruption in the RSPCA" and as more details come out about this case I am unfortunately being proved right.
The horses were eating and drinking... they could of recovered but instead here quickly pts probably to reduce the prosecution.
There should be no rumour mill with a charity of this size... everything should be made clear and be dealt with correctly. Statements should be delivered to the public to prevent rumours and ensure transparency.

 

[meleeka]

I was going to originally say the RSPCA wouldn't have to justify why every horse was pit to sleep but in the case and many more I actually stand by what I originally said....
There needs to be more transparency in their actions, it's a charity and does it receive public funding? It certainly would be good practice to keep everything above board and take detailed evidence from each horse and each case.
I also stand by my original comment of "corruption in the RSPCA" and as more details come out about this case I am unfortunately being proved right.
The horses were eating and drinking... they could of recovered but instead here quickly pts probably to reduce the prosecution.
There should be no rumour mill with a charity of this size... everything should be made clear and be dealt with correctly. Statements should be delivered to the public to prevent rumours and ensure transparency.

Totally agree. The trouble is, if they were honest and transparent donations would no doubt fall, which would obviously be a huge problem. I was directly involved in a case and they wouldn’t give any information, even to the local authority who had requested their help. It’s the lack of information which gives them such problems on social media but they seem to think people will just accept they are wonderful and not question.

 

[jmd481]

This yard is in bromsgrove!! The woman also has her own yard in Henley I just hope those horses aren't suffering like these!!! The yard these horses where found at had ample grazing for 6max but why allow more horses if there wasn't enough grazing...... the horses where found in barns and stables why wasn't they out in the fields she has all round the yard? Clearly she was hiding something

 

[ester]

Apparently Thor was at her other yard?

 

[jmd481]

I'm not too sure where Thor is but as far as I'm aware he wasn't at this yard so if he's still in her care then most possibly he's at the other yard

 

[Mule]

I'm not too sure where Thor is but as far as I'm aware he wasn't at this yard so if he's still in her care then most possibly he's at the other yard

I hope Thor is ok. Poor boy, he's had a tough life.

 

[meleeka]

I’ve just been watching a video of horses stood round an empty trough with proper full neck turnouts on, in this heat!! I’m surprised some of them aren’t dead already.

I do hope this case will raise questions about the accountability of the RSPCA, but the trouble is, who else is there?! Councils and police don’t want to know due to lack of funds and nobody wants to tread on the RSPCA’s toes.

 

[buffy2]

It's been on central news tonight , their is news circulating that Thor is not in a good way , got rug on and the others in the picture are skinny , the people involved have only seen pictures so far :-(

 

[Mule]

I hope they don't shoot the horses in the other yard too

 

[buffy2]

Mule
I hope not x it's local to me , I popped in to my local saddlery today and people were talking about it , it's very sad

 

[Mule]

Mule
I hope not x it's local to me , I popped in to my local saddlery today and people were talking about it , it's very sad

It's strange it's got to the point where we're hoping the RSPCA don't kill them

 

[ester]

People were there before with the arabs, but yes it still feels odd if not unexpected.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Indeed.

There is a change org petition circulating re these poor horses. It's maybe not the best worded, but it's something if folk want to register their anger at this situation.

https://www.change.org/p/horse-welf...utm_campaign=autopublish&utm_term=autopublish


We NEED a functional RSPCA. If it falls, animal welfare will be even more compromised. Wtf is going on with this organisation?

 

[Mule]

Signed

 

[meleeka]

Has anyone else seen this?
https://www.facebook.com/paulaa.jones.5/videos/10160539393925075/

He doesn’t appear to have read the Animal Welfare Act and this attitude is what is wrong with the RSPCA. Perhaps they ought to have a laminated copy of the relevenant bits about being “in a situation likely to cause suffering” to show a visiting vet (although in my experience the vet just says what they are told to).

 

[jnb]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-en...ciated-horses-found-at-worcestershire-stables

 

[sprytzer]

How can the RSPCA launch any investigation given that these horses were placed with her by them?
Allegedly she is a holding yardfor the RSPCA!
No doubt there is going to be a big cover up on this case!

 

[Equi]

Definitely will be a cover up. RSPCA now on the poor us method saying they are having to cancel fundraising events because of threats and how are they going to survive etc.

Many of the horses removed on a lorry (10 I believe) didn’t make the journey. Five died in transit including the brood mare. Unsure what has now happened to the foal.

Another post I read said an rspca officer liveried at that yard, and as soon as this happened removed her horse. So presumably she had seen this happening every day. I can’t verify this as truth, but if it is....wow...

And of course all comments/people who are not saying that’s terrible for you (rspca) are being deleted and banned.