Those over 45 with pre 1997 licences - help!!!

You do not need to spend anymore than £50 for a medical, there is no stipulation that you have to go to your own doctor.

Sorry but you are wrong I was sent a D4 from the DVLA which requested the GP to fill in and name address and signature and that is the form i paid for it to be filled in. I have copies of my D4 as I scanned it before I sent it to the DVLA so I am hardly going to go for a cheap one which to me when your driving a large vehicle on the public road get something the DVLA would question the form when I sent it to them and may deny it ands till request their D4 to be filled in
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/490689/D4_231115.pdf
 
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Sorry but |I go to my doctor and that is the cost I go to someone I trust

Trust has nothing to do with it, a class 2 is a class 2. You answer the questions as asked in the order on the form, you undertake the bp test, you pee in the pot and you do the eye test. Any doctor doing class 2 will be fully qualified doctors.
 
It is on my original driving licence as I passed my test in 1981

You will have taken an additional test to be holding any form of HGV not just your original car test. I passed my car test in 79 and took HGV and PSV stick box in 94 to drive for a living. It is the 1994 licences I have to maintain with class 2 medicals.
 
You will have taken an additional test to be holding any form of HGV not just your original car test. I passed my car test in 79 and took HGV and PSV stick box in 94 to drive for a living. It is the 1994 licences I have to maintain with class 2 medicals.

No I did not take an additional test and I have the C1 on my license the C1 is up top 7.5 ton
 
It is my understanding that you do not need a medical then, unless you have had a health issue that affects your car licence. Perhaps ROG can correct me ?

look I am not going to argue the toss my GP filled in the D4 the DVLA sent to me this year and 5 years ago exactly the same form There was no pee in the pot requested just going through the form in it's entirety + the vision test, once they approved it my new photo ID card was sent back valid till 2021.

ROG huh is he with the DVLA??? They are who deals with it and if in doubt call them get it from the horses mouth
 
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look I am not going to argue the toss my GP filled in the D4 the DVLA sent to me this year and 5 years ago exactly the same form There was no pee in the pot requested just going through the form in it's entirety + the vision test, once they approved it my new photo ID card was sent back valid till 2021.

ROG huh is he with the DVLA??? They are who deals with it and if in doubt call them get it from the horses mouth

Nice earner for your doctor, it is you who needs to contact the DVLA. It appears you do not need a medical and it is your money you are wasting.
 
Nice earner for your doctor, it is you who needs to contact the DVLA. It appears you do not need a medical and it is your money you are wasting.

Bloody hell
You asking me to believe what you say ?? A nobody just words on a computer screen who I don't know and are not anything to do with my case nor the DVLA!!



Am I supposed to ignore the D4 they sent me and ask to fill in????


I not only called them WHEN I received the medical 4 months ago but again before I sent it. They were not sending me my photo drivers licence till I had the form sent in for approval. I have no reason to trust what you say as you mean nothing in the light of my driving medical form - the DVLA and my lisence. I know what I was asked - what I did and when i got my license back
 
Bloody hell
You asking me to believe what you say ?? A nobody just words on a computer screen who I don't know and are not anything to do with my case nor the DVLA!!



Am I supposed to ignore the D4 they sent me and ask to fill in????


I not only called them WHEN I received the medical 4 months ago but again before I sent it. They were not sending me my photo drivers licence till I had the form sent in for approval. I have no reason to trust what you say as you mean nothing in the light of my driving medical form - the DVLA and my lisence. I know what I was asked - what I did and when i got my license back

'Licence'
 
I'm actually one without a photo card license. At the time there were just too many scare stories of entitlements being revoked "by accident" and then being impossible to get back without more money. I've never changed address and have no notifiable medical conditions so I just didn't bother.

A colleague told me that photo card licenses only last 10 years because the photo goes out of date. I don't dispute the forms were sent in error - but do these licenses expire? Might that be why?

This is what worries me.
I have been trying to change the address on my driving licence since September, everything is SO draconian now.
I had the old green paper licence and because of entitlements disappearing (bikers losing their full licence entitlement mainly and I have the full bike and car licence) I photocopied my licence before sending it off using signed for delivery.Royal mail failed to get a signature and declared it lost.
3 weeks later the whole letter with my application form, proof of ID and photos turned back up here.
They rejected my application as although I gave them plenty of evidence of where I live now I don't have a passport and could not find my birth certificate (which they actually SAY on their form a birth certificate is NO PROOF OF ID!!) so ridiculous
So, I had to get a new certified copy of my birth certificate to show them. I applied for one and the company I paid early £30 to for the certified copy were supposed to send it after 4 business days, 4 weeks later and no copy. I got on to them and they said they were having problems with printing them out and it was "out of their hands"
2 weeks later still no BC so I had to get on to Trading Standards to give them a kick up the proverbial and low and behold, after 3 days it turned up.
Sent that off and yes you have guessed it royal mail failed to get a signature and it's lost!
ALL I ever wanted to do was change my address and what really peeves me is I see and hear of drivers out there with fake licences, no licences , no tax, no insurance, no mot and yet I am the one who is made to prove who I am just to change my address!
I still have no licence with my new address on!
Be warned if you change address it's a night mare
They really do go over board and target the wrong people
 
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We are now in a world of computer generated stats . They run programmes that identify anything other than what they call normal. It is far easier to cop a fine from someone who has inadvertently crossed the line (eg a sorn)than to catch the real criminals. So ,you get a much greater income from catching honest folk with red tape than crooks. Because we the majority are law abiding,we also have become a sitting target for penalties(taxation)by alleged infringement .Its simple economics,we honest folk are the best to rip off!
 
When I reached 50 I had to do a dvla medical and eye test to keep the 7.5 = LGV C1 HGV 7.5 ton on my license to be able to drive my horse box. I have filled in one so far and just filled another one, you will need one of these every 5 years It cost about £ 100 and something to your doctor to carry out the medical. I advice you have your eyes tested before you go otherwise if the doctor fails you you lose that medical.
Did you pass a test to get the LGV C1 ?
It is on my original driving licence as I passed my test in 1981
In that case there is no need to do a medical as all pre 1997 categories are valid until age 70

What reason did DVLA give ?
 
Did you pass a test to get the LGV C1 ?

In that case there is no need to do a medical as all pre 1997 categories are valid until age 70

What reason did DVLA give ?

Thank goodness for that, I am right then, thanks ROG. Here is the link for the medicals http://www.driver-medical.co.uk/bromsgrove/ it is searchable on google so I guess I am not breaking any rules.

I work very closely with the DVLA and VOSA and mistakes are common place for both. Their databases are not particularly good, so I expect the poster Tyssandi who seems to think she has a HGV licence but actually does not, is a victim of DVLA's system failure. Her doctor certainly won't question whether she needs the medical or not, hence she is paying for something she does not need.
 
Thank goodness for that, I am right then, thanks ROG. Here is the link for the medicals http://www.driver-medical.co.uk/bromsgrove/ it is searchable on google so I guess I am not breaking any rules.

I work very closely with the DVLA and VOSA and mistakes are common place for both. Their databases are not particularly good, so I expect the poster Tyssandi who seems to think she has a HGV licence but actually does not, is a victim of DVLA's system failure. Her doctor certainly won't question whether she needs the medical or not, hence she is paying for something she does not need.

Good price in that link = lower than most
 
As you're here ROG what categories do a 3.5T & 7.5T fall into? Also will I still be able to tow after my 70th?

I decided the cost of a medical as I am over 70 was expensive. I have a letter from the DVLA saying I can tow up to 8 tonnes gross on my licence but not drive 7.4 ton lorries. I have also obtained at no charge a certificate to tow horses over 50 miles round trip but have to fill in a form to take with me on longer journeys stating times ect.
 
I decided the cost of a medical as I am over 70 was expensive. I have a letter from the DVLA saying I can tow up to 8 tonnes gross on my licence but not drive 7.4 ton lorries. I have also obtained at no charge a certificate to tow horses over 50 miles round trip but have to fill in a form to take with me on longer journeys stating times ect.

With retaining only B and B+E will mean simply this in regards to the licence
You can drive any vehicle plated not more than 3500kg (3.5 tonnes) GVW
You can tow a trailer plated not more than 3500kg (3.5 tonnes) MAM
By default the total max will be 7000kgs or 7 tonnes
 
With retaining only B and B+E will mean simply this in regards to the licence
You can drive any vehicle plated not more than 3500kg (3.5 tonnes) GVW
You can tow a trailer plated not more than 3500kg (3.5 tonnes) MAM
By default the total max will be 7000kgs or 7 tonnes

Surely if the test was passed pre Jan 19th 2013 the trailer may be any weight as long as the combination is within construction and use regulations. I have a friend tows with discovery a 4,000kg mam trailer( fitted air/hydraulic brakes) on a B+E licence legally .
 
Surely if the test was passed pre Jan 19th 2013 the trailer may be any weight as long as the combination is within construction and use regulations. I have a friend tows with discovery a 4,000kg mam trailer( fitted air/hydraulic brakes) on a B+E licence legally .
Correct - they are a rarity which is why I did not mention them
 
Did you pass a test to get the LGV C1 ?

In that case there is no need to do a medical as all pre 1997 categories are valid until age 70

What reason did DVLA give ?
Ok sorted

My old horsebox was wooden and I thought maybe too heavy with living and horses so I was going to do my HGV test but could not afford to do it so did not. Apparently what the medical is for is the provisional for the C category for over 7.5 tons. So I don't have to do a medical for the C+ but the medical is for the C category.
 
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