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In all honesty, I'd get someone to take your Dad out for the day, ring for the knackerman and get the job done then when he comes back tell him the horse had a heart attack/collapsed/broke a leg in the stable or something and it had to be done immediately. I say use a knackerman as they will take away the body immediately so no body for him to inspect if left there.
Before you all jump on me, this 'neglect' has been going on for a long while which means at his age, the horse is at rock bottom and will never improve unless he consistently has the best of care which we know will not happen even with the best will in the world from FM and it can't be left to her father who will do nothing for him; even then it will take all the year and more to get back into good nic, that's even supposing his system hasn't given up already as old horses are the very worst to improve condition on even when in the best of health.
Poor old man, I feel so sorry for him; 12 years being kept like that is horrendous and he's better off out of it.
 
If you can't afford to call the vet out then contact WHW like everyone else said to do, don't let the poor horse suffer, dads are a nightmare and you got to over rule them sometimes to do what's best especially if he's suffering from dementia
 
Maesfen said:
In all honesty, I'd get someone to take your Dad out for the day, ring for the knackerman and get the job done then when he comes back tell him the horse had a heart attack/collapsed/broke a leg in the stable or something and it had to be done immediately. I say use a knackerman as they will take away the body immediately so no body for him to inspect if left there.
Before you all jump on me, this 'neglect' has been going on for a long while which means at his age, the horse is at rock bottom and will never improve unless he consistently has the best of care which we know will not happen even with the best will in the world from FM and it can't be left to her father who will do nothing for him; even then it will take all the year and more to get back into good nic, that's even supposing his system hasn't given up already as old horses are the very worst to improve condition on even when in the best of health.
Poor old man, I feel so sorry for him; 12 years being kept like that is horrendous and he's better off out of it.
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Maesfen, this is what I'd be inclined to do too.
 
Maesfen said:
In all honesty, I'd get someone to take your Dad out for the day, ring for the knackerman and get the job done then when he comes back tell him the horse had a heart attack/collapsed/broke a leg in the stable or something and it had to be done immediately. I say use a knackerman as they will take away the body immediately so no body for him to inspect if left there.
Before you all jump on me, this 'neglect' has been going on for a long while which means at his age, the horse is at rock bottom and will never improve unless he consistently has the best of care which we know will not happen even with the best will in the world from FM and it can't be left to her father who will do nothing for him; even then it will take all the year and more to get back into good nic, that's even supposing his system hasn't given up already as old horses are the very worst to improve condition on even when in the best of health.
Poor old man, I feel so sorry for him; 12 years being kept like that is horrendous and he's better off out of it.
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This. Hope WHW come through, otherwise your just going to have to sort it out. I work with people with dementia they not who they once were, its degenerative, he will only become more difficult to deal with, with the horse in a better place you can concentrate on having a relationship with your father before it gets worse. And you rest easy knowing the poor old horse is out of pain.
 
At 31 he is on borrowed time but that said you have posted several times about this horse so you clearly care. He is still going bless him, so is obviously has a fighting spirit.

That said I personally would have got the dentist in a long time ago so at least his teeth were sorted!

If your father can't catch him turn the bloody thing out !!!!!!! At least he an have some freedom and access to food! The nicer weather is coming so he may pick up or he will go downhill to a point he collapses and can't get up!

As someone who wanted to find their first pony had dropped down dead of a heart attack I was forced to make a decision - it haunts me to this day. I tried to keep her going when I should have let her go weeks before! Some thing I have vowed never to let happen again.

Horses rarely drop down dead!

arrange to have the horse PTS by injection then call your dad and say you found him dead. If you do nothing you are as bad as he is!
 
Lovely lady on the phone, they will come out within the next 2-3 working days. They will try and see the horse first without seeing dad - it is possible, but if they did see him, they will tell him they are following up a phone call from a member of the public. I realise this could easily mean 2+2, but there is a caravan park there, and the lady who has brought my trailer, so I can still contest my innocence.
We will go from there.
 
Maesfen said:
In all honesty, I'd get someone to take your Dad out for the day, ring for the knackerman and get the job done then when he comes back tell him the horse had a heart attack/collapsed/broke a leg in the stable or something and it had to be done immediately. I say use a knackerman as they will take away the body immediately so no body for him to inspect if left there.
Before you all jump on me, this 'neglect' has been going on for a long while which means at his age, the horse is at rock bottom and will never improve unless he consistently has the best of care which we know will not happen even with the best will in the world from FM and it can't be left to her father who will do nothing for him; even then it will take all the year and more to get back into good nic, that's even supposing his system hasn't given up already as old horses are the very worst to improve condition on even when in the best of health.
Poor old man, I feel so sorry for him; 12 years being kept like that is horrendous and he's better off out of it.
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Agreed :(
 
i think you should just step in and look after the horse yes i know your dad is attached to the horse but its not fair.
plus you cant feed the horse Oats&comp mix if its not being ridden let alone going out!
if hes in that bad of a state you should step up and take over seek medical advise from your vet and explain to your dad its not how horses are treated that way he can still keep the horse but the horse is getting better care.

why cant you fill up the water put the horse out or give it proper feed if you have mares up there?
 
Your father should be made to realise how wrong he has been to let the horse get into such a state but I know it is all too easy for us to say.

Keep us posted. You have most definitely done the right thing.
 
OP for the Horse to be in that state means the poor thing has been suffering for a very long time!!! Which you have sat by and done nothing until now. I am sorry to hear of your fathers illness. But that is no excuse. This call shouldv'e been made a very long time ago. I am quite disgusted that you have only just got round to doing it. Poor Horse :(
 
You and the rest of your family need to get your fingers out and take control of this horse, I would not give a dam if in doing so it created a problem with a father, this horse can't take care of it'self, I am goibsmacked that if the horse is as bad as you say that it has got this far, do something now !!
 
As others have said this is a difficult situation but I'm pleased you are now doing something proactive.

I'm afraid I wouldn't have been considerate of relationships if I knew a horse was suffering.
 
I haven't read all the replies (at work so not much free time).Has your Dad seen a doctor recently? Does the doctor feel that your Dad has capacity to continue to make decisions about the welfare of the horse (Dr may find that tricky to answer, but if rural practice might be ok). It may be worth your Dad being referred to an Older peoples Mental Health Team, as I suspect that there are other issues, not just horse care, going on here. Lack of anger control can be part of vascular dementia (and alzheimers, but not as common), which can cause relatives to have even more problems.
If the Dr feels that your Dad does not have capacity to make decisions regarding the horse, then provided this is documented, the vet will act on the instructions of the family. Good luck and pm if you need any more info (I am a mental health social worker)
 
LaurenBay said:
OP for the Horse to be in that state means the poor thing has been suffering for a very long time!!! Which you have sat by and done nothing until now. I am sorry to hear of your fathers illness. But that is no excuse. This call shouldv'e been made a very long time ago. I am quite disgusted that you have only just got round to doing it. Poor Horse :(
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Yes but it is very easy to say that when it isn't you. I have read a lot of what the OP has gone through with her father and family and it isn't pleasent. She is only just getting back on target with her father and I can see where that puts her, between a rock and a hard place.

Well done FM for biting the bullet and doing it. I know it can't be easy and I respect it.
 
Please do the right thing by the horse otherwise you are actually as guilty as your father, sorry but in a nutshell you are allowing this to happen, or pm me your address and I will do it for you, I don't think WHW need to know whether the informer has been to the address or not, I have seen your photos on the forum and he looked miserable and thin, isnt that enough for someone to take action. Be strong and make the right decision.
 
I dont know anything about your family situation as I havent read any other posts by you, however I have read posts here from people who do know a bit more about you, and I have to say, I am so glad you have done the right thing in what appears to be a very difficult situation. Please dont listen to those here who seem to think that they would reacte differently, walk a day in another mans mocassins before you judge! I hope this is resolved soon for everyone, including your father, who sounds like he needs help. I agree with the poster who suggested Mental health team and GP. Dementia is an awful thing to deal with, and at some point the family has to take control, as your father sounds to be at a point where his judgement is impaired. Please update with an outcome.x
 
Call rhe WHW. You're father is also ill of I remember, so unless you take over the horses care that's your only option.
 
I'm sorry but still is no excuse when a living breathing animal is left suffering for this long to get into the state that he is currently in. I know for certain I would not have been able to sit by and let this happen, because I dont want too fall out with someone. In my eyes the OP is just as guilty for allowing it to continue. But what matters now is that the OP has finally done right by the Horse and hopefully he will get the help he needs!
 
The horse 3-4 weeks ago when he was out getting grass. He isn't quite so well covered now, more highlighted by some loss of his winter coat, but also lack of Dr Green!
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I've been at my father for a long time about his horse, trying to get the problem resolved. My step mother and mother has also been trying to help, but we havn't achieved much. Yes, I should have done something sooner, but perhaps waiting and hoping for father to make some improvements first.
Please bear in mind, that father has 100 head of cattle, who are in very good condition and fed well. Also please note that when my old TB was in his care - semi retired due to bad feet, companion to this horse, he was looked after well and duly taken to the kennels BEFORE his lameness took hold. (albeit with no notice, but I don't hold that grudge). Dad has done right by them, just not his horses. (His old horse was the same sadly before he collapsed and was PTS in 1989).
 
Have seen worse to be honest but I hope something can be done. If you are worried about repercussions from your Dad, tell him it was me reporting it, I have a thick skin and couldn't give a flying F about what he might or might not do or say to me, tell him I was with someone in one of the caravans and as a saddler I was looking at a saddle on your horses or something along those lines but you've done the right thing by reporting it. It's not easy to report family as I reported my uncle once who was keeping dogs and birds in cruel conditions. I got it in the neck but they managed to save one bird at least.
Oz :)
 
LaurenBay said:
I'm sorry but still is no excuse when a living breathing animal is left suffering for this long to get into the state that he is currently in. I know for certain I would not have been able to sit by and let this happen, because I dont want too fall out with someone. In my eyes the OP is just as guilty for allowing it to continue. But what matters now is that the OP has finally done right by the Horse and hopefully he will get the help he needs!
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I think we would all like to think that we would do the right thing if faced with a situation like this, and I'm sure we are all agreed (including the OP) what the right thing is. What I was trying to say was that none of us can judge someone elses actions, we cant tell how they feel, other factors involved. I'm sure there was a lot of soul searching before the OP made the call, but I'm also sure that she feels relieved now to have acted.
 
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