thoughts - sore muscles / lethagy

[SEL]

I wonder whether he's actually over heating travelling or sweating up due to stress. Over time my mare has become a nightmare to load and I think its because her muscles have to work harder on the lorry just keeping her balance. I recently refused to travel her 45 mins to the vet hospital because I couldn't see how they could distinguish muscle pain from lameness after a trip. That is the one advantage of a positive genetic test for PSSM - there's no argument that they have a problem and need workarounds.

If you do continue to struggle then I also use muscle relaxants at times - robaxin - and that really helps. I use them to help her recover from bad periods but also in advance of travelling. Obviously you need a prescription, especially as they are human drugs and you are using them off licence in horses.

Let us know how the increased vitamin E goes.

 

[Scarlett]

Any ideas how being grass affected eg muscles tighter when grass flushes ties in?

Look on the Calm Healthy Horses website.

My horse sounds similar to yours. We tried PSSM protocols and tested him but came back negative. His muscles were sore and tight and he looked like he was tying up (among other issues) and we finally found a calcium deficiency which ties in with an imbalance in the grass (had been on grazing with a high clover ratio) of not enough magnesium and calcium and too much potassium. I found a big difference on AlleviateC. I've put all my horses on it and all looser, moving better and coping better with grass flushes.

Horses all TB exracers, and a homebred 5yo from one of my TB's, so athletic types. My big lad, who was by far the worst affected, is a big moving, well bred TB who can jump the moon on a good day, and barely trot over a pole on a bad one. As he got worse it escalated to not moving at all. My 5yo ended up at that point too, stuck on the spot not moving, within 2 weeks she was fine again. Interestingly I think it started when we moved to a certain yard as I also had one out on loan at the time and he was absolutely fine!

 

[flying_high]

Look on the Calm Healthy Horses website.

My horse sounds similar to yours. We tried PSSM protocols and tested him but came back negative. His muscles were sore and tight and he looked like he was tying up (among other issues) and we finally found a calcium deficiency which ties in with an imbalance in the grass (had been on grazing with a high clover ratio) of not enough magnesium and calcium and too much potassium. I found a big difference on AlleviateC. I've put all my horses on it and all looser, moving better and coping better with grass flushes.

Horses all TB exracers, and a homebred 5yo from one of my TB's, so athletic types. My big lad, who was by far the worst affected, is a big moving, well bred TB who can jump the moon on a good day, and barely trot over a pole on a bad one. As he got worse it escalated to not moving at all. My 5yo ended up at that point too, stuck on the spot not moving, within 2 weeks she was fine again. Interestingly I think it started when we moved to a certain yard as I also had one out on loan at the time and he was absolutely fine!

Yes, he is already on the calm healthy horse supplements. He is grass affected to some extent, but not sure it is the whole story. His muscles get worse when move to fresh grass (I don't control field rotation).

He has been on the Graz-ezy and Alleviate C for about 2 months. I think it does help but not sure it has resulted in a normal horse. His urine is still pH 8 (tested this morning).

His base line is fairly normal now IMO, but more exertion / travelling etc. seems to leave him sore next day, which makes me think is something else going on too.

Do you feed more than 50ml of Allevate C?