Tia and Henryhorn....honey dressings???? (or all who may know of them)

[JadeWisc]

It has been suggested in "another spot"

That you two may know about honey dressings reducing proud flesh. What is this about , I have not heard of them before.
Thanks in advance to any info

 

[Angua2]

Honey is another home remedy up there with maggots, mouldy bread and clean cobwebs. being a microbiologist by training I have heard of this, not sure of the details, but from what i understand you put the honey on the dressing and bandage in place.

 

[Enfys]

How's he doing Jade?

Sorry, I can't help with the honey dressing.

 

[JadeWisc]

Well if you could just observe him with his dressings on you would hardly know there is a problem now! His limping is all but gone!

When I was changing the woulnd yesterday however I noticed that a large portion of the wound has indeed died. The vet suspected this part would though so I have been expecting it.

Monday all dressings are to come off and the wound is supposed to begin the dryout process (fingers crossed it goes fast!) I am dreading this part the most!


Vet says when the proud flesh comes he will come and snip it off. He actually told me how to do it ...but I think I will have him back

My vet always tries to suggest horse owners be pro active in horse care when able but I think this is beyond my interest for now and not as simple as giving a jab

I have a feeling this will be a HUGE chunk

Then step three (if all the rest goes well) is waiting to see how the new hoof (if any ) grows out back there

will keep you posted!

 

[jumpthemoon]

Are you referring to Manuka honey? I used it on a horse of mine who had got her leg caught in a 5 bar gate - it did help with the healing process. I didn't bandage it - I just applied the honey and left it to work. You want to get the stuff with a UMF of at least 10, pref 13 or more.

 

[Bounty]

Manuka honey!!!
We used it on my little mare's leg (after trying other unsuccessful ways of keeping the proud flesh at bay) and had wonderful results.
We used 'factor' 15 stuff, it's not actually called factors, but I'm sure you get what I mean!
Smothered it on a melolin type dressing, then bandaged with a crepe bandage to hold it in place, followed by a soffban and finally a vetwrap. We changed it every 4 or 5 days, and were amazed each time at the progress it was making.

I have a gory pic of her leg if you want to see what size/type/area of injury it was that we treated

 

[henryhorn]

Hi Jade we have indeed had amazing results with honey and cod liver oil dressings which are impregnated into tulle, but I am not sure if you could buy them where you are. mine are made by an English company and we have used them on everything from gory wounds to broken knees.
Whatever bugs are in the honey seem to eat up the debris and gunk and leave a clean healthy wound.
I would follow Bounty's suggestion of manuka honey, smear it on a piece of dressing, apply and bandage on with sticky bandage.
Leave at minimum of three days if possible for best results. I have found proud flesh doesn't develop using the dressings.
Hope this helps!

 

[Bounty]

I would have liked to have used the type of dressing you are talking about HH, but by the time I'd tracked them down and found that they are HIDEOUSLY expensive

, I decided to DIY it. Results still incredible, if a little more messy to apply!

 

[JadeWisc]

Thank you all of you! I am about to browse around online now to see if I can find "manuka honey" here


Also....(for fear of sounding like a fool) If I cannot find it will just plain old off the shelf at the store honey work?!

Another question (sorry again) Would I do this now as on Monday vet asked me to open wound up to dry out?


I am wondering if it will make any difference in just 3 days or would I need to keep at it for awhile longer?


Bounty: YES! Pleas post the pics! I am very interested to see!

 

[Bounty]

Normal honey won't have the same effect.. Manuka honey is 'live' and apparently is full of good bacteria. If you google it there are loads of articles on it's magical healing powers, it's being used alot on burns patients. Something about the make up of the honey makes it into a very mild Hydrogen Peroxide I think, which is partly how it stops the flesh growing proud, I might have made that up, but I'm sure I read it when I was researching using it in the first place!

Personally I'd just 'manuka' the wound straight away and not leave the wound to dry out, leaving it to dry will encourage the proud flesh (discouraged by moist environment and pressure).. so you'd be shooting yourself in the foot a bit

In three days it should make ALOT of difference. The first dressing I put on my girl I didn't do it quite tight enough, and had to redo it the next day, and there was already a huge difference in it.

Before being cut back for the second time

After being cut back, Honey treatment started 2 days after this. Intrasite gel makes it look gunkier than it was.

 

[Gingernags]

We just usd ordinary honey, and babies nappies as dressings (way cheaper than animalintex) but you have to keep them dry,

smother dressing in honey, bandage on, and leave at least 48 hours...

1st pic was where she'd pulled all the skin off (circle was flap of skin) - nothing to stitch - whole area was just raw and bleeding. We couldn't let it dry off as flies were getting in it. I'd heard studies were saying it can heal covered just as well if not better, but takes slightly longer.

She did develop proud flesh before we used the honey, the honey shrank it. Middle pic is after about 2 weeks, last one after about 6. No scarring now and it was nasty when she did it.

As I say I just bought pure honey in a sqeezy jar (less messy) and stuck a good load on a dressing, bandaged on and left for 2/3 days at a time before changing it.

 

[Enfys]

Hi Jade,

I have just read an article (Hobby Farm (US publication) July/August 2007. Helen Smith Thomas) about proud flesh, it isn't a remedy I had heard of before and thought it may interest you. Have you heard of this before?

" Sprinkle Alum powder on the healing wound every day. Alum is the inexpensive, white powder used to make pickles, you can buy it in the grocery store. It is an astringent that painlessly draws living tissue together. Alum doesn't irritate the surrounding tissue. You can start using Alum instead of wound ointment as soon as the gap is filled in; keep applying the alum once a day until the skin grows back over the wound from the surrounding edges"