Tiffany's chihuahuas

Yes, did go but sadly no pictures this year as I had that awful cold that's been going around and was feeling like I was dying all weekend!!! Not great results for us either!
 
Hello,

Firstly, it is very common for Chihuahua puppies to be sold unregistered if they are not show quality, even from the very best breeders. It safeguards the lines and avoids unsuitable puppies being put in the show ring. Its not something I've seen so commonly in other breeds, but an awful lot of the chi breeders do this so that wouldn't concern me too much.

I don't agree with selling two pups from the same litter - of any breed - to the same home. So that's disappointing to hear. And those puppies do look very young.

Shame I didn't see this thread sooner as I am always being told on FB about breeders unable to sell their pups, and for a L/C puppy to a pet home you can usually get them for under £500.

But, congrats on the new additions and I hope all is well with them :)


(Oh, and on the original topic - Tiffany Chihuahuas are a well known puppy farm within the Chihuahua breed and ask extortionate prices for pups of poorer quality that you would get as last pick in most reputable breeders litters!!! STAY CLEAR!!!)

Thank you for different view point. They are from different litters- not sisters.
 
Ok, well as its generally not the done thing to have multiple litters at the same time (most good breeders have a litter to keep a pup to show themselves), I shall reword it:

"I don't agree with selling two pups - of any breed - to the same home."

It can cause a LOT of problems to the puppies, and especially the new owners, as the puppies get older so is not at all advisable.
 
I know it's not the done thing and I freely admit that the youngsters were hard work, but I would always look to repeat the litter mates puppies having done it twice now. I can't understand people getting one of each sex, tho. I imagine I'd have a problem in future as I'd be looking only at assured KC breeders.
 
UnaB, could you elaborate on your reasoning for not registering eligible puppies, (any breed really)
The reason of preventing unsuitable puppies into the show ring seems a bit thin to me.
Surely if the dog is unsuitable it won't get past its first or second show.
Far more important, in my opinion, is the fact that if the pups are registered then the mother has not been churning out litter after litter as a money making machine.
Chihuahuas are a very popular breed at the moment, and there are literally hundreds of people breeding very poor quality puppies, sometimes even crossbreds and selling them to unsuspecting customers with a nonsense excuse for them not being registered.
If 'responsible' breeders are failing to register puppies to keep them out of the show ring then I despair.
If a puppy is really poor quality the breeder should be taking responsibility for their own and not selling that pup. If its simply not show quality but a healthy pet pup, then as I said, the show ring will soon sort that out. As for safeguarding blood lines, nothing stops the buyer breeding from it anyway, and selling pups, again unregistered. It just helps to safeguard the breeders reputation, !!!!!
If breeder really doesn't want their pet stock bred on, keep them until they can be neutered and then sell at pet only prices, or there is the option of registering with exclusions.
When I was looking, not one seller of non registered pups was prepared to show me parents reg papers, only pedigrees. So I didn't know if non reg of pups was due to over breeding or exclusions. Not that either is acceptable.
Until purchasers of pedigree pups refuse to buy anything unregistered, the problem will continue to grow. The fact that so called responsible breeders are doing it really angers me.
I spend half my life explaining to prospective purchasers why registration is vital, not just for the good of the individual puppy, but for the various breeds generally.
If you won't put your name to it, you shouldn't have bred it. Of course the unexpected lesser quality pup crops up, but its the breeders responsibility to stop it being bred on. That is not done by selling it unregistered.
 
A good point, Ribbons. I would never buy an unregistered pedigree pup and have also always appreciated being given he third degree by any breeders we contact.

OP - I wish you lots of fun with those two, so cute!
 
The puppies looks adorable ktj1891, and I hope your mother will be happy with them. :)


I know it's not the done thing and I freely admit that the youngsters were hard work, but I would always look to repeat the litter mates puppies having done it twice now. I can't understand people getting one of each sex, tho. I imagine I'd have a problem in future as I'd be looking only at assured KC breeders.

Even though it doesn't always goes wrong when someone buys two puppies/dogs at the same time, in general, I still do not think that it is a good idea for most dog owners. It works for some, but it isn't always easy to housebreak one puppy, and teaching it the everyday basic obedience most people wants their dogs to know (= walk nicely on a leash, come to recall, that only because furniture may have wooden details it does not make them gnaw toys etc). If you then buy two at the same time (from the same or different litters), there is even more things to think about.

E.g. I've known an experienced dog owner who thought that after many years of dog owning, she knew enough to buy two puppies at once, and everything went well, or so she thought for about 10 or 11 years. Then one of the bitches got ill and died, and only then did the owner realise how dependent on each other her two bitches had been, and how little importance she herself was to her bitches when they were two. The remaining bitch had to relearn almost everything, how to walk down stairs without her sister, going for walks alone with only the owner, seeing and meeting things/humans/other dogs etc without her sister, being alone in a back room at her owner's work (with only a closed gate between that room and the store), to respond to recall without her sister...

If I hypothetically had bought two puppies at the same time when I bought my first puppy 1990, I'm sure that I would have been overwhelmed by the situation, and I doubt that the end result would have been satisfying.
When I took a litter from Jonna 2008, I did not do as I had planned, without kept both the female puppies, and admittedly, I didn't feel that it was too difficult, but it is still not something that I plan to do again. Besides the usual "work" with housebreaking the puppies, teaching them to walk nicely on a leash etc, I made sure to some days take them out for separate walks, take them places on their own, train them on their own, and did what I could, to make sure that they listen to me and not just look at their sister/mother and do what they do.

I'm so glad that I made sure that they can do things on their own, because when she was 2 or 3 years old, Beata managed to eat something unsuitable out on a walk, had to have an operation and spent about 3 days with the veterinary. Judging by what the staff said, Beata behaved nicely and was okay with being away from her mother and sister, and the two at home seemed okay with her being away, at the most only a little puzzled by her absence. I dread to think about the possible extra difficulties which could have occurred, if they had been allowed to grow up being inseparable from each other and/or their mother.
 
I have recently had a litter and plan to keep more than one - it's the reason I had a litter.

Mine are gundogs and I am in the lucky position that I have time to train each of my dogs seperately every day if I wish - I already have five adults. As anything, with forward planning and common sense it can work.
 
We had sheepdog litter sisters once, couldn't decide between them. We sold one half broken and kept the better one.
They were both good dogs though and the one that was sold is a good worker now.

I think it depends on your set up and the dog. I wouldn't do it with pets.
 
Yes they make big claims about many things including who they sell to. Then advertise on preloved, or direct from their website. A very smart marketing machine behind a glorified BYB.

We had a similar nightmare experience when we visited Tiffany's Chihuahuas, they said they were the best in the UK. There were Chihuahuas EVERYWHERE! It was like a farm, they accused us of wasting their time when we said that we'd decided "to wait" (run away).

It felt like some sort of romanian/polish mafia, i'm not sure but they might actually be importing chihuahuas from abroad also.

Purely in it for the money, aggressive, pushy, abusive, they kept saying that if we went to any other breeder that they would be inferior and their puppies worthless, they seem to try and scare people into purchasing from them :'(

tl;dr BEWARE!!
Tiffany's Chihuahuas are absolutely despicable people

http://www.tiffany-chihuahuas.com/
 
Hello,

Firstly, it is very common for Chihuahua puppies to be sold unregistered if they are not show quality, even from the very best breeders. It safeguards the lines and avoids unsuitable puppies being put in the show ring. Its not something I've seen so commonly in other breeds, but an awful lot of the chi breeders do this so that wouldn't concern me too much.

I don't agree with selling two pups from the same litter - of any breed - to the same home. So that's disappointing to hear. And those puppies do look very young.

Shame I didn't see this thread sooner as I am always being told on FB about breeders unable to sell their pups, and for a L/C puppy to a pet home you can usually get them for under £500.

But, congrats on the new additions and I hope all is well with them :)


(Oh, and on the original topic - Tiffany Chihuahuas are a well known puppy farm within the Chihuahua breed and ask extortionate prices for pups of poorer quality that you would get as last pick in most reputable breeders litters!!! STAY CLEAR!!!)

could not agree more! We visited and they were so pushy, we felt as though we were threatened, literally they attempted to force us into buying from them and in the process slandered every other breeder in the entire country
 
Hey what are the beeston sales threads?
Our impression of the family was as a russian mafia, they were abusive, destructive, aggressive and pushy and had nothing but bad to say after we changed our mind and said that we were no longer interested.
 
That website has made me feel sick. They deliver puppies anywhere in the country and also courier them ABROAD. Breaks my heart the image of a tiny little puppy leaving it's littermates and being 'couriered' to another country.
 
I really wish I had seen this thread before I purchased a Pomeranian from Tiffany Chihuahua. I bought a four month old Snow White Pomeranian for £5000 on the 12th July 2017. The owner of the company Elena Katerova delivered the Pomeranian for another £450 a couple of days later! To cut a long story very short, the dog was eight months old and all the advertising material they used online was taken of the dog before it was imported to the UK from Russia. In reality the dog was cream in colour, had heavily stained eyes and this stain had transferred to the dogs paws. It also had two very large matts behind its ears, they were larger than fifty pence pieces! All superficial I thought and something I can deal with over time. I then noticed its right leg had been shaved and its other legs were made to look similar. I contacted the seller to ask why this was and she told me the leg had been shaved as it needed an x-ray as it had sprained its leg socialising with other dogs. I found out from her vet that this was far from the truth, it had badly broken its leg on the 31st May and had an operation on the 1st June at Liverpool University to have an implant fitted. It was on cage rest for six weeks and no sooner was this rest period up they sold the dog to me. They did not even take the dog back for a follow up x-ray to see if the implant was okay, which troubled the surgeon who noted exercise should be follow by his plan as if the implant moved the consequences would mean further surgery or amputation.

I paid via PayPal as all their dogs payment is requested this way. As the seller refused to help or significantly reduce the price due to my ongoing vet costs that are not covered on insurance. Ms Katerova told me that was the price and in her experience the dog would have no further trouble as she had it walking around two weeks after surgery and it was not even limping!! I called PayPal to get the payment reversed, surely they could do this as the dog is significantly NOT as described. PayPal closed my case in the buyers favour as they do not cover livestock. Luckily most of my payment hit my current account as a Direct Debit and the bank reversed the payment and refunded me.

So now I have a Pomeranian the I have not paid for. The seller refuses to reduce the price and legally I have to return the dog. The courier is coming Monday/tomorrow to collect my ten year old daughters much loved pet, it was a gift to her for her hard work studying for her 11+. This dear Pomeranian has now been with us eight weeks. We would love to keep her but our solicitor says we do not own her and as we cannot agree a reduced price with Tiffany Chihuahua we have to return her.

Since our terrible experience I have heard nothing but bad things about this seller, from fellow breeders, other professionals and buyers. I would highly recommend anyone thinking of purchasing an imported over priced dog from them to think twice and do your research. This company has trouble selling their dogs due to the extortionate prices charged and their reputation. They also advertise on Pets4homes and Preloved pets where they do not sell! This has been a terrible heart breaking experience for us. I hope sharing this will help others.
 
I really wish I had seen this thread before I purchased a Pomeranian from Tiffany Chihuahua. I bought a four month old Snow White Pomeranian for £5000 on the 12th July 2017. The owner of the company Elena Katerova delivered the Pomeranian for another £450! To cut a long story very short, the dog was eight months old and all the advertising material they used online was taken of the dog before it was imported to the UK from Russia. In reality the dog was cream in colour, had heavily stained eyes and this stain had transferred to the dogs paws. All superficial I thought and something I can deal with over time. I then noticed its right leg had been shaved and its other legs were made to look similar. I contacted the seller to ask why this was and she told me it had been shaved as it needed an x-ray as it had sprained its leg socialising with other dogs. I found out from her vet that this was far from the truth, it had badly broken its leg on the 31st May and had an operation on the 1st June at Liverpool University to have an implant fitted. It was on cage rest for six weeks and no sooner this rest was up they sold the dog to me. They did not even take it back for a follow up x-ray to see if the implant was okay.

I paid via PayPal as all their dogs payment is requested this was. As the seller refused to help or significantly reduce the price due to my ongoing vet costs that are not covered on insurance. Ms Katerova told me that was the price and in her experience the dog would have no further trouble as she had it walking around two weeks after surgery and it was not even limping!! I called PayPal to get the payment reversed, surely they could do this as the dog is significantly NOT as described. PayPal closed the case in the buyers favour as they do not cover livestock. Luckily most of my payment hit my current account as a Direct Debit and the bank reversed the payment and refunded me.

So now I have a Pomeranian the I have not paid for. The seller refuses to reduce the price and legally I have to return the dog. The courier is coming Monday/tomorrow to collect my ten year old daughter much loved pet. She has now been with us eight weeks. We would love to keep her but our solicitor says we do not own her and as we cannot agree a reduced price with Tiffany Chihuahua we have to return it.

Since our terrible experience I have heard nothing but bad things about this seller, from fellow breeders, other professionals and buyers. I would highly recommend anyone thinking of purchasing an imported over priced dog from them to think twice. They also sell on Pets4homes and Preloved as they have trouble selling the dogs at these inflated prices. This has been a terrible heart breaking experience for us.
 
JaneMar - I am so soprry about your experience and the poor dog, and poor daughter, but really buying the way you did entirely supports the puppy farm trade. Please do some research.
 
JaneMar - I am so soprry about your experience and the poor dog, and poor daughter, but really buying the way you did entirely supports the puppy farm trade. Please do some research.

I did do research and my searches did not turn anything up at the time. Lets just say I am older and wiser! I just wish to warn others. Warning others is more important to me that receiving negative comments for a mistake I made.
 
I am putting as much information as I can online about this. Tiffany Chihauhau pay for hundreds of great reviews on https://kudobuzz.com/ which I read before buying and I spoke to a previous purchaser. I left a negative review on Kudobuzz about my experience and it was removed. How are people to warn others if they control reviews this way. It makes me sick. I found this thread on a search engine and wanted to add my experience. No one buys from a puppy farmer knowingly and this company are very savvy with regards to marketing. If people like me do not stand up and leave reviews they will never be stopped. I can take the negative comments on my mistake what I cannot take is what this company are doing and continue to do.
 
Another huge red flag would be the asking price. No one should ever think it is normal to pay £5k for a pet dog.

Yes and no. To purchase a pedigree white Pomeranian that is true to breed you are looking upwards of £2500/3000. These dogs are not cheap and dogs of show quality can be much more. I agree with your red flag comment but to others the price would make a buyer think they were purchasing a dog of excellent quality. This company or puppy farm should I say even have a Pomeranian for sale at the moment for £8500! Utterly ridiculous...
 
Wow. I can't actually believe people would pay that. I am involved in showing and sports/performance dogs (different breed) competing internationally and no way would they cost even half of that as pups even from generations of fully health tested/qualified parents.

ETA What is it that the purchaser is actually paying 'for'? Health tests on a parent would cost a couple of hundred quid max. This isn't a working breed so no outlay on travel, training, titling there. Not a large breed so not eating the breeder out of house and home. It just smacks of profiteering. I don't care how cute or rare a dog is, I'm not going to pay for someone else's new conservatory or to sit on their bum all day making money off dogs.
 
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Wow. I can't actually believe people would pay that. I am involved in showing and sports/performance dogs (different breed) competing internationally and no way would they cost even half of that as pups even from generations of fully health tested/qualified parents.

ETA What is it that the purchaser is actually paying 'for'? Health tests on a parent would cost a couple of hundred quid max. This isn't a working breed so no outlay on travel, training, titling there. Not a large breed so not eating the breeder out of house and home. It just smacks of profiteering. I don't care how cute or rare a dog is, I'm not going to pay for someone else's new conservatory or to sit on their bum all day making money off dogs.

100% agree with you.
 
Im really sorry to read this, poor dog , they will now probably sell it on to some unsuspecting person, cant believe how they are getting away with charging these ridiculous prices

The only suggestion for you is and I hope someone can find the link but someone in the media was advertising for peoples stories in buying from puppy farm, your story sounds ideal. I will have a look for you but if anyone else in the meantime can find it and share on here that would be great.
 
I'm really sorry you (and especially this poor puppy) have gone through this nightmare.

While there are some comments here that have sounded rather negative toward you, I think it's just frustration that you have found out the hard way what others have known, or common sense tells us.

I have poodles, which I show. I cringe when I see people who pay well over the odds for something like a "rare blue merle poodle of show quality!" because as a poodle enthusiast, I know this to be a completely false statement.

Could you love a dog that is to breed type of ordinary color? Of course you can.

I think you are very brave to have posted this - and if you don't mind can I please share it? I think there are many others that can learn from this.
 
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We have been asked to post this message on our page. We know many of you have been ripped off by on line puppy sellers so here is your chance to bite back :)
"My name is Rebecca Collins and I'm a researcher on the BBC consumer advice programme, Rip off Britain.
We are currently producing a story about the regulation of selling pets online, and how misleading adverts by breeders are leading pet owners to end up with unhealthy, or much older/younger dogs than advertised. Needless to say, the consequences of this behaviour are awful for both the owner and dog.
I am hoping to speak to dog owners who have been affected by this to help with my research, with the aim of raising awareness to this malpractice, and offer advice to our viewers if they're looking to buy a puppy. Could anybody here help with my research at all? Do get in touch! My work number is 01613 358 415.
Many thanks,



Op its worth giving this lady a ring, you have nothing to lose and if they can highlight this then the word will get out there about these people and hopefully stopping other people from making the same mistakes.
 
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