To Patey or not to Patey

[C&C]

That is the question?

Was thinking of buying one for hunting (yes i know the price) - someone told me i was mad! Said i should wear a harnessed hat.

What do you wear?

 

[Rowreach]

I value my head too much.

 

[arizonahoney]

On your own head be it

 

[Baggybreeches]

Pateys look lovely for standing still on your own two feet, but I honestly can't understand why anyone would be so vain to buy one for hunting in?
Get one if you desperately want one, but please keep it for unmounted prize givings only

 

[mastermax]

Sorry, but totally agree with the above. Seen a lovely sequence of photos of a gentleman who fell at a hedge and the Patey did a "Barnes Wallace" long before he hit the ground!!. Yes, they look stylish and great but we only have one head, abuse it and lose it.

 

[Drakerath]

They are for old-fashioned, thick people.

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

They are for old-fashioned, thick people.

I take exception to that comment!





I am old fashioned & maybe thick (specially around the middle ) but my Patey was long consigned to the 'hall of memories' after being used as an in-hand only hat for a number of years. Stopped hunting in one back in the 80's.

 

[C&C]

I will get a harnessed one

 

[Ditchjumper2]

....sorry I wear one....creeps off and hides.......

 

[cptrayes]

They look great on stupid people. No-one who isn't stupid wears one. Why risk your brains in the name of fashion. It's rubbish that they don't come off if they fit right. Our huntsman's came off over a fence when he stayed in the saddle. Only worn by people with more concern for how other people view them than their own safety. You may as well wear nothing.

Did I say I hunt in a full skull cap ?

 

[Dunlin]

For an extra £20 you can get the Patey with a flesh coloured harness.

 

[cptrayes]

For an extra £20 you can get the Patey with a flesh coloured harness.

For £100 less you can get a velvet hat with a flesh coloured harness to the same safety spec

 

[spacefaer]

You're always going to get jumped on here for suggesting wearing anything other than full body armour (not so bad in Hunting, awful in NL where people advocate hacking in their air jackets)

I hunt in my Patey, hack in my crash hat. I've had way worse falls eventing, hacking and schooling than I ever have hunting.

It's my choice, I will get abuse for choosing it.

And the more I am lectured by strangers about it, the more stubborn I get

 

[meandmyself]

I think it's very selfish not to wear a proper helmet. If you come off, land on your head and end up in a coma, what happens to your family/friends/horse/job/whatever?

Get a smart velvet helmet instead.

 

[cptrayes]

You're always going to get jumped on here for suggesting wearing anything other than full body armour (not so bad in Hunting, awful in NL where people advocate hacking in their air jackets)

I hunt in my Patey, hack in my crash hat. I've had way worse falls eventing, hacking and schooling than I ever have hunting.

It's my choice, I will get abuse for choosing it.

And the more I am lectured by strangers about it, the more stubborn I get

You didn't ask though, Spacefaer, so I won't pass any judgement on your adult choice to do as you wish. No problem.

But the OP asked !!

 

[spacefaer]

Fair point cptrayes - just thought I'd give the opposing viewpoint

(Need to ask you about calmag sometime too)

 

[Hunters]

I wear my Patey - have had any number of falls & it has never come off.

I have however seen riders get their hats with harnesses get caught in low branches.

It's all about personal choice. Horses for courses etc.

 

[jrp204]

Or put it another way, 'brain injury or not brain injury', guess that gives my opinion.

 

[JenHunt]

Proper hat all the time. As others have said, a patey is fine of you're on your feet, but not mounted.

And if your hat harness is lose enough to get caught on branches it needs refitting!

 

[FairyLights]

Go for a jockey skull instead. Much safer IMO

 

[Drakerath]

You're always going to get jumped on here for suggesting wearing anything other than full body armour (not so bad in Hunting, awful in NL where people advocate hacking in their air jackets)

I hunt in my Patey, hack in my crash hat. I've had way worse falls eventing, hacking and schooling than I ever have hunting.

It's my choice, I will get abuse for choosing it.

And the more I am lectured by strangers about it, the more stubborn I get

As I said before, hunting (which typically involves jumping large fences in unpredictable conditions where falls are commonplace) and electing to wear little more than a velvet covered eggshell is for old-fashioned, thick people.

Engage the brain and look at the situation with common sense. Risk of falling is high. Risk of injury is high. Why would you not want to protect your head with the safest hat known to man? Seriously! Is it you just want to look the part? Are you so insecure that you think other hunting folk won't take you seriously enough unless you look the part.
Pateys for hunting are on their way out. Mark my words. In a generation they will be all but gone.

 

[cptrayes]

It's my choice, I will get abuse for choosing it. And the more I am lectured by strangers about it, the more stubborn I get

Spacefaer 1 Drakerath 0

 

[Goldenstar]

I love mine now and again I get down the hat box take it out stroke it sigh then put it back away then go and ride in a modern safety standard Charles owen ( fionas hat type)..
It's not the same but it's safer.

 

[Drakerath]

Except you can't lecture stupid.

Pateys will be gone within a number of years. It's literally those whose parents fell victim to too much cross breeding and/or born with insufficient brain cells that continue to choose aesthetics over brain protection.
Plus those who are genuinely insecure and fear non acceptance by the hunting set.

(However, the sort of person who chooses a Patey probably doesn't have much brain to protect in the first place so they are no better or worse off.)

I make choices for myself and I don't care what other people choose to wear. I'm certainly not interested in converting randoms on a forum into changing their headwear so don't think of me as lecturing 'other people'. I'm stating my views and what I think of other people when they make different choices.

But do I even them to change? Not a bit of it!Who are we going laugh at if not the in-bred numptees lauding about in silly party hats. Every hunt needs some old fashioned, thick buffoons to poke fun at! They are 'characters'. Long may they reign

 

[Drakerath]

I love mine now and again I get down the hat box take it out stroke it sigh then put it back away then go and ride in a modern safety standard Charles owen ( fionas hat type)..
It's not the same but it's safer.

I have one too that I just use when I go eventing (dressage bit obvs). They look infinitely smarter than anything safe.

 

[sbloom]

Biting tongue....

 

[VOM]

After not posting for ages this thread has prompted me to reply. I find it quite offensive for one to call another stupid for choosing to wear a Patey. I know plenty who do and plenty who don't, personally I now wear a skull cap for Hunting and will continue to do so. However I feel very strongly that it's a personall choice and no one should be pressured either way.

 

[monkeybum13]

After not posting for ages this thread has prompted me to reply. I find it quite offensive for one to call another stupid for choosing to wear a Patey. I know plenty who do and plenty who don't, personally I now wear a skull cap for Hunting and will continue to do so. However I feel very strongly that it's a personall choice and no one should be pressured either way.

I agree with this. I wear a velvet hat with leather strap because I choose to. People wear pateys because that is what they choose to do. No need for the name calling...

 

[Drakerath]

It's all relative though. Some people get upset over name calling. Other people have seen the fatal consequences of not wearing proper hats and finds such sentimentality more offensive than saying it like it is.

What reason is there for choosing to wear a Patey hat when proper hunting in this day and age?
Can anyone name a reason that does not look stupid when compared to the efficacy of a skull cap (or equivalent).
You can't hide from the truth. The weak will put their head in the sand like an ostrich I suppose .

 

[VOM]

In that case should we all be wearing body protectors?