Tokyo Eventing Cross Country

TPO said:
Just rewatching on bbc

Enjoying Ian and Nick's commentary much more then D+. I think Rishi has been brilliant and great match with Alex's "layperson" questions; both great presenters. Can still hear those blinking cicadas!!!! ???
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Bit kate to the party but much preferring the BBC commentary and sound quality to D+ decided to switch over as the background noise was drowning out our commentary and then everything would go quiet. I do enjoy the post run interviews and a bit of grumpy Starky too.

I too cried at the 100m and the BMX.
 
splashgirl45 said:
thanks teapot, you seem to be able to find everything...:)

so when is the first SJ, and when will the individual SJ be. thankyou in advance..
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Years of academic research finally paying off! :D

Trot up is 01.30am Monday morning our time
Team sj starts 9am Monday morning our time
Individual/top 25 12.45pm Monday our time (tbc) - I'd imagine times may change a little subject to trot up etc
 
teapot said:
and galloping over 1m20 fixed fences on 700kg of living breathing animal isn't? :D

It's the fact they land on concrete with zero padding that gets me :oops:
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At least horse riders attempt to stay on over the fence, I have no idea how they get back on the bike after they've got off and spun it round while hurtling through the air ?
 
milliepops said:
At least horse riders attempt to stay on over the fence, I have no idea how they get back on the bike after they've got off and spun it round while hurtling through the air ?
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Yes, the nearest horse equivalent is the Mounted Police displays, where they take off their saddles while jumping over something on fire
 
One of the FJ in Tokyo said they put the red pins in fence 14c prior to the competition whilst riders were course walking as the yellow pins can give by a person leaning on the fence. They swapped them to yellow for the competition and there was a mix of front bar, back bar and both bars falling out of those that broke the pins.

Felt a bit punch drunk this morning and managed to fall flat on my face coming out of the hay barn after doing travel nets. Thought show jumping was maybe a stupid idea. Luckily my horse was in point and shoot mode and only had one fence down where I messed up the canter (yes I fiddled!).

Just rewatched some xc on iPlayer and great to listen to the interviews - sad they didn't speak to Tom. So sorry to read the Jet Set was put down but apparently was irreparable ligament damage. So sad for connections.

I love OT - always have and always will. Elisa Wallace anybody? Far far worse.
 
Nicnac said:
One of the FJ in Tokyo said they put the red pins in fence 14c prior to the competition whilst riders were course walking as the yellow pins can give by a person leaning on the fence. They swapped them to yellow for the competition and there was a mix of front bar, back bar and both bars falling out of those that broke the pins.

Felt a bit punch drunk this morning and managed to fall flat on my face coming out of the hay barn after doing travel nets. Thought show jumping was maybe a stupid idea. Luckily my horse was in point and shoot mode and only had one fence down where I messed up the canter (yes I fiddled!).

Just rewatched some xc on iPlayer and great to listen to the interviews - sad they didn't speak to Tom. So sorry to read the Jet Set was put down but apparently was irreparable ligament damage. So sad for connections.

I love OT - always have and always will. Elisa Wallace anybody? Far far worse.
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Whooopps, hope you're not too sore!

Official statement re Jet Set is here: https://olympics.com/tokyo-2020/oly...U_C67_EQU-------------------------------8.pdf
 
Was she the rider at badminton who’s horse was absolutely knackered and she just got off at the end and left him cause she was in a strop. Think officials had to go and initially sort him out
 
Lexi_ said:
Oof Nicnac, hope it wasn’t a heavy fall!

I’d forgotten about that Elisa Wallace incident.
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Hope you're ok Nicnac

What happened with Elisa Wallace? A quick google is full of good reports, results and articles only

ETA I added badminton to my search query and it all became apparent. I'd forgotten about that.

IMO the reason why OTs "misdemeanors" have hung around is that he has a higher profile. He was "sold" to the public as "one of us" who made it without a silver spoon, while brushing over his parents involvement, and I think that might have lead to people who invested in him feeling let down almost? IMO at the heart of it people wanted to see him do well and "be better" if that makes any sense.

You could ask people who've worked with me and some would say I was a nightmare and others would say I was a dream. There would be at least two sides to the stories behind it. In thses circumstances, like WFP thing, we are only hearing one side.

I dont think that any action has to be "worse than" or "not as bad as" for it to be bad on its own merit.

Remember OT I'd also approaching 40 and hes grown up in this sport. We've all behaved badly or poorly at various points in our lives. I guess the value is in not repeating the same mistakes?
 
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TPO said:
Hope you're ok Nicnac

What happened with Elisa Wallace? A quick google is full of good reports, results and articles only
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If you Google Elisa Wallace yellow card Badminton then it’ll come up although it’s not pleasant viewing. The horse was running on empty for the last part of the course, she kept pushing and they had a nasty fall at the last. Entirely her fault: she should have pulled up.
 
TPO said:
Hope you're ok Nicnac

What happened with Elisa Wallace? A quick google is full of good reports, results and articles only

ETA I added badminton to my search query and it all became apparent. I'd forgotten about that.

IMO the reason why OTs "misdemeanors" have hung around is that he has a higher profile. He was "sold" to the public as "one of us" who made it without a silver spoon, while brushing over his parents involvement, and I think that might have lead to people who invested in him feeling let down almost? IMO at the heart of it people wanted to see him do well and "be better" if that makes any sense.

You could ask people who've worked with me and some would say I was a nightmare and others would say I was a dream. There would be at least two sides to the stories behind it. In thses circumstances, like WFP thing, we are only hearing one side.

I dont think that any action has to be "worse than" or "not as bad as" for it to be bad on its own merit.

Remember OT I'd also approaching 40 and hes grown up in this sport. We've all behaved badly or poorly at various points in our lives. I guess the value is in not repeating the same mistakes?
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His parents were basically living on a tenanted hill farm, shared with other family members who did the farming. They certainly didn't have pots of money when OT was growing up. There seem to be a lot of misconceptions about him.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
His parents were basically living on a tenanted hill farm, shared with other family members who did the farming. They certainly didn't have pots of money when OT was growing up. There seem to be a lot of misconceptions about him.
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I don't know if you're agreeing with me or if I dodnt write what I meant clearly because I think I agree with you.

His parents were both horsey and competed. I'm sure his father also dealt in horses so OT had a lot of horses through the yard. All of that is invaluable experience and connections that is often overlooked. So while he didnt have a silver spoon he did have a leg up in other areas. That in no way is to take away from his talent and huge success.

The story spun us often about this young Yorkshire lad that came from nothing with no one and he made it. That's not entirely true because of his parents and their business. But I agree he wasnt bought made horses or opportunities.

However hes probably closer to "us" than other eventers that have had stacks of money behind him them and that's possibly why (some) people felt so let down/angry at OT because they rooted for him as "the peoples champion"?

Regardless I hope how hes conducted himself since that badminton and his spectacular performances at Tokyo so far are enough to finally leave all that in the past

I think we mean the same thing about his background
 
TPO said:
Hope you're ok Nicnac

What happened with Elisa Wallace? A quick google is full of good reports, results and articles only

ETA I added badminton to my search query and it all became apparent. I'd forgotten about that.

IMO the reason why OTs "misdemeanors" have hung around is that he has a higher profile. He was "sold" to the public as "one of us" who made it without a silver spoon, while brushing over his parents involvement, and I think that might have lead to people who invested in him feeling let down almost? IMO at the heart of it people wanted to see him do well and "be better" if that makes any sense.

You could ask people who've worked with me and some would say I was a nightmare and others would say I was a dream. There would be at least two sides to the stories behind it. In thses circumstances, like WFP thing, we are only hearing one side.

I dont think that any action has to be "worse than" or "not as bad as" for it to be bad on its own merit.

Remember OT I'd also approaching 40 and hes grown up in this sport. We've all behaved badly or poorly at various points in our lives. I guess the value is in not repeating the same mistakes?
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Try being old, I still shudder over some of the things I've said and done in my life. Oh how I wish I'd been wiser in my youth, less mouth and more kindness would not have gone amiss.
 
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