Tokyo Showjumping thread

[Kadastorm]

Oh what a great round from Cian and Kilkenny but I wonder what is going to happen as these commentators don’t know!

 

[Peregrine Falcon]

That would be a shame.

 

[Rowreach]

Will a nose bleed cause elimination under the blood rule? Seems harsh if it does but I thought it was pretty absolute.

Both nostrils I’d hope it would (even though ??)

 

[Lexi_]

Will a nose bleed cause elimination under the blood rule? Seems harsh if it does but I thought it was pretty absolute.

I think I remember someone on the dressage thread saying there was an elimination because the horse bit his lip/tongue. Was absolutely fine, but it’s an instant elimination. I’d assume it’s the same in SJ?

 

[HashRouge]

I know it's probably tricky to do mid-round but should they not have stopped Cian? I assume there is an elimination bell or something? Looks horrendous for him to keep jumping when the horse is streaming blood, even if it's just a nosebleed.

 

[Kat]

Anyone using the D+ app on a phone or tablet worked out how to alter the screen ratio?

When I go full screen I lose the clock/score box, but small screen is too small.

 

[Peregrine Falcon]

Oh what a great round from Cian and Kilkenny but I wonder what is going to happen as these commentators don’t know!

They don't appear to know a lot either. Not that I am listening to them!

 

[Lexi_]

Also would that mean they’re out for the team competition as well, or could they sub in the reserve? It’s not my preferred discipline so I haven’t been keeping up with the rules!

 

[DabDab]

So I now have the slightly odd phenomenon of having SJ on the main TV on mute and climbing on my phone with sound up. Committed to just watching the SJ but that awful man had me reaching back for the comfort of the nice climbing peeps.

 

[only_me]

Have to say Cian O’Conners horse is my take home from today already - what scope and a “let me at it” attitude!
absolutely in love with him!

this commentator is an absolute joke though - he even said wonder how he prepared such a young horse, seemed to imply rushing it/being harsh. And doesn’t know the rules - absolutely infur

 

[Kat]

I think I remember someone on the dressage thread saying there was an elimination because the horse bit his lip/tongue. Was absolutely fine, but it’s an instant elimination. I’d assume it’s the same in SJ?

I know in dressage it is an instant elimination for blood from the mouth or on the sides whether there is any abuse or not but I'm not sure a nosebleed would count the same. It is obviously a veterinary issue and may mean that the horse can't jump again if there is a jump off but should it mean elimination?

Sounds as though he hasn't been eliminated.

 

[Willowbankstables]

So I now have the slightly odd phenomenon of having SJ on the main TV on mute and climbing on my phone with sound up. Committed to just watching the SJ but that awful man had me reaching back for the comfort of the nice climbing peeps.

Same! Showjumping on mute on the laptop and athletics on the TV with the sound! Enjoying it much more without sound haha

 

[Kat]

Also would that mean they’re out for the team competition as well, or could they sub in the reserve? It’s not my preferred discipline so I haven’t been keeping up with the rules!

I think that as the team competition hasn't started they can definitely sub in a reserve, and probably without penalty too. They can't sub in for today though as it is the individual today.

 

[milliepops]

FEi SJ rules state for eliminations

3.30. blood on the Horse’s flank(s);
3.31. Horses bleeding in the mouth (in minor cases of blood in the mouth, such as where a Horse appears to have bitten its tongue or lip, Officials may authorize the rinsing or wiping of the mouth and allow the Athlete to continue; any further evidence of blood in the mouth will result in Elimination);

so nosebleeds seem to not fall under that

 

[Peregrine Falcon]

I'm going to try French

Appears no commentary. Back to ambient

 

[Kadastorm]

So Dante is a mare! We were laughing at Lucinda yesterday for calling her a mare ?

 

[criso]

So maybe not a technical elimination but you would want a vet to check and say whether it's fit to continue.

 

[Kat]

FEi SJ rules state for eliminations

so nosebleeds seem to not fall under that

Brilliant thanks, that makes sense. Seems fair too, as a nosebleed can happen to anyone for no obvious reason and without warning.

 

[Kat]

So maybe not a technical elimination but you would want a vet to check and say whether it's fit to continue.

He has a time fault so probably unlikely to be going again today, but yes may need to be subbed for the team competition.

 

[only_me]

It’s not really “abuse” of the horse I suppose if it’s a clear nosebleed, would be different if they couldn’t isolate the source.

There is nothing I would imagine a rider can do about a nose bleed, probably just prone to them

 

[Kat]

The female commentator of D+ is actually good, and she is speaking much more than during the eventing. It isn't too bad today, but annoying that they don't let us have Lucinda and John Kyle.

 

[Peregrine Falcon]

They're not finding the time easy at the moment

 

[conniegirl]

I think fei rules state that the fei vet will need to examine horse and certify fit ti continue for the rest of the competition

 

[Kat]

One of the barefooters on now

 

[HashRouge]

So I now have the slightly odd phenomenon of having SJ on the main TV on mute and climbing on my phone with sound up. Committed to just watching the SJ but that awful man had me reaching back for the comfort of the nice climbing peeps.

The climbing is brilliant! I got home late yesterday and put it on catch-up, expecting just to watch a tiny bit. Well, I was still watching at midnight about 3 hours later! So entertaining! I'm excited for both then finals and might join you on having the women's heats on at the same time as the SJ!

 

[Kat]

Wow King Edward is fab isn't he, the lack of shoes clearly not slowing him down!!!!

 

[HashRouge]

Wow King Edward is fab isn't he, the lack of shoes clearly not slowing him down!!!!

Beautifully ridden too

 

[Peregrine Falcon]

Nice clear?

 

[humblepie]

Female commentator has done a lot of show jumping and as you say makes the commentary bearable (just!)

 

[Annagain]

The female commentator of D+ is actually good, and she is speaking much more than during the eventing. It isn't too bad today, but annoying that they don't let us have Lucinda and John Kyle.

I hate the way she's calling all the horses "it". It sounds so disrespectful. Even if she wasn't sure of the gender of some of them, the last one was called "King Edward". It was obvious he was a he!

 

[Peregrine Falcon]

Nope, she can't take away the pain of him for me. I tried the other languages but my german was limited at GCSE and certainly is now too!?