Too much to expect?

[Simbapony]

Hi All

Looking at buying myself a new horse, very experienced rider but out of the game for about 5 years. Looking for a Welsh D to do dressage and been to see one which I liked. Its 4, backed and turned away 6 months ago (by dealer who its still with) supposedly through a lack of time. Dealer has a good reputation but I have asked just to see it bought in , tacked up and sat on (was previously hacking out apparently) but dealer won't do so, citing a lack of time. Offered to do me a video the day before collecting but I have said I want to be there. She did tell me he had been wary when sitting up but doesn't shoot off. Am I expecting too much? I don't mind putting work in, and with something like this I fully expect too, but also want to make sure I am OK to at least get on without saying too much of a prayer!!

 

[AmyMay]

Walk away.

 

[ester]

If you can't see what you want to see keep looking.
A dealer turning a horse away for the 6 months of spring/summer seems questionable if only 'time' less time if you have sold it.

 

[ycbm]

I would walk away. It should be possible for a dealer to show someone sat on a horse that was backed six months ago and turned away.

If you are keen, you could ask her for a written warrantee that you will be able to get it ridden away and vetted within 30 days or she gives you a100% refund. When she refuses that, then walk away.
.

 

[bonny]

I think you know the answer to your own question !

 

[cauda equina]

I wonder why the dealer didn't sell it 6 months ago if it was properly backed, instead of turning it away and effectively wasting 6 months' keep on it

 

[Simbapony]

She did say with lockdown she closed the yard

 

[cauda equina]

OK fair enough

 

[shortstuff99]

No way, definitely walk away. This screams a backing problem to me, they can't show you even the horse being brought in and tacked up? Lungeing even if not ridden? A professional dealer surely has time to show a horse to a client?

 

[be positive]

She did say with lockdown she closed the yard

Most dealers seem to have been really busy, sale prices high and horses selling very easily, to turn away and not bring it back in for a week seems very fishy I would not even consider it without seeing it sat on.

 

[buddylove]

It's a no from me.......

 

[ForeverBroke_]

Big alarm bells for me. As another poster has mentioned, horse sales have soared during lockdown. They would've been mad to not keep it in work and sell while the market was so good. To then be backwards in coming forwards it would be a no from me also.

 

[Wheels]

Definitely walk away!

 

[Mrs. Jingle]

Run - as fast and far as you can!

 

[Flowerofthefen]

What area are you? A friend has a young D for sale

 

[Simbapony]

What area are you? A friend has a young D for sale

Midlands but happy to travel for the right one

 

[Flowerofthefen]

I will try and find out a bit more for you tomorrow x

 

[Henry02]

I would not buy any horse if the owner refuses to tack it up and sit on it. Even if sold from the field, I’d still expect it to be tacked up and sat on. Literally just sat on. Not expecting it to be ridden, but at least giving purchasers a chance to see that it might be ridable. Don’t even had to have a perfectly fitting saddle just to sit there.

I avoid horses where the owner says “I haven’t got a saddle”, just screams it’s a lunatic with veterinary issues

 

[lottiepony]

That would be a nope from me too....

Surely if your business is selling horses you would do anything requested (within reason lol) to secure a sale...?

 

[Simbapony]

Thank you everyone for your input. I am disappointed (especially as put a deposit down which I now won't get back) but gog to think long term

 

[AmyMay]

Thank you everyone for your input. I am disappointed (especially as put a deposit down which I now won't get back) but gog to think long term

If you’ve already put a deposit down, and presumably it’s near enough to you, go and see it. How much is the pony?

 

[Simbapony]

I had put a deposit down as had seen it but then asked to go back to see it sat on (my own fault i know). I'd rather lose the deposit though than break my neck

 

[FestiveFuzz]

Absolutely walk away. Surely it'd take more time to make and send a video than it would do to have you there watching in the flesh?

 

[SusieT]

I dont quite understand why you didnt ask the question when you looked, so to be fair can see why you wouldn't get your deposit back

 

[Simbapony]

Because I didn't give it a thought at the time too much, as I said, my bad.

 

[Simbapony]

But would still not think ots too much to just put some tack on and mount him whilst there , that's my issue, they are not wanting me to be there , but yo have a video.

 

[chaps89]

Smart dealer - if they video they can spend a day or two getting the horse happy being tacked up and sat on them video a good take.
Then when you go back to them as you can't do the same, they'll say they have video evidence of the horse being fine with it so must be you.
Or so says the cynical side of me!
Think

 

[Jellymoon]

I think it sounds very dodgy, and if a dealer actually admits that a horse is ‘wary’ when the rider sits up on it, and is now refusing to let you see it ridden, you can bet it’s not safe to sit on at the moment.
Shame to let her just walk away with your deposit though. That would annoy me very much!
I would insist they bring it in and show you want you want to see, or they refund you your deposit.
Or you could take a punt and get him/her home and reback slowly and carefully yourself, bearing in mind it’s a big risk.
Were you having a vetting?

 

[splashgirl45]

i would do as jellymoon says, insist that it is shown being sat on while you are there and if not ask for your deposit back...sounds a bit dodgy to me as well

 

[Simbapony]

I think it sounds very dodgy, and if a dealer actually admits that a horse is ‘wary’ when the rider sits up on it, and is now refusing to let you see it ridden, you can bet it’s not safe to sit on at the moment.
Shame to let her just walk away with your deposit though. That would annoy me very much!
I would insist they bring it in and show you want you want to see, or they refund you your deposit.
Or you could take a punt and get him/her home and reback slowly and carefully yourself, bearing in mind it’s a big risk.
Were you having a vetting?

I wasn't planning on to be honest. The whole thing has left me with massive anxiety. I appreciate i shouldn't have given her any money but I was really excited by him

The thing is these days as a single mum with a full time job, I don't want to be killing myself on something I know has an issue? Id fully have accepted her spinning him on the lunge for a few mins before but I dont think I'm asking too much to be there in person