Lipglosspukka
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You're missing the point. They have asked for recommendations on this post. We aren't to know if she is aware of the other posts, or if she's going to put his name in a search bar to find them.
Tricky Breaker - Recommendations For Help Needed
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You're missing the point. They have asked for recommendations on this post. We aren't to know if she is aware of the other posts, or if she's going to put his name in a search bar to find them.
supernova21
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oct 2022 it is then ???
supernova21
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I’m well aware of him, thank you though
daydreamer
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Jason Webb may be booked up but the guy that trained and worked with him for years may have space. Can’t remember the surname but his first name is hamish. He works out of the same yard as Jason.
exracehorse
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east anglia. She was backed. And was hacking her out as soon as possible. She was very naughty first few weeks. I knew she would be. But she’s been home two weeks. Has been doing lots of hacking out. Short distance. And riding with nanny horse. As we did today.
scats
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Sophie Seymour seems to do well with these types.
Durhamchance
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I'm going to give a positive review for Will Hunt. My loan pony went to him a few months before I started riding him. His owner was running out of people willing to exercise him, he was spooky, grumpy and would blow his mind at the smallest thing. All checks had been done and it was very much a behaviour issue.
He went to Will for 5 weeks and came back a different horse. The only thing that didn't change was his nature, he still loves people, wants cuddles and has "a personality" He's 16hh and my then five, now six year old hacks him out on the lead rein.
Will not only retrained him, he gave his owner the tools to deal with any slip ups/ return to bad habits. He's gone from a lost cause that would have to be sold for peanuts to a wonderful allrounder taking on everything we ask of him.
He went to Will for 5 weeks and came back a different horse. The only thing that didn't change was his nature, he still loves people, wants cuddles and has "a personality" He's 16hh and my then five, now six year old hacks him out on the lead rein.
Will not only retrained him, he gave his owner the tools to deal with any slip ups/ return to bad habits. He's gone from a lost cause that would have to be sold for peanuts to a wonderful allrounder taking on everything we ask of him.
supernova21
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Nice to hear a positive review, I have seen a few on facebook as well, thanks
Annagain
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I really like what I've seen of Sophie Seymour online and when I was dealing with her about a horse she had in on sales livery - he sold before I could get there but she was very honest and decent.
Having said that, the reason why so many of us, from all over the country, know about her is she's very good at social media (which is brilliant for her and for the kind approach she advocates). I'm sure there are others, maybe a bit closer, to you who have a similar approach and get similar results. The nature of asking on here is you'll get recommendations for high profile people by people who are making those recommendations based on what they've seen online rather than in real life.
I'm not knocking her at all, I have nothing but respect for her and she's certainly someone I'd have in mind if I needed help with something (I'm only an hour away). I'm just saying if you can't get booked in with her or if you feel she's too far away, I'm sure you'd find someone similar who is as good with horses but doesn't have such a high profile by asking people in your area as well as on here.
Having said that, the reason why so many of us, from all over the country, know about her is she's very good at social media (which is brilliant for her and for the kind approach she advocates). I'm sure there are others, maybe a bit closer, to you who have a similar approach and get similar results. The nature of asking on here is you'll get recommendations for high profile people by people who are making those recommendations based on what they've seen online rather than in real life.
I'm not knocking her at all, I have nothing but respect for her and she's certainly someone I'd have in mind if I needed help with something (I'm only an hour away). I'm just saying if you can't get booked in with her or if you feel she's too far away, I'm sure you'd find someone similar who is as good with horses but doesn't have such a high profile by asking people in your area as well as on here.
milliepops
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this is very true. I know someone local to me that I've used before, who is very good with tricky horses and extremely patient and kind but who doesn't have a big FB presence etc.
Indefatigable
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Someone I used to know sent a horse to Michael Peace. Sounds like he is second to none when it comes to sorting out horses (but maybe not people!). But the thing to remember with all these horse fixers is that they are all just trying to make a living (a bit like private health care!) and I think sorting out all possible pain/veterinary issues FIRST will save a lot of time and expense in the longer term.
supernova21
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spotty_pony
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supernova - mickey gavin is local to you (and me) and I have heard good things. I started rebacking a bery nervy clydesdale but had a nasty fall off him abd admitted defeat but he managed to get him going so
Might be worth giving him a call.
Might be worth giving him a call.
vanrim
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I have used Jay Johnson and so have at least two other people I know locally, one of whom is a Grand Prix dressage rider (it was a very tricky youngster). He might look like a rough cowboy and he doesn’t mince his words but boy is he brave. He isn’t cruel but he knows that a dangerous horse can bloody kill you for sure hence the gear he wears. He will speak his mind where other people are trying to sort out dangerous horses if he thinks they do not have the capability. He told me that he once told an owner her horse would never be safe to ride. She didn’t take his advice and the horse bolted and killed itself and the rider. I once went to see a HorseBox that was for sale as the owner had come off a horse (it corkscrewed with her at the trainers facility prior to her bringing it home as “fixed”) It had been in training with a very very well known person (not mentioned here in this thread) used to dealing with difficult dangerous horses. Her doctor told her if she fell off again she could lose her arm so she had the horse put down and was giving up. Sorting out dangerous horses is a very specialist job. I have no experience of other people mentioned here but I would recommend Jay.
milliepops
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I think there's a difference between a dangerous horse and a difficult or tricky one. A difficult horse more than likely needs time and understanding to learn what is required. Just clinging on like a limpet isn't teaching the horse a lot more than "give up because I'm not getting off".
A horse that is truly dangerous probably needs retiring from attempting to be ridden tbh.
A horse that is truly dangerous probably needs retiring from attempting to be ridden tbh.
HorsesRule2009
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Definitely Sophie Seymour
TPO
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Exactly
Always mildly amusing when people pop up to defend the indefensible and end up digging a bigger hole for the person in question.
Absolutely nothing in the description of his work that is anyway redeeming and it only serves to further cement his complete lack of horsemanship.
Being able to stay on a distressed horse highlights the incompetence and the unacceptable amount of upset he is willing to cause a horse. A good trainer and horseman does all in their power to fix the problem and ensure that the horse doesn't reach those levels of distress. That's because proper horsemen care about the horses in their charge.
I often wonder what horses have ever done to deserve the owners that they get who are happy to engage the services of people like him. Disgraceful
supernova21
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I agree
If I felt she was dangerous I wouldn't even be considering this idea but she is just a young horse that has had a difficult first few years and needs a guiding hand from a kind, professional now that everything else is sorted.
I've had numerous ''brave'' people offer to get on her and I've declined this as it would simply do her more harm than good. I won't be using Jay, she means too much to me to ever do that to her but as I've said I'm sure he has worked wonders for some people but it's not the approach I like