Turned away due to my weight :(

Forest Fox said:
Get your blubber butt into the gym..end of ...
Horses are animals not HGVS
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Ehm, I'm not sure FF is saying anything here that others on this thread haven't said.......... possibly others have "dressed it up" a bit more, but TBH isn't this the essence of what others have been saying??? And plenty of us have posted on this thread advising the OP to basically fitten up and/or lose weight - and there have been a great deal of posts to that very effect.

Whilst I accept that the phraseology might offend; I think that there are a lot of issues on this thread which is clouding the real issue. Sometimes language can be helpful, sometimes not, and sometimes there is a sense in which something said in one culture which wouldn't offend, definately would in another. For instance, maybe FF's use of language wouldn't cause so much offence in say an American or Australian culture? whereas we here in the UK are used to having things dressed up a bit more? For e.g. I used to work with a lovely Australian lady..... and this is the sort of thing I could well imagine her coming out with - and it wouldn't be a deliberate desire to offend, it would be just a way of saying something which is short & succinct for the occasion.

So as I see it, OK - real issue: OP is a novice, up until her instructor says so, doesn't realise she's too heavy to ride the majority of horses. Instructor says she must lose weight in order to ride & offers a practical solution. OP comes on here and asks for advice. Gets it, but obviously doesn't like it and takes umbrage and continues to ask why shouldn't she ride despite the fact she's way overweight.

Sorry but I can't see TBH what all the fuss is about. OP has asked for advice, has got it. Now its up to her.

Please note I'm not defending FF's comments which some feel are insensitive and inappropriate, however I am merely trying to offer some clarification of the core issue involved here.
 
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For the record, and for Fiona12, yes, I made the popcorn comment - NOT attesting to a troll post, but rather one that (from being here perhaps too long !) I (and many of us) knew would turn out to be a long, long, protracted and heavily debated post. Same as Parelli. Same as all the other "am i too big/novice/small/inexperienced threads.

Troll or NOT, this post has provided plenty of time to sip wine, eat cupcakes, popcorn, whatever, whilst sitting back and enjoying the shocked responses and "horrified" defenses that only come from HHO. That's why I love HHO. It's such an education .
 
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DabDab said:
Who is she?
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I don't know...or care. Tbh, she's probably loving this...but that's fine. My only hope is that one day, when her actions catch up with her conscience, that she will,have someone in her life that will help her forgive herself....otherwise she has a very unhappy future ahead of her.

Yes FF, you may be perfectly happy being who you are now...but it won't last forever. I don't want you to be vilified when that happens...i want someone to show you the human kindness that you so desperately lack and actually help you.

If that makes me a mug, so be it. I'd rather be walked all over but be nice than be so disgusting that I walk all over others
 
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
Ehm, I'm not sure FF is saying anything here that others on this thread haven't said.......... possibly others have "dressed it up" a bit more, but TBH isn't this the essence of what others have been saying??? And plenty of us have posted on this thread advising the OP to basically fitten up and/or lose weight - and there have been a great deal of posts to that very effect.

Whilst I accept that the phraseology might offend; I think that there are a lot of issues on this thread which is clouding the real issue.

Real issue: OP is a novice, up until her instructor says so, doesn't realise she's too heavy to ride the majority of horses. Instructor says she must lose weight in order to ride & offers a practical solution. OP comes on here and asks for advice. Gets it, but obviously doesn't like it and takes umbrage and continues to ask why shouldn't she ride despite the fact she's way overweight.

Sorry but I can't see TBH what all the fuss is about. OP has asked for advice, has got it. Now its up to her???
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I totally agree. But would it have been that hard to say, "get yourself to the gym" as opposed to "get your blubber butt to the gym"?

I fully admit though that FF has shown me how genuinely disgusting a oerson she actually is, so perhaps I am not being my normal objective self.
 
_GG_ said:
I don't know...or care. Tbh, she's probably loving this...but that's fine. My only hope is that one day, when her actions catch up with her conscience, that she will,have someone in her life that will help her forgive herself....otherwise she has a very unhappy future ahead of her.

Yes FF, you may be perfectly happy being who you are now...but it won't last forever. I don't want you to be vilified when that happens...i want someone to show you the human kindness that you so desperately lack and actually help you.

If that makes me a mug, so be it. I'd rather be walked all over but be nice than be so disgusting that I walk all over others
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This ^^^
I actually feel sorry for her.
 
FF is not the person I think some of you think she is !!!

FF is just nasty and spiteful , I could go further but won't, because I am a grown up, and understand that some people are just attention seekers
 
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
Ehm, I'm not sure FF is saying anything here that others on this thread haven't said.......... possibly others have "dressed it up" a bit more, but TBH isn't this the essence of what others have been saying??? And plenty of us have posted on this thread advising the OP to basically fitten up and/or lose weight - and there have been a great deal of posts to that very effect.

Whilst I accept that the phraseology might offend; I think that there are a lot of issues on this thread which is clouding the real issue. Sometimes language can be helpful, sometimes not, and sometimes there is a sense in which something said in one culture which wouldn't offend, definately would in another. For instance, maybe FF's use of language wouldn't cause so much offence in say an American or Australian culture? whereas we here in the UK are used to having things dressed up a bit more? For e.g. I used to work with a lovely Australian lady..... and this is the sort of thing I could well imagine her coming out with - and it wouldn't be a deliberate desire to offend, it would be just a way of saying something which is short & succinct for the occasion.

So OK - real issue: OP is a novice, up until her instructor says so, doesn't realise she's too heavy to ride the majority of horses. Instructor says she must lose weight in order to ride & offers a practical solution. OP comes on here and asks for advice. Gets it, but obviously doesn't like it and takes umbrage and continues to ask why shouldn't she ride despite the fact she's way overweight.

Sorry but I can't see TBH what all the fuss is about. OP has asked for advice, has got it. Now its up to her???
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Well yes, there have been a lot of inappropriate comments on this thread. While it is perfectly reasonable to tell someone that they are too heavy to ride, it is not a stranger's place imho, to tell someone to lose weight - their body, their choice. Also, delivery really does count for a lot, rightly or wrongly - I could politely refer to some as having black skin without causing offence, but if I use the n word I could be arrested. 'blubber butt' is deeply offensive.
 
Avicii said:
Right i am sick of forest fox, and i dont care that i out myself.

Im delicious D and forest fox is Daydreamdolly formerly mad cat lady etc etc. I am sick of people thinking i am her.

I know i have done wrong in the past, but FF you are vile and i have expressed in facebook and on here to tone it down. You have told me you are having a few issues and ignore advise to have time off the net as you flout being anonymous on here. I want no party in your foul tirades anymore.

**waits to be banned - again**

Sorry to everyone I have personally upset past and present.
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Well said :) could not agree more , welcome back :)
 
Avicii said:
Right i am sick of forest fox, and i dont care that i out myself.

Im delicious D and forest fox is Daydreamdolly formerly mad cat lady etc etc. I am sick of people thinking i am her.

I know i have done wrong in the past, but FF you are vile and i have expressed in facebook and on here to tone it down. You have told me you are having a few issues and ignore advise to have time off the net as you flout being anonymous on here. I want no party in your foul tirades anymore.

**waits to be banned - again**

Sorry to everyone I have personally upset past and present.
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LOL .... LOL ... choke .. cough .. spit .... (wipes screen) .. LOL ... I don't think so ... cough ..cough .. arrrgh .... (smacks chest) ... breeeeaaaath ....

Thread has gone arseways ... but you have to admire forestfox's enthusiasm for trying to mess it up a little. Try harder.
 
I was a bit confused as its been implied that she's dunroamin or whatever other names they go by now days!

Whoever she is she needs to just be banned, why are people allowed to even make new accounts after a ban doesn't that defeat the object of banning in the first place?!
 
doriangrey said:
LOL .... LOL ... choke .. cough .. spit .... (wipes screen) .. LOL ... I don't think so ... cough ..cough .. arrrgh .... (smacks chest) ... breeeeaaaath ....

Thread has gone arseways ... but you have to admire forestfox's enthusiasm for trying to mess it up a little. Try harder.
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What are you suggesting?
 
risky business said:
I was a bit confused as its been implied that she's dunroamin or whatever other names they go by now days!

Whoever she is she needs to just been banned, why are people allowed to even make new accounts after a ban doesn't that defeat the object of banning in the first place?!
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Presumably they just join with a new email address?
 
doriangrey said:
LOL .... LOL ... choke .. cough .. spit .... (wipes screen) .. LOL ... I don't think so ... cough ..cough .. arrrgh .... (smacks chest) ... breeeeaaaath ....

Thread has gone arseways ... but you have to admire forestfox's enthusiasm for trying to mess it up a little. Try harder.
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Really ? I don't believe for one minute it is DD, I am more than willing to be proved wrong though
 
Avicii said:
Loving having such supportive friends ;)

If im going down im taking fergs with me!
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You know you can rely on me.

You can't take Fergs with you. He's like the sword of gryffindor, he only appears to those who deserve him :D
 
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