TURNERS ABBATOIR - RED LION

Mredd was being a trifle silly, in their opening attacks, but I'm sure that given time, and a degree of reasoning, then the poster may well have calmed down, and offered valid argument.

I suspect that Admin has been a little heavy handed.

Alec.
 
mredd11 said:
hi im back !! i guess someone must have reported me :confused:
not sure why ?
maybe i did come across a little hostile but i have been attacked for a few weeks now (not on here) and did take a hostile post of 1 person lol
I suppose it comes down to being passionate about what i believe in.
I am no stranger to slaughter houses and as the same as everything in life.
some i have been in have been ran to precision. I believe they all should be.
21st century yet still treat animals like cave men ?
seen lots of distressing footage over the last few weeks cant believe i have been so naive all these years :o
I think turner should be made a example of, and it be a lesson to the rest !!
welfare should always be paramount, and the fsa well they are a waste of space :(
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:D:D BYE BYE!!

Next time, A NONNY MOUSE!! ;):D

Alec.

ETS, Blimey O'Reilly, that was quick!! a.

ETS11, I'm pleased to see that mredd agrees with me that the FSA are not facing up to their work. It isn't good enough. a.
 
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mredd11 said:
hi im back !! i guess someone must have reported me :confused:
not sure why ?
maybe i did come across a little hostile but i have been attacked for a few weeks now (not on here) and did take a hostile post of 1 person lol
I suppose it comes down to being passionate about what i believe in.
I am no stranger to slaughter houses and as the same as everything in life.
some i have been in have been ran to precision. I believe they all should be.
21st century yet still treat animals like cave men ?
seen lots of distressing footage over the last few weeks cant believe i have been so naive all these years :o
I think turner should be made a example of, and it be a lesson to the rest !!
welfare should always be paramount, and the fsa well they are a waste of space :(
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I think everyone here would agree with most of what you say. The mad thing about this thread, is we're pretty much all on the same side, yet people are coming here ranting against us. :confused: It's rather confusing.
 
Oh. Deep joy, the troll is back.

I really need to start dredging under these bridges, it must be that time of year when HHO contract me to dredge the bridges.....
where the heck is shils when you need her.....
 
guido16 said:
Oh. Deep joy, the troll is back.

I really need to start dredging under these bridges, it must be that time of year when HHO contract me to dredge the bridges.....
where the heck is shils when you need her.....
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your understanding of the word troll is wrong.

i dont believe mredd is here to cause trouble or stir things up for the sake of it - the definition of a troll. Rather, just a little ranty and defensive in her argument.
 
lula said:
your understanding of the word troll is wrong.

i dont believe mredd is here to cause trouble or stir things up for the sake of it - the definition of a troll. Rather, just a little ranty and defensive in her argument.
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I'm not sure. I suspect she and a few others are goading each other on a fb group to come over here and wind us up. :rolleyes:
 
lula said:
your understanding of the word troll is wrong.

i dont believe mredd is here to cause trouble or stir things up for the sake of it - the definition of a troll. Rather, just a little ranty and defensive in her argument.
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Lula, my understanding of the troll, who she is, what she is doing and what she is stirring, as per her FB page is totally clear to me.

Therefore, TROLL is an accurate description of her.

Anyway, since the troll has been banned, opened a new account, I will say "see ya troll" to her as TFC is likely to drop kick her somewhere very quickly...


Naughty troll showing total disrespect to TFC.
 
FionaM12 said:
I'm not sure. I suspect she and a few others are goading each other on a fb group to come over here and wind us up. :rolleyes:
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ah, well that's entirely possible and very likely actually. i take my comment back.

i dont blame her for disrespecting the TFC. (watch me get a ban now!) - by trying to sneak in under a different name. its done on loads of forums but i appreciate its not going to make the TFC happy.

The trick is tho to use a bit of savvy and not come back as exactly the same person and start off where you left off!!
 
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what a pity there has been a need to 'get rid' of Mredd from this thread....this Forum is a rich tapestry of posters verging on the mad, the bad and the utterly insane, the also rans, the good, the riteous, those that can spell and those that can't, the incoherent, the coherent, the sane and everything inbetween :D who all have something to offer :cool:

i suspect that somebody doesnt like the 'T' word being banded about, but at least the posts survive in 'quotes'.
 
FionaM12 said:
I'm not sure. I suspect she and a few others are goading each other on a fb group to come over here and wind us up. :rolleyes:
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Well if that is what is happening you would have thought that they would send over a rather more erudite and informed member than CHL!
 
Amaranta said:
Well if that is what is happening you would have thought that they would send over a rather more erudite and informed member than CHL!
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I don't think they're the brightest crayons in the box. :o;)


(Although, I think those probably were the best they had...)
 
Amaranta said:
Well she's gone again - how quick was that!
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I'm sure they'll send some more to "educate" us all soon. :D;)



It's very silly, we all pretty much agree about improving conditions for horse slaughter, for which there is a sad and regrettable need (although we don't all want to make personal remarks against the Turner family). :( Yet these people from the fb group want to come and shout us down and accuse us all of being horse murderers. :confused:

In this case, they really are trolls. I suppose we should just ignore them all.
 
OK AFTER POSTING WHAT I THOUGHT MAY BE INFORMATIVE AND POSITIVE POSTS I HAVE DECIDED THAT I WILL NO LONGER PARTICIPATE. I WOULD RATHER WATCH FROM A DISTANCE. MY CONCIOUS IS CLEAR AND I HAVE MY VIEWS, AND I AM NO LONGER GOING TO POST. GOOD LUCK ALL. I REALLY THOUGHT THAT THIS FORUM WOULD BE SENSIBLE AS IT WHAT I USED TO CALL MY BIBLE (HORSE AND HOUND I MEAN BY THIS)HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGEDx
 
Bertieb123 said:
OK AFTER POSTING WHAT I THOUGHT MAY BE INFORMATIVE AND POSITIVE POSTS I HAVE DECIDED THAT I WILL NO LONGER PARTICIPATE. I WOULD RATHER WATCH FROM A DISTANCE. MY CONCIOUS IS CLEAR AND I HAVE MY VIEWS, AND I AM NO LONGER GOING TO POST. GOOD LUCK ALL. I REALLY THOUGHT THAT THIS FORUM WOULD BE SENSIBLE AS IT WHAT I USED TO CALL MY BIBLE (HORSE AND HOUND I MEAN BY THIS)HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGEDx
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:confused: I never understand the need for posts like this. If you don't want to post again, absolutely fine. I don't understand the big shouty announcement though. ;):D
 
Bertieb123 said:
y
yes on the FSA Web site they listed as slaughtering solipeds but not sure if they active now.
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I think that you need to understand that there are those abattoirs which whilst still licensed, and listed as such, are in effect mothballed for the purpose of equine slaughter. There are, so I understand, a dozen or so redundant companies and premises, dotted around the country.

There are also licensed horse slaughterers (knackermen to you and I), and again, whilst they operate from a premises, they are not licensed for the purpose of supplying meat in any form, except perhaps for the supply to zoos, for their flesh eating inhabitants. Such companies invariably incinerate those carcasses which they collect.

The only "Operational" equine abattoirs which are trading as such, are Turners and Potters, as far as I'm aware.

Alec.
 
There is a third Alec, in North Yorkshire apparently :)

I only knew about Potters and Turners until recently, but the lists on the FSA indicate 3 as well.
 
FionaM12 said:
:confused: I never understand the need for posts like this. If you don't want to post again, absolutely fine. I don't understand the big shouty announcement though. ;):D
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its called a flounce fiona

no point having one if you cant draw the maximum attention to it by announcing it first. ;):rolleyes:
 
Amaranta said:
There is a third Alec, in North Yorkshire apparently :)

I only knew about Potters and Turners until recently, but the lists on the FSA indicate 3 as well.
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Hmm phrased that wrongly, I mean to say I only knew about Potters and Turners and found out about the third through the FSA site doh!
 
amandap said:
That's a new word I've learned today. :)
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Soliped
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Me too - see, this thread is educational :p

I thought this would be of relevance to this thread. An article in H&H about making provision for your horse at the end of his days: http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/316333.html and the fallen stock scheme, which sounds like it would be a relatively low cost way to dispose of your horse:
http://www.nfsco.co.uk/about-the-scheme.php#1_2


Of course the sad thing is that this forum doesn't tend to reach those who really need to see the above :(
 
I thought this would be of relevance to this thread. An article in H&H about making provision for your horse at the end of his days: http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/316333.html and the fallen stock scheme, which sounds like it would be a relatively low cost way to dispose of your horse:
http://www.nfsco.co.uk/about-the-scheme.php#1_2




yeah I wonder that too, but unfortunately not - by registering you get a list of the local knackermen and the prices they charge - so no reduction in costs unfortunately. Seems to be a way of DEFRA earning money and information imo - you have to pay to register then pay for an annual compliance statement and extra for monthly statements. So not only do they earn a bit for this, but also they know exactly what / how much stock you've lost / disposed of.

The passport system has done absolutely nothing for horse welfare, which if I recall correctly was one of the propaganda selling points of it. Also not so many years ago the knackerman would pay you (albeit a very small amount) to destroy the horse / take it away. Whilst this is distasteful as is sending horses to Potters / Turners, surely that is better for horse welfare for the ones with no future than the downward spiral of dragging them from sale to sale / home to home....
 
david c said:
I thought this would be of relevance to this thread. An article in H&H about making provision for your horse at the end of his days: http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/316333.html and the fallen stock scheme, which sounds like it would be a relatively low cost way to dispose of your horse:
http://www.nfsco.co.uk/about-the-scheme.php#1_2




yeah I wonder that too, but unfortunately not - by registering you get a list of the local knackermen and the prices they charge - so no reduction in costs unfortunately. Seems to be a way of DEFRA earning money and information imo - you have to pay to register then pay for an annual compliance statement and extra for monthly statements. So not only do they earn a bit for this, but also they know exactly what / how much stock you've lost / disposed of.
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Agree with you. I think the H&H article was misleading.

It's a not-for-profit organisation that charges subscribers for a list that anyone can source from their vet.
And the point of that is ?
 
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