Turning out a fully clipped horse at night

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The advise from my trainer was to chuck J out at night as he has far too much energy for his own good, and it is getting dangerous again. So he is freshly clipped is this really fair? I know mentally he will be better but just worry about his condition and the fields are so wet at the moment.

Also if your clipped horses are out at night, what are they wearing?

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I wouldn't worry about turning a fully clipped horse out at night at all as long as they had enough rugs, lots of ad lib fibre and shelter.
 
I turned mine out last year with a full clip and heavy weight TO rug. I think they even do super heavyweight rugs these days!
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Mine is half clipped and wearing a medium at the moment and is jolly warm with all this mild weather. Even when we had that cold snap before he was still toasty
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Because he is so ribby, I want to be able to keep feeding him, he isnt having any 'hard food' really anyway, just alfa oil and alfa beet, with some equine sensitive being added in gradually. He is out all day now, but still full of himself, tbh he is like that on no food at all.
 
I leave mine out some nights, mainly if we have been ata competition or something all day, and he hasn't had any turnout. He's fully clipped, fully rugged and absolutely fine!
 
When I turned my chap out for the first time for 24/7 it was the making of him (although I couldnt sleep for the first few nights
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Id go for it if I were you!
 
Re. ribbiness and excitability - my TB was at his most manic when he was underweight. I think the fact he felt 'thin' made him extra highly strung. He is now on a barley-free diet of Baileys' No4 Conditioning cubes, baileys outshine and AlfaOil along with brewer's yeast and he is actually calmer!

sounds mad I know but I think being thin (and probably perpetually hungry (in his head!) because of that) made him irrational and manic.

re. turnout - rugs replace the clipped off coat so why worry.
 
Mine were out 24/7 until last week (with free access to their stables). They are TB's and blanket clipped. They wear full neck heavy weight rambo's with a medium weight stable rug underneath when it is cold at night. If it's not too cold they just wear a knitted cooler (clyst rug) under the t/o. They've only come in as one has a foot abcess. I've got long turn out socks but I don't use them much. Our gateways are stoned and at the moment the mud beyond that is only hoof deep. One is old and gets quite stressy if stabled too much. (Box walks). I would try Jerry out as much as possible. Lots of racehorse trainers turn racehorses out 'to chill' even when they are in training. Just get ready for the muddy horse - it's amazing how dirty they can get even with full rugs on!
 
i know you have this discission in comps, but i would change alfa oil (blows my tb brains ) and defo remove alfa beet and change to alfa A or even Hifi light and then a good cool mix or cube. I would also suggest if poss go have a good chat to feed merchant or phone them, you need to reduce instant sugar contain and get hind gut working.... slow release stuff.

but if you give them many smarties to they can't help going loon on you.........

I he doesn't look hat rack at ALL if all else fails, i would also defo look about feeding calmer aswell
 
My horse has been turned out 24/7 all winter. He is fully clipped, including legs and head. He has plenty of rugs and adlib hay. My trainer cant believe he looks so well! He is now looking slightly fat! He is too sharp when I ride him if he is stabled. Even if he is stabled for one night, I tend to get bucked off!
 
wow....................... difficult one........

off the wall one of my mates horses has got gut problems and she gives him a Aloera drink............ this could be and angle to go down........

but i'm no expert??????? just an idea
 
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i know you have this discission in comps, but i would change alfa oil (blows my tb brains ) and defo remove alfa beet and change to alfa A or even Hifi light and then a good cool mix or cube. I would also suggest if poss go have a good chat to feed merchant or phone them, you need to reduce instant sugar contain and get hind gut working.... slow release stuff.

but if you give them many smarties to they can't help going loon on you.........

I he doesn't look hat rack at ALL if all else fails, i would also defo look about feeding calmer aswell

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Alfa a oil is (I think) the only one not mollassed. Yours sounds a bit like my boy and I removed everything I was feeding except hay and gradually introduced stuff 1 thing at a time and then kept it like that for a week before adding something else or removing the 1st thing if he went silly. I found that adding oil of any kind (well soya or sunflower) made him really silly and spooky although he is fine with alfa a oil oddly. Since doing this we have had 2 days where he has been a bit jumpy and the rest he has been really good.
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I wouldnt worry about chucking him out. You can always bring him in occassionally on really awful nights. As long as he's well rugged up, dont see a problem. 2 of mine are hunter clipped every winter and live out 24/7.
 
Never had a problem so long as there is ad-lib hay and a good rug. I've used Premier Equine rugs for fully-clipped horses in hard work out 24/7 and they've always been warm and dry
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We've got two out 24/7 unless it rains, then they come in. I wouldn't do it unless they have full knecked rugs and if chilly a thin rug on too.
The stable temperatures are colder than being outside at the moment so, I can't see the difference apart from it being dry.
Ours have now grown thin coats so probably warmer than a month or two ago, but they don't seem to worry and always feel toasty warm under the rug if you put your hand in.
 
I have chucked mine out due similar problem as yours, Ribby TB too much engery!! It's first night tonight, thematex and Duo on top.. warm as toast, plenty of hay in field, Girlfriend. what more he needs!

He'll be brought in during day (7 hours in, rest out) for food, more hay, sleep, and exercise!
 
The only thing I would be worried about is if he is intolerant to molasses that might mean that he is intolerant to grass as well? as it is the same sort of starch in both.
 
Although a pony , Tommy is out fully clipped, with a 400 MW turnout rug with full neck , The way I see it is , hes better out moving around and warming himself up than standing in a cold stable . He was out last night as it was quite mild , tonight is to give rain and wind, but hes staying out , will more than likely bring him in tomorrow if its raining , just to let his rug dry off .


I would put him out, providing he has a stable rug, with full neck turnout on him , he will be fine . Whats he like when he goes out into the field ? does he enjoy it ? as in does gallop and mess about ? Does he come to if he has been out for awhile ? showing signs of him wanting to go in ?
 
Flo goes out at night and is fully clipped. She wears a MW stable rug under her HW Combo Turnout
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I think turning Jerry out 24/7 is a fab idea. Worked for my WB very well, shes far too fresh when kept in.
 
Can he eat barley?

If so try boiled barley, sugarbeet and a few tablespoons of oil. Puts condition on VERY quickly and doesn't send them stupid. I was very reluctant to put my WB on it, as she can be v. high strung....had no probs.
 
I gather you haven't seen my post then! I have always turned my dressage horse out full clipped as he prefers this, but have more recently had to turn my youngster out 24/7 as he was getting so fresh in it was dangerous and he had thrown me badly. He is a lot better, he wears two heavy combo's and medium at night and the two combo's during the day. He loses weight easily but seems to be doing ok at the moment.
 
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The only thing I would be worried about is if he is intolerant to molasses that might mean that he is intolerant to grass as well? as it is the same sort of starch in both.

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Thats a good point, hopefully he will be ok, has never had a problem before and was out 24/7 last summer.
 
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