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My little mare lives out 24/7, she has a blanket clip and wears a mw or HW dependent on weather.

She however gets a very dirty greasy coat, being bay she starts to get a grey sheen despite grooming (in fact grooming seems to make it worse) her coat is 100% better when she wears a fleece underneath and I wash it every week and swap with a clean one.

The fleeces all slip back and get tight round her withers and shoulders, so I need a very light weight rug (easy to chuck through normal washing machine) that won't move at all, any suggestions?
 
I would try a lighter weight rug and see if the grease decreases, she sounds like she is too hot to me. Shires do a nice rug with detachable liners in it, very useful rug.
 
I would try a lighter weight rug and see if the grease decreases, she sounds like she is too hot to me. Shires do a nice rug with detachable liners in it, very useful rug.

I agree I would maybe get a 100g rug as she only has a blanket clip, mine are fully clipped and I only put a 200g on the finer coated one a few nights ago when it dropped right down, I tend to use the 100g rug more than any other at the moment it's not really that cold.
 
In the old days we always put a cotton summer sheet on under rugs as they were so easy to chuck in the washing machine.

However I am with the other posters in that a lighter weight rug might be in order. I have a number of horses that are fully clipped and they are still in lightweight rugs (approx 70 - 100 g).
 
I've just bought a silky liner from Snuggy Hoods. Only cost £30. It's on it's way in the post, so I can't tell you what it's like yet but it adds a bit of warmth, isn't meant to slip back and goes in the washing machine.
 
I use cotton sheets under my horses rugs as I find they stay in place better than a fleece. I can wash them easier than their turnout rugs and it also means I don't have to use such a heavy weight rug.
 
I've just bought a silky liner from Snuggy Hoods. Only cost £30. It's on it's way in the post, so I can't tell you what it's like yet but it adds a bit of warmth, isn't meant to slip back and goes in the washing machine.

they are an absolute nightmare and a total waste of money! They are so slippery the actual rug just slides about on top of them. I bought 2 and both ended up shredded as they slipped. None of my rugs ever slipped without them!
 
Cheap and cheerful Amigo 100g stable rug would do the job. I have a couple of the Premier Equine liners that started off as 100g but are so old that they are probably more like 50g now and I have several of the 100g and 150g Amigo stable rugs that I can bung underneath their turnouts if needed. Shires also do a 50g or 100g cheap stable rug, I have a couple of those as well and use as liners. Rambo/Amigo also do rug liners, have one of those as well but I got it cheap at a boot sale as wouldn't pay full price for them!

Any cheap and cheerful stable rug would do, have a hunt on ebay for 2nd hand ones, bung 'em through the washing machine and bobs your uncle, perfect turnout liners.

Mine are fully clipped (legs and head on) and live out 24/7, the heaviest rugs they wear are medium weights, don't own any heavy weights any more and it's only my mare that feels the cold more as she's an older girl so she has the biggest selection of under rugs to wear. They all get washed weekly or bi-weekly depending on how dirty they are.
 
they are an absolute nightmare and a total waste of money! They are so slippery the actual rug just slides about on top of them. I bought 2 and both ended up shredded as they slipped. None of my rugs ever slipped without them!

They are also as static as hell. Alf and I had a serious falling out over one!
 
Cheap and cheerful Amigo 100g stable rug would do the job. I have a couple of the Premier Equine liners that started off as 100g but are so old that they are probably more like 50g now and I have several of the 100g and 150g Amigo stable rugs that I can bung underneath their turnouts if needed. Shires also do a 50g or 100g cheap stable rug, I have a couple of those as well and use as liners. Rambo/Amigo also do rug liners, have one of those as well but I got it cheap at a boot sale as wouldn't pay full price for them!

Any cheap and cheerful stable rug would do, have a hunt on ebay for 2nd hand ones, bung 'em through the washing machine and bobs your uncle, perfect turnout liners.

Mine are fully clipped (legs and head on) and live out 24/7, the heaviest rugs they wear are medium weights, don't own any heavy weights any more and it's only my mare that feels the cold more as she's an older girl so she has the biggest selection of under rugs to wear. They all get washed weekly or bi-weekly depending on how dirty they are.

Excellent advice, I have a high blanket clipped youngster living out, pouring down all day today but he is comfortable and bone dry in his amigo 100g with a Shires no fill with neck over the top.
 
Agree that perhaps she needs a lighter weight rug. Mine is fully clipped incl. legs and head, and spent all last winter in a MW with various layers underneath when it got cold, and has only worn the MW or the LW so far this year! But if you're looking for something easy to wash, cotton sheets are a great thing. Mine was definitely a great investment, it's 100% the rug that gets the most use! Mine wasn't an expensive one (about £15-20), but it washes brilliantly and still looks like new. Use it underneath rugs in the winter to keep them cleaner and to keep the coat looking nice, and use it on it's own on milder days :)
 
I use the Maxima Versimax under-rugs - they are 100g and cut snugly to fit under normal stable rugs or turnout rugs. They are nylon lined so keep the coat nice and shiny, don't slip back like fleeces and wash easily in a domestic washing machine and dry very quickly.
 
Thank you all for advise, she is is mw most of time with HW when very cold or wet, wore it twice all last winter :)

She does seem to feel the cold and I have found her shivering in her MW last few days so don't think its a case of being over hot.

I will look at cheap stable rugs and see if that works, thank you :)
 
Thank you all for advise, she is is mw most of time with HW when very cold or wet, wore it twice all last winter :)

She does seem to feel the cold and I have found her shivering in her MW last few days so don't think its a case of being over hot.

I will look at cheap stable rugs and see if that works, thank you :)

Can I ask what sort of horse/age she is. We haven't had any cold weather yet and for her to be shivering in a MW rug would alarm me if she was mine.
 
Can I ask what sort of horse/age she is. We haven't had any cold weather yet and for her to be shivering in a MW rug would alarm me if she was mine.

This. I would be seriously concerned at a horse who only has a blanket clip shivering in a middleweight. I would be concerned at something full clipped shivering in a middleweight!! It's still so so warm. Mine had a chaser and is still naked. I would worry something isn't right with this horse.
 
They are also as static as hell. Alf and I had a serious falling out over one!

yep, chiming in to express my disappointment at them too! Millie got throttled by hers.
As soon as we are out of rainsheets, I use horseware liners which wash easily and dry quickly.
 
This. I would be seriously concerned at a horse who only has a blanket clip shivering in a middleweight. I would be concerned at something full clipped shivering in a middleweight!! It's still so so warm. Mine had a chaser and is still naked. I would worry something isn't right with this horse.

I'm in the "warm" south - Surrey and we've had cold down to a few degrees and serious frost in last week. Is back up to about 7 degrees now
 
Thank you all, she 5 welsh x tb, 14.2hh.

It was -4 here this morning at 6am, she felt toasty under rug but was definitely shivering, after a hack she had warmed up and was fine.

Owned her since birth and always been the same, I owned her mum over 10 years and she feels the cold massively too, and would drop weight at insane amount as soon as it dropped below 5 degrees! She literally would look like hat rack in spring. 1 winter at she was in HW stable with HW TO over top and still not warm!

Thankfully filly is better as holds weight ok but she still feels the cold, I have spoken to vet about her and her dam a couple of times and he said some of them just have faster metabolisms and feel the cold.

The filly stays considerably warmer when on ab lib haylage compared to hay but she get monstrously fat and protein lumps on her skin.

Both Dam and filly had blood test in feb due to dams weight loss and everything was fine.

It really is a strange 1, we think possibly because she literally stands at hay ring eating rather then moving around so she gets cold.
 
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