Update, for those who are interested

She could be having a phantom pregnancy!


Didn't want to cause too much of an argument at the time but having worked at a stud for 2 years I have learn't a thing or two.

Sorry to hear though that you wont be hearing the patter of tiny hooves but at least you can start having some fun with her again :-)
 
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Didn't want to cause too much of an argument at the time but having worked at a stud for 2 years I have learn't a thing or two.

Sorry to hear though that you wont be hearing the patter of tiny hooves but at least you can start having some fun with her again :-)

Hey, its no problem :D He suspects this was not the case because it is rare in older horses and she has always had a tendency to bloat up, although this didn't change when we had her on a paddock paradise type system, but I guess we will never know for sure ;) The best is that I can ride her again, this adventure is over for her, but beginning for YO's mare, and Ebs and I are on a new adventure :D:D
 
Well, probably all's well that ends well, Ebs is a more mature lady after all and while I'm sure she would have been fine, maybe it's best that she isn't in foal after all IYSWIM.:)

Although I am very much against over-breeding, on a sentimental fluffy level I am also very glad that the YOs mare hung onto her foal. It's AMAZING how mares do that mind you, you see welfare cases that are quite literally skin and bone, yet they'll still produce a foal - they put everything into their foals and keep nothing for themselves. Hope you enjoy the little one when it arrives, and Ebs too of course:)
 
blimey it's like an agatha christie tale lol, Ebs not pregnant but Yo's mare is when she really shouldn't be:eek: nature really is strange:D
whilst i am sorry you have no fluffy foal to play with QB i am very pleased that Ebs is fit and healthy and you get to ride again, as for bloating, i know how she feels lol:o;)
 
Well, probably all's well that ends well, Ebs is a more mature lady after all and while I'm sure she would have been fine, maybe it's best that she isn't in foal after all IYSWIM.:)

Although I am very much against over-breeding, on a sentimental fluffy level I am also very glad that the YOs mare hung onto her foal. It's AMAZING how mares do that mind you, you see welfare cases that are quite literally skin and bone, yet they'll still produce a foal - they put everything into their foals and keep nothing for themselves. Hope you enjoy the little one when it arrives, and Ebs too of course:)

I know, the vets were amazed, they were adamant that it couldn't possibly have lived ;) she bloody well showed them! The YO has a good eye for a horse and this little mare is a beauty, she has also shown in hand at county level and her other foal is doing the same I think. Anyway, this is a lovely little blessing to round it all off, and it has given the daughter something to do, she is currently in her room deciding on what she will call the foal! Again, although this mare was deliberately put to a stallion by the previous owner, this was not planned, but will be very very much loved and cared for. And with 3 younger children, all growing up, this little one will have a certain future, as much as that can be said for any horse.
 
blimey it's like an agatha christie tale lol, Ebs not pregnant but Yo's mare is when she really shouldn't be:eek: nature really is strange:D
whilst i am sorry you have no fluffy foal to play with QB i am very pleased that Ebs is fit and healthy and you get to ride again, as for bloating, i know how she feels lol:o;)

Mrs Peacock in the library with the candle stick... No wait Colonel Mustard, in the drawing room with the lead pipe :D

Anyway, I will definitely post pictures for you all of the foal next year :D
 
i must admit, im a tiny bit dissapointed :-( but also pleased you are able to crack on and ride her! My mare bloats aswell to the point the vet turned around and said to me are you sure she isnt in foal? if she is on short grass she bloats massivley. If she is off the grass and on the hay she deflates.
 
Please take what I'm about to write in the vein in which it's being written. There is no ulterior motive and I mean whatever I write in a kind way (even though it may not come across like this) but the terrible ignorance of some vets totally astound me and I have to raise questions. Sorry.

Firstly I'm very pleased to hear that you now know for sure that the mare is not pregnant. As said I've never thought she looked pregnant in any of the photos but without a vet check this could never have been confirmed or denied. Did the vet take a uterine swab from your mare to see why she has not been cycling? What was his/her explanation for you seeing "foal movements"? I mean foal movements are so erratic and are huge movements that if she's not pregnant then what in the heck were those movements? What about the large swelling under her belly? Golly, sorry for all the questions :o but I don't know whether to feel happy for you or even more worried than I previously was. Problem is I'm a breeder and my mares are so important to me that I would always try to figure things out and be searching everything to get to the bottom of this.

YO purchased a lovely little 13.3 mare a few months ago. She was sold as having been in foal before and having gone back to the stallion in her first season, so possibly in foal, as YO purchased her as a show pony for her daughter she had her injected to abort the foal. Bless her the next couple of days she looked very colicky and sorry for herself. After a week off the daughter started to ride her again, I gave her lessons, and rode the little mare myself (she is a dream... arab x) Then, YO's daughter took a tumble at a jump in another of their horses and damaged her spleen despite wearing a BP, she has to have 3 months off riding. We have been seeing similar changes and rumblings in this little mare, YO rang vets and they said it was not possible for the foal to have lived, that if it was still there it would be fossilised. YO decided to get her checked when they came to do Ebs, because she couldn't stand the not knowing, although she knew in her heart, as the vets had said... It just wasn't possible.....

Was this the same vet who told you a whole pile of nonsense before? Or was this the new vet you've been using (who doesn't sound that much better)? I really think you and your YO need to get a proper horse vet on board because the vets you've been dealing with honestly sound like dimwits to me, sorry :o There is a small window for successfully terminating a pregnancy and providing you inject within that window the pregnancy should (should, not will!) be terminated. If injecting outwith this window then it is very unlikely that the pregnancy will be terminated by injection. So for the vet to say it isn't possible shows a distinct lack of equine reproduction knowledge! I'm not blaming you or your YO as neither of you have this level of equine knowledge .. but an equine vet? Absolutely he/she should know all this basic stuff. Do yourselves a favour and switch vets!
 
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Springfeather, is the foal likely to be damaged by the injection or will it be okay? I really, really hope it will be fine, but I know that certainly in humans all drugs have some risk during pregnancy.
 
QB, I'm glad you'll have plenty of time to ride and have fun with Ebony again. Even though there's no foal, you've said yourself its given you a great opportunity to get to know her even better.

Spring Feather, its nice to see an opinnion get aired in a nice, informative way like you're doing, makes a change! :)

Best of luck to YO's mare, and enjoy Ebs :) x
 
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