Update from Gingerwitch

Lots of huge hugs. Don't beat your self up, hard I know, just now concentrate on one day at a time.

My appy had 15 degree rotation in both front feet and we didn't think he was going to last the month! After a lot of hard work and dieting, which he was not happy about and though as he is on painkillers he could bronc round his stable till
Someone fed him so we had to drop the bute abit so he was in a little bit of pain and would stop broncing. He also was diagnosed with IR.
My vet wasn't sure he would live, and at times neither did we, but over a year later he is back and better than before.

Lots of hugs and if you ever need to chat pm me.
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Im so sorry to hear your news & it so sounds like what happened to my mare.I still 10 years later cannot beleive i didnt follow my instincts & that i took my vet as gospel!! Dont beat yourself up about it & just concentrate on getting your boy better. Huge hugs to you & you are soo doing everything right by your boy.Keep us all updated.xxx
 
I know what you mean, appy is 17, I know big age difference, but vet said it was his will that brought him through it all. Appy is out now up to 7 hours a day on a bare paddock. I am lucky with him as he loves his stable, and 7lb of hay a night with a little fast fibre to have his metformin in morning and night (was 15 tabs twice a day now down to 10)

He will tell you if enough is enough....as long as he has that glint in his eye keep going. The appy took about a month to really start picking up even though he was still cheeky you could tell he was feeling poop but once he got the mess into him and his diet right he seemed to cope better.

You know your horse what he will and will not cope with. He will tell you.

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SC- yes he was still in full work - took a bit of time to warm up, and needed a good ole leg stretch if he had had a dressage lesson or a comp.

and boy oh boy did he buck and bronc if you did not ride him properly - i still smile at this

Just back from the yard... seams quite perky, bit fed up bout the size of the holes in his hay net - (and the size of the hay in the haynet) - but he must have known we were coming to see him - bit like the ole Gingerwitch did -

its scary.... he really really looks well - I just hope we get through this - feel like sueing the vet - but oh says to concentrate on the Big Lad - as any negative vibes will rub off

GW
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Gingerwitch said:
I am fighting on a lot of fronts at the

I am still beating myself up about everything I have done/not done


Ok, what didnt you do ??
Your horse was unwell, You got the vet, a professional who was then responsible for diagnosing and treating your horses problems, you did the right thing there.
You took their advice,tried it and it didnt work, you tried again on more than one occassion to get a more definitive diagnosis for him as you knew he still wasnt right, clearly seeing you were getting nowhere for your boy,You got your farrier, and a second vet, your new diagnosis was then given and youve bent over backwards to get things sorted out for your boy, tell me what else you could've done ??
Please stop beating yourself up, you have done a great job caring for your boy, the delay imo was down to the first vet practice their diagnosis and subsequent arsey attitude to you ..... Not you, so stop it, and channel your energy into getting your boy better.
All the best for your boy, fingers crossed and chin up, you have done your best
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Marydoll- if i had followed my gut... then big lad would have seen 3rd vet (from a different practice) in the 4th week -just after he went lame big time... if i had done this he would have been treated as a potential lami - I would not have forced him to walk, his bed would have been changed to shavings a mile deep, he would not have been left in pain, he would not have been left with no supporting shoe and would have been fitted with heart bars BEFORE the rotation occured.

So yes i feel pretty bad - but omg - if i loose my boy i will sing it from the treetops and take a full page advert out in the local rag about his mis-diagnosis ! and if he pulls through I may just do the same.

A mistake i can forgive
Arrogance - never
 
Aaaaargh seriously, give yourself a break, look at what you have just typed and how you did follow your gut, look at the other people youve involved, over the 1st vet you have got things back on track, hes being treated appropriately now.
We trust our vets to treat appropriately, and sometimes its difficult to challenge them, but you did, and yes, it was later than you in retrospect ( which is always a wonderful thing ) wish youd done, but you still did it, and your boy is being properly treated now you said you feel hes picking up and looking better, all down to your actions .....;)
 
Agree absolutely with Marydoll, we too have followed vet advice and later wondered why we didn't go with our gut, which told us something different. Hindsight is always 20/20. foresight never is!
 
marydoll said:
Aaaaargh seriously, give yourself a break, look at what you have just typed and how you did follow your gut, look at the other people youve involved, over the 1st vet you have got things back on track, hes being treated appropriately now.
We trust our vets to treat appropriately, and sometimes its difficult to challenge them, but you did, and yes, it was later than you in retrospect ( which is always a wonderful thing ) wish youd done, but you still did it, and your boy is being properly treated now you said you feel hes picking up and looking better, all down to your actions .....;)
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Absolutely this ^^ you have done everything in your power to do. do not feel guilty about anything.

Fingers crossed for your big lad, thinking of you and sending you those famous hho vibes xxx
 
10pm check invloved him beating hubby up for daring to talk to the little lad :) tucked into his haynet quite well.

6am check - still standing bit reluctant to move, but walked round for a wee place - his wee is really thick orange with a tint of pink - will speak to vets later about this.

Did not want his hi fi lite - this has his danilion in! - so gave him a tiny bit of fresh wetted hay and will go back about 9am - especailly when he got his nub end carrot with his perigold in ! - he just wants more carrots

Little lad feeling proper left out.... so will try and give him a love later

Vet due for a check up from the colic tomorrow - probably more of a check up for me than anything else and then back Wednesday for x-rays

Me - going back to bed for an hour - I am worn out

cheers all - you lot are really helping - I will hit the next person that tells me to my face that
a) you can see the pain
b) the colic is due from the lami so his bones are moving
c) that it was obvious from the start it was lami !
 
OMG ((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))

Sounds like it would be a good idea for you to start taking Rescue Remedy (from Boots or any chemist). What a nightmare for you.

Shy had a very slight lami scare last year, and I know I what I went through then.

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Take no notice of the "know it all " you have enough on your plate. When my horse had lami my so called friend said it was down to my bad management. Her daugters pony had an attack the following but I refrained from commenting, some people just don't know when to shut up. Once again good luck with your big lad. X
 
Still sending vibes and hugs

Our Welsh D had acute lami in all four feet 6 years ago (long story). The vet said she may not make it through the night - I was convinced that she wouldn't make it as well but persevered - two days later she double barrelled the breezeblock wall and took out three blocks (nearly hitting the horse in the next stable). We also had a colic scare, our vet put it down to the abrupt change of diet and medication. It took three weeks for her to recover fully - the vet was amazed at her willpower to survive. Six years later she is out on semi retirement but as fit as a flea and as mareish as ever.

You have done all that you can and more, many would have stopped at the initial diagnosis. You must stop beating yourself up over it.
 
As others have said, stop beating yourself up. You've done right by your lad. Standing up to the professionals is never easy, but you've done it and you are, as your second vet put it, on the track.

By the way, I love the sound of your OH.

More hugs and thoughts hunny.
 
He sounds a lot like my appy. He is a fighter too.
If he doesn't eat the hi/go lite try Allen and page fast fibre ive just had to put the appy on it as he refused to eat his happy hoof ( I know that not overly great either but he would not eat the hi fi lite) and he needs his metformin.
Pm me if you want a fb add and you can see how the appy is going. He was on ten months box rest last year, the last three of them ridden so he was fit to go out onto the grass. He only has a max of 7 hours out now and doesn't go out on frost or snow but still gets ridden on both.

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Also forgot to mention that maybe speak to you vet and farrier about imprint shoes for a while. If he is still in alot of pain nailing heart bars isn't going to help. The imprints are glue on. The appy had them for three showing sessions, just on fronts and they were £140 for two! But helped a lot.

Xxxxx
 
How much more can happen?

Just been back to check on big lad, and still cant get his bute into him, he was really starting to look sore, and dishing his leg out, and refusing to move.

Que - Vet visit - they have come and injected him with bute and acp... (wish they could do the same for me), and have booked us a visit for the morning - re-xray.

Changed his 2kg of hi fi lite to 2kg of hay.... may just change that to 1kg of hi fi lite, until I can do a double check tomorrow - god I am getting paranoid aint i

So were here for another long day.... i am worn out

GW
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Gingerwitch said:
How much more can happen?

Just been back to check on big lad, and still cant get his bute into him, he was really starting to look sore, and dishing his leg out, and refusing to move Would he eat fast fibre?

Que - Vet visit - they have come and injected him with bute and acp... (wish they could do the same for me), and have booked us a visit for the morning - re-xray.could you ask them if its possible for you to inject him with the bute? if he won't eat a feed with it in. bloody horses:mad:

Changed his 2kg of hi fi lite to 2kg of hay.... may just change that to 1kg of hi fi lite, until I can do a double check tomorrow - god I am getting paranoid aint i

So were here for another long day.... i am worn outKnow what you mean, each day was so much hard work with worry and panic over the slightist little thing:o but it is worth it. hang in there

GW
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hugs.
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Will he not let you mix the danilon in some all bran or something into a paste and syrynge it in ? ive got an easy wormer bit i can put in the post first class tommorrow if itll help get his danilon into him by a mixing into a paste, of you wNt it pm me.
 
He was very bright and darn right annoying to hubby early this evening. We are going back about half ten for late night checks and give him his hay for the night.

Todays vet has told me to give him some sedalin... but i really do not want too, but it did seam to make him a lot easier, although he did not have his usual day nap??? - paranoid about this - was he in too much pain to lie down, or is it a good sign?

If we come through this I will sort out how to post a photo.... I have no idea how too and tbh, if i try now i will end up smashing this thing up ! - patience is zero at the mo.

Vet due 1st thing tomorrow and we will have x-rays if vet says yes - more so i can be at ease rather than anything else.

Its the hardest thing I have ever done... and i do not know if i have the strength to get him through this- too many people being hurtful with their comments - but as oh says - this isnt their horse, and mine seams to have a will of iron to be here and he is a darn big horse - so he must want to stay with us

GW
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Hey you, do not give up now. You are a very strong brave lady, who is doing nothing wrong apart from trying to do the best for her horse. We are all behind you and we all know that you will find the strength to carry on. Sod the others, my thoughts continue to be with you at this very hard time x
 
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